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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
April 11 2012 00:23 GMT
#681
gg guys
Solohan50
Profile Joined March 2012
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 00:38:33
April 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#682
We all made silly mistakes, though some (me) made more than others. It was definitely a good learning experience though; I took away a lot of good information. I think my biggest fault was talking Hiro into killing FourFace on Night 1 though, followed by my Night post on Night 1. We had initially been aiming for Kharad until Kohbee's roleclaim, and I thought killing FourFace would be useful to frame Kohbee. I think if we'd left FourFace in the game and killed Kharad on Night 1, things would've gone much better for Mafia. Right before killing FourFace, my Night post pretty much gave me away, which didn't leave much for me except to kill Kohbee and then have Hiro bus the shit out of me. Good game though, and hopefully next time I can play a little better.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 11 2012 00:38 GMT
#683
On April 11 2012 09:25 Solohan50 wrote:
We all made silly mistakes, though some (me) made more than others. It was definitely a good learning experience though; I took away a lot of good information. I think my biggest fault was talking Hiro into killing FourFace on Night 1 though, followed by my Night post on Night 1. We had initially been aiming for Kharad until Kohbee's roleclaim, and I thought killing FourFace would be useful to frame Kohbee. I think if we'd left FourFace in the game and killed Kharad on Night 1, things would've gone much better for Mafia. After killing FourFace, my Night post pretty much gave me away, which didn't leave much for me except to kill Kohbee and then have Hiro bus the shit out of me. Good game though, and hopefully next time I can play a little better.


gg mate. Maybe you underestimated how suspicious Kohbee looked for his claim anyway, you probably didn't need to add fuel to the fire.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Solohan50
Profile Joined March 2012
37 Posts
April 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#684
On April 11 2012 09:38 marvellosity wrote:

gg mate. Maybe you underestimated how suspicious Kohbee looked for his claim anyway, you probably didn't need to add fuel to the fire.


I tunneled onto him because of the roleclaim. I overestimated his importance, especially when I could just roleblock him endlessly.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 11 2012 00:48 GMT
#685
Can I just give props to therapist for a moment... from the obs QT -

Therapist.
04-04-2012
09:48 PM ET (US)
Solohan and Hiropro are scum. Guarunteed.

That was a week ago!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 00:57 GMT
#686
On April 11 2012 09:48 marvellosity wrote:
Can I just give props to therapist for a moment... from the obs QT -

Therapist.
04-04-2012
09:48 PM ET (US)
Solohan and Hiropro are scum. Guarunteed.

That was a week ago!


Yeah pretty impressive.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 11 2012 01:10 GMT
#687
Town won a newbie game.

WAT.

Im impressed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 11 2012 01:15 GMT
#688
solohan is his friend irl remember. I doubt that is a completely self-created prediction.

I find it really really really fucking ironic that you guys ending by lynching the guy you got me lynched over.

I want to know strong, why did you think that hiropro was scum? In all honesty I think town won on a lucky guess by you and marvel because there was no logical reasoning for anything the 2 of you did.

I'll post a big post with thoughts at the end of the game.

Preview: KB and hiropro rule, everyone else sucks
Solohan50
Profile Joined March 2012
37 Posts
April 11 2012 01:19 GMT
#689
On April 11 2012 10:15 Kohbee wrote:
solohan is his friend irl remember. I doubt that is a completely self-created prediction.

I find it really really really fucking ironic that you guys ending by lynching the guy you got me lynched over.

I want to know strong, why did you think that hiropro was scum? In all honesty I think town won on a lucky guess by you and marvel because there was no logical reasoning for anything the 2 of you did.

I'll post a big post with thoughts at the end of the game.

Preview: KB and hiropro rule, everyone else sucks


I read this and I have to agree with you Kohbee....how on Earth could you ever get mislynched?
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 11 2012 01:22 GMT
#690
No, it was not a lucky guess at all. Everything marvel WIFOMed on the last day was correct and strongandbig was correct to follow it. If he were mafia, marvellosity would have absolutely no inclination whatsoever to kill muffins because a scenario where you can WIFOM with it is still much much worse than an almost guaranteed win (by killing strongandbig and letting HiroPro and omnomMuffins duke it out).
marvellosity correctly realised this and beat strongandbig over the head with this argument repeatedly because it was the only viable reasoning he had to paint himself as town. But hey, whatever works, right?
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 11 2012 01:23 GMT
#691
EBWOP, the above is obviously directed at Kohbee and his Lucky Guess explanation
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 01:28 GMT
#692
On April 11 2012 10:15 Kohbee wrote:
solohan is his friend irl remember. I doubt that is a completely self-created prediction.

I find it really really really fucking ironic that you guys ending by lynching the guy you got me lynched over.

I want to know strong, why did you think that hiropro was scum? In all honesty I think town won on a lucky guess by you and marvel because there was no logical reasoning for anything the 2 of you did.

I'll post a big post with thoughts at the end of the game.

Preview: KB and hiropro rule, everyone else sucks


We'll have to agree to disagree.

I still think your play made no sense either.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 11 2012 01:28 GMT
#693
Anyone saying marvel "wifomed his way to victory" is right and wrong - town should always be interested in finding the reasons why things happen. While it's true that town can't KNOW FOR CERTAIN why scum did certain things, there are others that scum MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT DO OR SAY based on logic and knowing their win-condition.

I think marvel did a great job in nailing the last scum and was a big part of town pulling it together at the end. Well played guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:31:27
April 11 2012 01:30 GMT
#694
Edit: Ninjad by VE
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 11 2012 01:32 GMT
#695
if you continue that logic you will lose a lot of mafia games. There was no reason of why strong was town or why hiro was scum. His WIFOM explaination should have only made sense to himself because he knew he was town (strong did not know this).

The fact that he knew that killing muffins would paint him town is your answer to why his argument is not logically sound at all. It is meaningless WIFOM

Couple this with the fact that there was literally no actual case made against Hiropro and that there was never any reason stated for why strong was town other then further WIFOM of night kills and you come to my conclusion that town won solely on a pair of lucky guesses.
Solohan50
Profile Joined March 2012
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:33:33
April 11 2012 01:32 GMT
#696
Meh, nm.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:37:33
April 11 2012 01:36 GMT
#697
Kohbee doesn't know what he's talking about, and here's some proof.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 11 2012 01:38 GMT
#698
There WAS a case on Hiro and it was strong. Hiro's response was pisspoor, but due to circumstances was enough to shed suspicion on him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
April 11 2012 01:38 GMT
#699
What I don't understand is how an omnommuffins shot was good for any scum. Spent all day 2 tunnelling Kohbee with poor reasoning, then was last on the Solohan lynch? Looked like a pretty easy mislynch to me.

Following the nightkill reasoning was acceptable there IMO. Consider that if Marvellosity is scum, he's actually planned to make himself the obvious target and then win the game with nightkill reasoning. You can yell WIFOM all you like, but that's just insanity. Marvellosity didn't show any signs of insanity.

KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 11 2012 01:41 GMT
#700
On April 11 2012 10:32 Kohbee wrote:
The fact that he knew that killing muffins would paint him town is your answer to why his argument is not logically sound at all. It is meaningless WIFOM

But painting himself town after killing omnomMuffins is much harder to do than simply offing strongandbig and watching the other two accuse each other (I guarantee you that would have happened). That's my whole point.

It's much easier in the position of scum!marvellosity to simply kill strongandbig than to even begin to consider a WIFOM case which might or might not work depending on strongandbig's though process.

But I don't want to waste time here. As another wise man once said:
On March 17 2012 11:09/March 22 2012 09:11 Grackaroni wrote:
We're done here.

(I apologise in advance for the bad and obscure reference, but I had to)
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