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Im also starting to lean town on gonzaw. His fustration seems genuine, and whilst he focused really hard on Toad I feel right now that its highly likely that hes actually correct. Since I find it quite unlikely that he would be attacking Toad all game long if they were scumbuddies, hes confirmed town in my mind if toad flips scum. His posting so far reminds me of aperture too, and I feel that he has been trying to help out and hunt scum, though his posting style sort of needs work >_>.
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The fact of the matter marvel is that I was inactive for the early part of D1. I know I've said this before, but for your benefit I'll repeat it.
My scum read was Hassy. By the time the lynch was being decided, I'd changed my read on Risen. When I was building my Hassy case, I was under the impression that no one was voting for Hassy and that town was consolidating on then lurker Janaan. As my stance on lynching lurkers is known, I gave my scum reads (Hassy and Toad) and voted to consolidate with town. When I realized that there might actually be enough support for a Hassy lynch, I decided to get a counter-wagon going because I felt Hassy was the stronger candidate. When it was clear that the Hassy wagon wasn't going to make it, rather than continue to vote for Hassy (which could have resulted in a no-lynch) I switched back to Janaan...yes, in the name of consolidating my vote with town.
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On April 11 2012 22:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact of the matter marvel is that I was inactive for the early part of D1. I know I've said this before, but for your benefit I'll repeat it.
My scum read was Hassy. By the time the lynch was being decided, I'd changed my read on Risen. When I was building my Hassy case, I was under the impression that no one was voting for Hassy and that town was consolidating on then lurker Janaan. As my stance on lynching lurkers is known, I gave my scum reads (Hassy and Toad) and voted to consolidate with town. When I realized that there might actually be enough support for a Hassy lynch, I decided to get a counter-wagon going because I felt Hassy was the stronger candidate. When it was clear that the Hassy wagon wasn't going to make it, rather than continue to vote for Hassy (which could have resulted in a no-lynch) I switched back to Janaan...yes, in the name of consolidating my vote with town.
Does a town VE not push the Hassybaby lynch himself instead of waiting around to see if there may be support?
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Yea the vote switches, and how he seemed unwilling to put himself in the spotlight pushing lynches was what made me feel that he was posting wierd day 1. I could understand not wanting to start a new wagon 4 hours before the lynch... but I dont like his votes on Tunkeg (for condesation) and Risen (case made no sense to me).
Toad looks a lot scummier in my mind now though, which is why im pushing for his lynch.
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On April 11 2012 22:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 22:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact of the matter marvel is that I was inactive for the early part of D1. I know I've said this before, but for your benefit I'll repeat it.
My scum read was Hassy. By the time the lynch was being decided, I'd changed my read on Risen. When I was building my Hassy case, I was under the impression that no one was voting for Hassy and that town was consolidating on then lurker Janaan. As my stance on lynching lurkers is known, I gave my scum reads (Hassy and Toad) and voted to consolidate with town. When I realized that there might actually be enough support for a Hassy lynch, I decided to get a counter-wagon going because I felt Hassy was the stronger candidate. When it was clear that the Hassy wagon wasn't going to make it, rather than continue to vote for Hassy (which could have resulted in a no-lynch) I switched back to Janaan...yes, in the name of consolidating my vote with town. Does a town VE not push the Hassybaby lynch himself instead of waiting around to see if there may be support?
Not with ~7 hours left in the day, no. Town VE needs help at that point.
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The funny thing is though, VE, your case on Toad
On April 11 2012 22:15 VisceraEyes wrote:The Toadesstern Case Phase 1 summary: Toadesstern exhibits a complete lack of scumhunting until ~16 hours until lynch. Every read he's had he's waffled on up to now. Every one. Wants to avoid "usual D1 stuff" but comments heavily on lynching/shooting lurkers. Phase 2 Preview: Pssst....he didn't "announce" that he would vote Hassy 6 hours earlier, he made a passing statement about Hassy's POTENTIAL scuminess, but waited until Bugs voted to actually vote.
could be applied to you. Scumhunting = pushing for the lynch of a scum (NOT just making a scumread. As you told me during my Newbie game indeed). You also commented on lynching lurkers - you also did so inconsistently.
Phase 2 - the same as you again? The only difference is you'd taken a stronger stance, but his defence for his voting on Hassy could be exactly the same as yours.
Now that I'm talking about this I'm going to have to look hard at Toad's filter, but your case lacks the solidity I would like from a certain lynch.
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There's a serious difference here that you're not factoring in - I was simply not here and posting marvel. I mean, take that for what it's worth, but Toad was here and admittedly reading - but he was NOT scumhunting and NOT forming reads.
I realize I look bad because of my inactivity, but I think you'll find my content since coming back in force more than satisfactory marvel. I'm trying to go above and beyond here, and I think I'm doing a damn fine job.
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I really don't know whether Toad or VE to die today.
I'm gonna re-read filters and the 2 cases, and try to decide. I would like to see how Toad will respond to the case against him, and I would like VE to respond to the case against him directly, instead of making a counter case.
gogogo.
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I did Zealos...I responded to Toad's case in it's entirety. Go read it...it's super serious.
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Toad's case is horrible, if you can come in here and tell me what part of the case you agree with Zealos, I'll have Blazinghand eat his hat!
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I support anything that will lead to Blzinghand eating his hat.
Sorry for going AWOL for the last however long. VE has said a few things that make me think he might be scum, but I really need to go back and reread the thread from where I left off before I'm ready to weigh in on the VE/Toads mess we've got going on here.
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Oh I forgot to mention someone owes us a total of 2 hats now. :D
I'll look through VE's case once its complete... doing schoolwork right now. Still here though, so if you have anything to ask just shoot.
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Also, looks like Artanis rolled scum this game. So sad. This post puts the final nail in his coffin. He returns from lurking to point out that? Seriously?
We can discuss this later. VE v Toads is what we need to figure out first.
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Which raises the question of where Toad is. This is when he's been pretty active since the start oft he game.
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I take it back. Most of the problems I had with what VE said stem from discussions that arise from the case the Toads brought up. Right now, I find Toads a lot scummier than I find VE. Gonzaw's defense of Toads strikes me as fishy, but there's no way I'm going to discuss a Gonzaw lynch right now.
His Phase 1 portion of his eye cancer causing wall of text poast makes me mad. There's no reason for it at all. It doesn't prove his innocence, and it wasn't in response to something that someone else brought up. So why address it at all? I don't see a good reason for it. Reading it was a waste of my time.
Combine that, a couple of the other things he said, and the fact that I thought he was scum way back on Day 1, and you arrive at
##vote toads
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On April 09 2012 04:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 09 2012 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
Toad is looking scummy to me. He says a lot in his few posts without saying anything. I start zoning off halfway through his posts. Has anyone actually read his posts all the way through? He tires to look like he's contributing with his long posts when he's just rambling on and on and on...... Toad is all over the place and doesn't have a focus.
##Vote Toadesstern What's your point on me when you say I'm not having focus? My reasoning on saying WBG is suspicious to me? My post about how I don't want people to troll the first 24 hours like people usually do? I haven't said much so far because I've been told to post less the last couple games from people like WBG and BC so if you'd say I'm looking weird because I'm not my usual spammy self I'd agree to a point as I'm trying to be less spammy but I don't really see your point on me. I just can't see how you could possibly say I'm saying nothing when I'm one of the VERY few people in here who actually talk about scum reads while explaining them and why people are scummy rather than just "yep, think X is scummy". I mean half the thread is talking about wether or not a random lynch is something useful or if Tunkeg is weird for suggesting such a thing. That's all stuff that's incredible easy to do for mafia because that's stuff that people can have different opinions on and you can't be "wrong" on that matter. So again, what's your point on me because imo everything you said about me makes me look townish (obviously I'm trying to look townish because of what you quoted from foolish) while the other stuff we got so far (as mentioned, the tungek stuff / random lynch) should be considered a nullread. Wait, what? Can you explain the bolded bit please? Townies don't "try to look townish"...you're missing the point of what Foolishness said entirely. Townies try and find and destroy scum. In doing so, they "look townish". They don't "try" and look townish so the rest of town can find scum easier - in what way does "trying" to look townish help you find scum? Sure townies try to look townish as in they should give the thread a chance to properly read them. For example Kenpachi is not doing that which is the reason I don't like him. So I am trying to make sure to you that I am actually a townie because that leaves you guys with one less option to lynch into.
Way to fail on that one Toad. VE is right, and *especially* he is right when the game is so early. There is no way you can confirm yourself as town, so trying to make yourself look townish is fruitless, dumb, and scummy. So Toad has kinda backed himself into a hole here, and has to continue on with it
On April 09 2012 04:49 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:38 Katina wrote:On April 09 2012 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
Toad is looking scummy to me. He says a lot in his few posts without saying anything. I start zoning off halfway through his posts. Has anyone actually read his posts all the way through? He tires to look like he's contributing with his long posts when he's just rambling on and on and on...... Toad is all over the place and doesn't have a focus.
##Vote Toadesstern What's your point on me when you say I'm not having focus? My reasoning on saying WBG is suspicious to me? My post about how I don't want people to troll the first 24 hours like people usually do? I haven't said much so far because I've been told to post less the last couple games from people like WBG and BC so if you'd say I'm looking weird because I'm not my usual spammy self I'd agree to a point as I'm trying to be less spammy but I don't really see your point on me. I just can't see how you could possibly say I'm saying nothing when I'm one of the VERY few people in here who actually talk about scum reads while explaining them and why people are scummy rather than just "yep, think X is scummy". I mean half the thread is talking about wether or not a random lynch is something useful or if Tunkeg is weird for suggesting such a thing. That's all stuff that's incredible easy to do for mafia because that's stuff that people can have different opinions on and you can't be "wrong" on that matter. So again, what's your point on me because imo everything you said about me makes me look townish (obviously I'm trying to look townish because of what you quoted from foolish) while the other stuff we got so far (as mentioned, the tungek stuff / random lynch) should be considered a nullread. I'm saying that you are acting like Mafia bcause they don't have a focus, ramble, don't contribute, etc. You try so hard to direct everthing back onto me instead of responding to what I said. You say that you're not being your usual spammy self but I didn't even bring that up as an arguement. You're being dodgy and responding to a arguments against you that weren't even made little frog. Why do you have to act townish? That's a pretty interesting thing to say.... If your town then you shouldn't have to say your acting townish. That sounds Mafiaish. I brought that up because I said I don't understand what you're talking about when imo I'm one of the guy who IS actually taking stances in this thread which I consider to be focussed while the other stuff we got so far (stuff mafia can easily talk about) may appear focussed but actually isn't useful to find mafia at all because again: Those are topics you can have different opinions on very easily. So again, I don't understand what you are talking about when you say I am not focused because I think I am. That's why I brought up my not so spammish self because that COULD be a reason for people to think I'm weird although it really shouldn't be so I figured that's maybe what you're really referring to. I am not acting townish, I am trying to make sure to you guys I am a townie.
#1 priority: Make sure everyone knows you are town
#2 priority: Find and lynch mafia yourself#1 helps everyone in this game figure out mafia because there's less people to consider, #2 is nice once you've got #1 covered. If you got #2 covered you only need to start convincing people :p I never said I'm acting townish which is a completly different thing.
No. #1 priority: find and lynch scum. Possible nice side-effect of #1: you look town to people.
People with more knowledge of toad's meta than me: does a town Toad normally try to look so townish?
On April 10 2012 21:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Sup guys. lynch Hassy tomorrow, lynch VE the day after that and we win.
I read this, did a double-take, and had to then go backwards in his filter again to have another look. From where the sudden certainty on VE?! All toad posted previously on the VE matter is this:
On April 10 2012 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
VE looks really weird. I don't think his play is off. However I had the same feeling about him in C9++ where I said that I'd probably instalynch VE as a townie based on the fact that he changed his style so weirdly in that game. So it's the same as Tunkeg: I'm getting a weird feeling and I'm not sure if I like that or not. I'd like to give him more time as well as I think I'm pretty decent in figuring out VE. I called him mafia in Storm (SK), I called him mafia in AC (mafia) and I called him a liar who's fakeclaiming on purpose in L which made me think he'd be a mafia in that game. The liar who fakeclaimed was right but the mafia read was wrong. So again, I'd like to see some more from VE to properly understand what I'm seeing from him this game.
VE looks weird? a weird feeling? and he's not sure yet. He seems to have leapt from this to WE SHOULD LYNCH VE. Ok, that's fine - let's continue down your post (beyond the pointless waffling about previous games) to see why should we lynch VE. Let's have a look at the damning evidence he has lined up against VE:
On April 10 2012 21:59 Toadesstern wrote:
(pretty sure VE is a mafia who's being stupid on purpose though)
However I don't like VE requesting medic protection for him and wbg only
... wow. Mindblowing case. But at least we know it's Hassy and VE he's after, don't we? Wrong.
On April 11 2012 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 02:34 gonzaw wrote:
Thank you Toad for another pointless post from you.
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Yes you are tunneling me, even if you "think" I'm town. The only focus of your posts is trying discredit me, arguing with me and saying how I'm an idiot. You can't possibly say that's untrue, that last post of yours is proof of that.
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I'm not tunneling you, or if I am I try not to. I'm giving you plenty of opportunities to redeem yourself by asking for your reads and thoughts of the game so far, which you clearly refuse to do and instead try to discredit me more.
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P.S: I can't possibly believe anyone will think those things I pointed out are town traits. Filler and fluff-filled posts that say nothing, not contributing at all, not giving reads when asked, not commenting on what's happening in the thread, being too verbose and making heavy posts that ultimately say nothing are the opposite of town traits.
@Katina: Please post your thoughts on the events of the last day.
What do you think of ST? What do you think about the Hassy wagon that formed 5 hours before the day ended? What do you think about the people involved in them, or about the people that opposed it and decided to keep their vote on Janaan? Ok screw this, you die tomorrow. Seriously. I am going through this one by one. 1) Thanks for repeating what I just said. It's night. I'm not going to make big cases at night and tell everyone what I said. You're basicly asking me to help mafia here. 2) That's a lie. There's not a single question I did not answer. Show me a question from ANYONE (not even only you) in this thread I did not answer. I told you about my reads, you even agreed that I did that yesterday and said something along the lines "well yes you did, but I shouldn't have to ask you, you should be telling me your reads without me having you to ask you" which is obviously again asking me to help mafia. 3) You haven't pointed out a SINGLE THING until now. You keep on saying I am wishy washy and not taking stances. I know I am posting walls of text a lot but I AM taking stances. I said what I think about tunkeg, I said what I think about Janaan, I said what I think about Ghost & Hassy, I said what I think about WBG, I said what I think about Kenpachi, I said what I think about VE. How am I not giving reads? And again, everything else is what I do all the time although I don't think I'm not contributing. People actually already said stuff along the lines "yes Toad posts wall of text but he is contributing and although it's a little heavy on text you can see what he's trying to say". So no that's just not true. Not to begin with the fact that you keep on saying my style is completly different from my other games yet you haven't shown a single example of something like that, but keep on saying so while complaining I haven't shown that my style actually is the same as one of the games. Newsflash, even if my style is completly different (which a lot of people already said is bullshit) compare L with Storm, or AC with Storm, or L with AC. Is my style exactle the same all the time? Hell most people called me out in Storm because my style was so different that game d1. What was my alignment in all those 3 games?!?!? Right town. There's simply no way you're that wrong. I'm getting you lynched tomorrow.
What a massive OMGUS. "Forget my other lynches guys, I don't like gonzaw's argument so he is now #1 LYNCH." What really?
Finally comes the massive gonzaw/VE post. Massive WIFOM on the nightkills, and continuing OMGUS on gonzaw. Perhaps more noticeably, he talks about himself an awful lot. The best way of clearing yourself as town is to hunt scum, yet the massive scumhunting post was actually very little of the sort.
This is the first time I read Toad's filter in its entirety, and I am surprised. He is coming across as pretty scummy and I'm pretty happy right now for him to be today's lynch.
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Also, holy crap has johnny been lurking.
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Here is the scumteam and how they play the game now:
Viscera "Oh I am fucked anyways time to make some accusations on my scummate BH" Eyes
Adam "I will stab VE in the back and accuse BH for town cred" 4167
Ka " I love VE so much, don't kill him" tina
Blazing "I don't give a fuck about what you geezers are doing" Hand.
I am totally in Toads corner on this one. I am as certain as I have ever been i na mafia game --> VE is scum. Toad is bad at finding scum, I am bad at finding scum, but when we team up we are a beast. In Arkham City we hit scum everyday together. You can say we are T and T = TNT.
+ Show Spoiler +
My post on why VE is scum comming up!
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I'm not sure I completely like VE's case against Toad, and as it stands, I am still supporting Toad in this case.
Also, marvel:
On April 11 2012 23:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:02 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 09 2012 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
Toad is looking scummy to me. He says a lot in his few posts without saying anything. I start zoning off halfway through his posts. Has anyone actually read his posts all the way through? He tires to look like he's contributing with his long posts when he's just rambling on and on and on...... Toad is all over the place and doesn't have a focus.
##Vote Toadesstern What's your point on me when you say I'm not having focus? My reasoning on saying WBG is suspicious to me? My post about how I don't want people to troll the first 24 hours like people usually do? I haven't said much so far because I've been told to post less the last couple games from people like WBG and BC so if you'd say I'm looking weird because I'm not my usual spammy self I'd agree to a point as I'm trying to be less spammy but I don't really see your point on me. I just can't see how you could possibly say I'm saying nothing when I'm one of the VERY few people in here who actually talk about scum reads while explaining them and why people are scummy rather than just "yep, think X is scummy". I mean half the thread is talking about wether or not a random lynch is something useful or if Tunkeg is weird for suggesting such a thing. That's all stuff that's incredible easy to do for mafia because that's stuff that people can have different opinions on and you can't be "wrong" on that matter. So again, what's your point on me because imo everything you said about me makes me look townish (obviously I'm trying to look townish because of what you quoted from foolish) while the other stuff we got so far (as mentioned, the tungek stuff / random lynch) should be considered a nullread. Wait, what? Can you explain the bolded bit please? Townies don't "try to look townish"...you're missing the point of what Foolishness said entirely. Townies try and find and destroy scum. In doing so, they "look townish". They don't "try" and look townish so the rest of town can find scum easier - in what way does "trying" to look townish help you find scum? Sure townies try to look townish as in they should give the thread a chance to properly read them. For example Kenpachi is not doing that which is the reason I don't like him. So I am trying to make sure to you that I am actually a townie because that leaves you guys with one less option to lynch into. Way to fail on that one Toad. VE is right, and *especially* he is right when the game is so early. There is no way you can confirm yourself as town, so trying to make yourself look townish is fruitless, dumb, and scummy. So Toad has kinda backed himself into a hole here, and has to continue on with itShow nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:49 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 04:38 Katina wrote:On April 09 2012 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:On April 09 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
Toad is looking scummy to me. He says a lot in his few posts without saying anything. I start zoning off halfway through his posts. Has anyone actually read his posts all the way through? He tires to look like he's contributing with his long posts when he's just rambling on and on and on...... Toad is all over the place and doesn't have a focus.
##Vote Toadesstern What's your point on me when you say I'm not having focus? My reasoning on saying WBG is suspicious to me? My post about how I don't want people to troll the first 24 hours like people usually do? I haven't said much so far because I've been told to post less the last couple games from people like WBG and BC so if you'd say I'm looking weird because I'm not my usual spammy self I'd agree to a point as I'm trying to be less spammy but I don't really see your point on me. I just can't see how you could possibly say I'm saying nothing when I'm one of the VERY few people in here who actually talk about scum reads while explaining them and why people are scummy rather than just "yep, think X is scummy". I mean half the thread is talking about wether or not a random lynch is something useful or if Tunkeg is weird for suggesting such a thing. That's all stuff that's incredible easy to do for mafia because that's stuff that people can have different opinions on and you can't be "wrong" on that matter. So again, what's your point on me because imo everything you said about me makes me look townish (obviously I'm trying to look townish because of what you quoted from foolish) while the other stuff we got so far (as mentioned, the tungek stuff / random lynch) should be considered a nullread. I'm saying that you are acting like Mafia bcause they don't have a focus, ramble, don't contribute, etc. You try so hard to direct everthing back onto me instead of responding to what I said. You say that you're not being your usual spammy self but I didn't even bring that up as an arguement. You're being dodgy and responding to a arguments against you that weren't even made little frog. Why do you have to act townish? That's a pretty interesting thing to say.... If your town then you shouldn't have to say your acting townish. That sounds Mafiaish. I brought that up because I said I don't understand what you're talking about when imo I'm one of the guy who IS actually taking stances in this thread which I consider to be focussed while the other stuff we got so far (stuff mafia can easily talk about) may appear focussed but actually isn't useful to find mafia at all because again: Those are topics you can have different opinions on very easily. So again, I don't understand what you are talking about when you say I am not focused because I think I am. That's why I brought up my not so spammish self because that COULD be a reason for people to think I'm weird although it really shouldn't be so I figured that's maybe what you're really referring to. I am not acting townish, I am trying to make sure to you guys I am a townie.
#1 priority: Make sure everyone knows you are town
#2 priority: Find and lynch mafia yourself#1 helps everyone in this game figure out mafia because there's less people to consider, #2 is nice once you've got #1 covered. If you got #2 covered you only need to start convincing people :p I never said I'm acting townish which is a completly different thing. No. #1 priority: find and lynch scum. Possible nice side-effect of #1: you look town to people. People with more knowledge of toad's meta than me: does a town Toad normally try to look so townish?Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 21:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Sup guys. lynch Hassy tomorrow, lynch VE the day after that and we win.
I read this, did a double-take, and had to then go backwards in his filter again to have another look. From where the sudden certainty on VE?! All toad posted previously on the VE matter is this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
VE looks really weird. I don't think his play is off. However I had the same feeling about him in C9++ where I said that I'd probably instalynch VE as a townie based on the fact that he changed his style so weirdly in that game. So it's the same as Tunkeg: I'm getting a weird feeling and I'm not sure if I like that or not. I'd like to give him more time as well as I think I'm pretty decent in figuring out VE. I called him mafia in Storm (SK), I called him mafia in AC (mafia) and I called him a liar who's fakeclaiming on purpose in L which made me think he'd be a mafia in that game. The liar who fakeclaimed was right but the mafia read was wrong. So again, I'd like to see some more from VE to properly understand what I'm seeing from him this game.
VE looks weird? a weird feeling? and he's not sure yet. He seems to have leapt from this to WE SHOULD LYNCH VE. Ok, that's fine - let's continue down your post (beyond the pointless waffling about previous games) to see why should we lynch VE. Let's have a look at the damning evidence he has lined up against VE: Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 21:59 Toadesstern wrote:
(pretty sure VE is a mafia who's being stupid on purpose though)
However I don't like VE requesting medic protection for him and wbg only ... wow. Mindblowing case. But at least we know it's Hassy and VE he's after, don't we? Wrong. Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:On April 11 2012 02:34 gonzaw wrote:
Thank you Toad for another pointless post from you.
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Yes you are tunneling me, even if you "think" I'm town. The only focus of your posts is trying discredit me, arguing with me and saying how I'm an idiot. You can't possibly say that's untrue, that last post of yours is proof of that.
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I'm not tunneling you, or if I am I try not to. I'm giving you plenty of opportunities to redeem yourself by asking for your reads and thoughts of the game so far, which you clearly refuse to do and instead try to discredit me more.
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P.S: I can't possibly believe anyone will think those things I pointed out are town traits. Filler and fluff-filled posts that say nothing, not contributing at all, not giving reads when asked, not commenting on what's happening in the thread, being too verbose and making heavy posts that ultimately say nothing are the opposite of town traits.
@Katina: Please post your thoughts on the events of the last day.
What do you think of ST? What do you think about the Hassy wagon that formed 5 hours before the day ended? What do you think about the people involved in them, or about the people that opposed it and decided to keep their vote on Janaan? Ok screw this, you die tomorrow. Seriously. I am going through this one by one. 1) Thanks for repeating what I just said. It's night. I'm not going to make big cases at night and tell everyone what I said. You're basicly asking me to help mafia here. 2) That's a lie. There's not a single question I did not answer. Show me a question from ANYONE (not even only you) in this thread I did not answer. I told you about my reads, you even agreed that I did that yesterday and said something along the lines "well yes you did, but I shouldn't have to ask you, you should be telling me your reads without me having you to ask you" which is obviously again asking me to help mafia. 3) You haven't pointed out a SINGLE THING until now. You keep on saying I am wishy washy and not taking stances. I know I am posting walls of text a lot but I AM taking stances. I said what I think about tunkeg, I said what I think about Janaan, I said what I think about Ghost & Hassy, I said what I think about WBG, I said what I think about Kenpachi, I said what I think about VE. How am I not giving reads? And again, everything else is what I do all the time although I don't think I'm not contributing. People actually already said stuff along the lines "yes Toad posts wall of text but he is contributing and although it's a little heavy on text you can see what he's trying to say". So no that's just not true. Not to begin with the fact that you keep on saying my style is completly different from my other games yet you haven't shown a single example of something like that, but keep on saying so while complaining I haven't shown that my style actually is the same as one of the games. Newsflash, even if my style is completly different (which a lot of people already said is bullshit) compare L with Storm, or AC with Storm, or L with AC. Is my style exactle the same all the time? Hell most people called me out in Storm because my style was so different that game d1. What was my alignment in all those 3 games?!?!? Right town. There's simply no way you're that wrong. I'm getting you lynched tomorrow. What a massive OMGUS. "Forget my other lynches guys, I don't like gonzaw's argument so he is now #1 LYNCH." What really? Finally comes the massive gonzaw/VE post. Massive WIFOM on the nightkills, and continuing OMGUS on gonzaw. Perhaps more noticeably, he talks about himself an awful lot. The best way of clearing yourself as town is to hunt scum, yet the massive scumhunting post was actually very little of the sort. This is the first time I read Toad's filter in its entirety, and I am surprised. He is coming across as pretty scummy and I'm pretty happy right now for him to be today's lynch.
We've seen a ton of people do that, over-analyzing imo
The rest of your case is pretty damn awful. He doesn't say anything about VE, then suddenly he makes a very strong case!! He must be scum!! I just don't understand some players. People who don't take strong opinions = Scum
People who take strong opinions = scum?!
What is the meaning of it all? Why do people seem to think that anyone who tries to push their agenda must be scum? He's completely honest about what he thinks will help town most, and that is a VE lynch.
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On April 11 2012 23:37 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, holy crap has johnny been lurking.
But you don't mention BH, Grackaroni and Katina? And your just barely getting out lurking yourself Mr. Ghost.
On April 11 2012 23:40 Tunkeg wrote:
Viscera "Oh I am fucked anyways time to make some accusations on my scummate BH" Eyes
Wat, have you been following the thread recently?
Also I have been reading thread but pretty busy at work will try to take a stab at things within the next 4-5 hours.
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