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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 30 2012 22:31 FourFace wrote: AHA! .. complimenting in order to gain sympathy. Obvious scumslip. I got you know! Aha! 'know' instead of 'now'. How can you 'know' unless you're scum? Eh?! | ||
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FourFace
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 30 2012 22:39 FourFace wrote: I don't know, lynch me! Gladly :D | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
I am going to play for fun, I don't care about learning the game or playing "badly". This doesn't imply I haven't read the rules, OP, guides, past games, player meta; or that I won't read the whole thread if it gets larger than 15 pages. Because I have and I will, and I'm counting on everyone to do likewise. I am never going to insult you personally but I will most certainly tell you to your face if your posting style seems inefficient, total bullshit to me regardless of whether I think you're scum or not so I'm probably going to insult your role and style of play .. a lot, during this game. I can handle any sort of critique to my virtual online persona so I expect a little indifference from you too. I won't call your mom a whore or anything like that but even If I would, would you care? I'd be just another troll on the internets without any knowledge of your personal business, forget about it. Once the game starts if you plan on condescending people by giving them newbie advice, and reciting principles on how to play and what they should look for, talk excessively about the concept of lurking and lynching lurkers and generally calling people noobish or crazy .. you are going to make this game less fun for me not to mention you'd just repeat what thousands have said before. Which means I'm going to have to compensate by writing crazy fluff, that you might not be interested in reading, just to mimic your lack of efficiency and usefulness to town. So if you're town don't do that. If you're scum, don't do it either because I'll quite possibly vote to lynch you for it in the absence of more concrete scumreads. That's all I want to say .. my motivation, my self-imposed boundaries and what pisses me off the most. Oh and GL HF GG everyone | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On March 30 2012 20:45 marvellosity wrote: Did you decide whether you were going to expand the game by 2-4 players? I think I will keep it as a 9 player game, but am currently trying to round up a second host to run a game alongside. If I can't find someone I will run a second game myself. At the latest that game will go up on Sunday. On March 30 2012 10:36 HiroPro wrote: Does mafia have to attempt a kill at night? No, Mafia do not have to kill at night. They may choose to withhold their kill instead. | ||
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FourFace
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:14 FourFace wrote: BTW I want to make a couple of statements before we start in order for what I say to be irrelevant for your scumsearch later on. I am going to play for fun, I don't care about learning the game or playing "badly". This doesn't imply I haven't read the rules, OP, guides, past games, player meta; or that I won't read the whole thread if it gets larger than 15 pages. Because I have and I will, and I'm counting on everyone to do likewise. I am never going to insult you personally but I will most certainly tell you to your face if your posting style seems inefficient, total bullshit to me regardless of whether I think you're scum or not so I'm probably going to insult your role and style of play .. a lot, during this game. I can handle any sort of critique to my virtual online persona so I expect a little indifference from you too. I won't call your mom a whore or anything like that but even If I would, would you care? I'd be just another troll on the internets without any knowledge of your personal business, forget about it. Once the game starts if you plan on condescending people by giving them newbie advice, and reciting principles on how to play and what they should look for, talk excessively about the concept of lurking and lynching lurkers and generally calling people noobish or crazy .. you are going to make this game less fun for me not to mention you'd just repeat what thousands have said before. Which means I'm going to have to compensate by writing crazy fluff, that you might not be interested in reading, just to mimic your lack of efficiency and usefulness to town. So if you're town don't do that. If you're scum, don't do it either because I'll quite possibly vote to lynch you for it in the absence of more concrete scumreads. That's all I want to say .. my motivation, my self-imposed boundaries and what pisses me off the most. Oh and GL HF GG everyone Can't wait to rub you up the wrong way, buddy  | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:18 FourFace wrote: why would they do that lol In this setup? A: Withhold your kill, claim you took a hit, ride your confirmed town status to victory. B: Withhold your kill, Jailkeeper is convinced he found the scum, force a mislynch, a roleclaim and a wasted day. Both are interesting gambits, and there may be a couple other situational reasons as well. | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:25 Radfield wrote: In this setup? A: Withhold your kill, claim you took a hit, ride your confirmed town status to victory. B: Withhold your kill, Jailkeeper is convinced he found the scum, force a mislynch, a roleclaim and a wasted day. Both are interesting gambits, and there may be a couple other situational reasons as well. The second one seems legit, i like it. I don't understand the first one though.. how do you claim to have taken a hit .. nobody gets notified about medic saves or jailkeeper action so how can you claim to be sure you survived a hit | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:31 FourFace wrote: The second one seems legit, i like it. I don't understand the first one though.. how do you claim to have taken a hit .. nobody gets notified about medic saves or jailkeeper action so how can you claim to be sure you survived a hit You're right! It makes no sense! You passed the test! ..... | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:34 Radfield wrote: You're right! It makes no sense! You passed the test! ..... Holy shit Radfield scumslip | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I get that alot  | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
On March 30 2012 23:14 FourFace wrote: BTW I want to make a couple of statements before we start in order for what I say to be irrelevant for your scumsearch later on. I am going to play for fun, I don't care about learning the game or playing "badly". This doesn't imply I haven't read the rules, OP, guides, past games, player meta; or that I won't read the whole thread if it gets larger than 15 pages. Because I have and I will, and I'm counting on everyone to do likewise. I am never going to insult you personally but I will most certainly tell you to your face if your posting style seems inefficient, total bullshit to me regardless of whether I think you're scum or not so I'm probably going to insult your role and style of play .. a lot, during this game. I can handle any sort of critique to my virtual online persona so I expect a little indifference from you too. I won't call your mom a whore or anything like that but even If I would, would you care? I'd be just another troll on the internets without any knowledge of your personal business, forget about it. Once the game starts if you plan on condescending people by giving them newbie advice, and reciting principles on how to play and what they should look for, talk excessively about the concept of lurking and lynching lurkers and generally calling people noobish or crazy .. you are going to make this game less fun for me not to mention you'd just repeat what thousands have said before. Which means I'm going to have to compensate by writing crazy fluff, that you might not be interested in reading, just to mimic your lack of efficiency and usefulness to town. So if you're town don't do that. If you're scum, don't do it either because I'll quite possibly vote to lynch you for it in the absence of more concrete scumreads. That's all I want to say .. my motivation, my self-imposed boundaries and what pisses me off the most. Oh and GL HF GG everyone I would like to say pre-game that I disagree with your stance on newbie advice, principles and lurking. This is a newbie game and these discussions often can help start talks to begin in the begining of a game. This will encourage more people to talk and thus give us more to read into. Also, lurking is an extremely viable strategy for scum to use. If we ignore discussions of this then we are doing ourselves a disservice. You can't just start off a game with nothing expecting people to have scum reads, thats just not possible. If you can figure out a way to rid the town of these behaviors by starting a different topic leading to meaningful conversation I am all for it. I agree that meta is probably a terrible idea in newbie games. | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
I would like to try something out, yes. Have people compete in writing like they are having fun, just a regular group chat among TL-ers. Joke, make references to starcraft, memes, word play. My theory is that he who lacks the ability to convince the others that he's having fun will most likely be scum. Why? Because lurking is no fun.. and like you said, mafia don't have any problem with playing like that, town does. Mafia want the game to be boring and unreadable, town doesn't. Yes it's rather unconventional and not in the guides yet but let's do try it. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
It is good for them when the thread is like this, but I believe the goal for mafia is a broader one: To make the posts with actual reads or cases less visible. This can be accomplished through simply boring town out of reading the thread, but it can also be through lowering the overall signal-to-noise ratio. If one serious post of a competent player making a case is buried under ten posts of "jokes, references to StarCraft, memes and word play", fewer people will pay attention to it than in an overall serious discussion. This does NOT mean that you should lurk until you have gathered enough evidence to accuse someone of being scum, because that is not something we want on Day 1. However, it means that after the early game when there is enough material in the thread to seriously analyse, off-topic discussion, joking and the like helps scum rather than it hurts them. So by all means, post away on Day 1, but let's get more into "real" game play after that. | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
On March 31 2012 01:18 KharadBanar wrote: So by all means, post away on Day 1, but let's get more into "real" game play after that. I can agree to that. | ||
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