Also, while I still don't like blubb's posting, he was one of the first (the first, in fact) people to vote for Bluelightz today. While I still have suspicions of him, I'm willing to let him slide.

In contrast, sinani hasn't really contributed any content yet, and really didn't "pressure" me at all when he accepted that I said I was town at face value (day 1). Frankly I think he was trying to sneak by and make it look like he was contributing; I certainly wouldn't back off as quickly if I was really trying to pressure someone. I find this unimpressive and honestly, it looks like scum trying to pull a fast one.

##Vote: sinani206

Velinath

United States694 Posts

March 22 2012 23:33 GMT

#1562

ebwop waiting to put vote in until the voting annex has been updated to reflect that it is now day 3

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

March 22 2012 23:37 GMT

#1563

If there is still the chance that Jayjay's timing is off, and sinani is still going to die, I would hesitate to waste a lynch on him.

Velinath

United States694 Posts

March 22 2012 23:40 GMT

#1564

Well, since it's only 40 minutes into the day, there's plenty of time to get that info; for now he seems the most scummy player who is currently alive, and therefore a reasonable vote until we know more/have more analysis

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 23 2012 00:04 GMT

#1565

On March 23 2012 08:07 zelblade wrote:
Kitaman27 visited gonzaw night 1. Lord of the rift?

No I'm not Lord of the Rift

Are you claiming to have watched gonzaw on night one, but waited to claim until day three?

zelblade

Australia901 Posts

March 23 2012 00:12 GMT

#1566

Nope I have delayed results and I didn't watch gonzaw, I tracked you.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 23 2012 00:14 GMT

#1567

mmk, well I'm not LotR.

I'll explain why I was visiting gonzaw if its absolutely necessary, but I don't feel a role claim would help at the moment.

jayjay, could you explain why sinani was supposed to die?

Hassybaby

United Kingdom10823 Posts

March 23 2012 00:16 GMT

#1568

I'm willing to trust jayjay about the slow shot. Still not sure how Sbrubbles is still alive though. I maintain that he's a viable lynch target

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 23 2012 00:18 GMT

#1569

Confirming item. Be back in a bit.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 23 2012 00:19 GMT

#1570

First stop: My Vig shot
Ok here’s what happened. My role PM basically says I can send a shot in the future at any time and that the shot will connect the “next night (with the daypost)”. I used my ability night one and was under the impression that the daypost was used as an orientation and the shot would hit with the one. So I claimed my shot when Sinani was still alive. iGrok sent me PM then that my shot would connect next night and the daypost here doesn’t matter. This was not entirely my fault, the role PM doesn’t really make that clear…

I was like “great”. I had already announced that Sinani has been saved and couldn’t get my ability back. I knew that Sinani could be easily saved if he knew, when the bullet would came, which is why I tried to create a mystery when it would hit, but I guess that didn’t work out.

There’s also the small possibility that the mods forgot about my ability…I PMed them, but I don’t think that’s likely.

Sorry how this worked out, like I said, I misunderstood my PM and it could be read in two different ways. So Sinani what’s it gonna be? Saved? Denial of hit? Vig? BP?

For those of you, who don't believe that story: Why would I make so much stuff up to delay his lynch for one day? Yea, it doesn't make sense.

_________________________________________________________

Second stop: My interaction with dirk

Dirk doesn’t give a freaking shit about this game, right now he has no use. I’ll just say what I know and you’ll understand more.

Dirk is a mason. I was invited for telepathic testing D2. Masoning is a town role to me normally. However, I was advised in the PM to use an alias and that scum and thirds may have those abilities too. If dirk was cell, he’d probably try to invite his cell buddies and wouldn’t have invited me. I rule that out myself. Can't be sure for third and scum though.

So how do I know it is actually dirk? I don’t, but I am almost sure, since the exact foolishness case was posted by him in the QT before it was in the thread.

D1 invite was blazinghand. They talked a bunch, but nothing to exciting.. Dirk won’t talk to me for some reason, though.

The mason circle persists even when dirk is dead, which is why I didn’t want to kill him yesterday, I hope I get another player to play with in that QT. This will almost certainly help town. If he does invite someone, I will NOT say who is in there for obvious reasons.

What I find interesting is that the burned to death flavor might be some sort of lurker bane and dirk didn’t post all night. Hmm, maybe overall posts are too many…

______________________________________________________

Veli: I can’t believe that Ghost is your biggest Town read. What for? It’s hard to see him as town overall, but your strongest town read? Come on! Trying to figure out why you did that.

______________________________________________________

Random thought: Why is Grack marked green and the others blue, if he has an ability too?

______________________________________________________

Kita, so did you visit gonzaw that night? Or what?

It's late, so don't blame me for text errors.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 23 2012 00:22 GMT

#1571

On March 23 2012 09:12 zelblade wrote:
Nope I have delayed results and I didn't watch gonzaw, I tracked you.

If you're a town tracker, why are you role claiming to out a player who you suspect isn't even scum?

GreYMisT

United States6736 Posts

March 23 2012 00:24 GMT

#1572

The Dark Magician Has been Summoned!

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

March 23 2012 00:24 GMT

#1573

Velinath

United States694 Posts

March 23 2012 00:25 GMT

#1574

@Jay: Maybe I read more into ghost's defense than you did, but I thought it made sense.

Obviously you think you have better reads than me, and that's cool, but I made a call. I didn't give him anything that could kill someone, for what it's worth.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 23 2012 00:31 GMT

#1575

On March 23 2012 09:25 Velinath wrote:
@Jay: Maybe I read more into ghost's defense than you did, but I thought it made sense.

Obviously you think you have better reads than me, and that's cool, but I made a call. I didn't give him anything that could kill someone, for what it's worth.

I don't think, I have better reads than you, where did you read that? I just question your ghost read and want to know why you think he's town over a bunch of other players. And why didn't you use the item yourself?

Velinath

United States694 Posts

March 23 2012 00:38 GMT

#1576

On March 23 2012 09:31 Jayjay54 wrote:

Show nested quote +

I didn't use the item myself because people have had doubts since day 1 that I was town, so I gave it to someone who looked town to me (again, based on his defense, which certainly persuaded me). If I were to use the item myself I didn't believe it would have as much credence if I reported results from said item.

Does that make sense? I'm really tired.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 23 2012 00:44 GMT

#1577

hmm oook.

I also want to add that the Mason QT has 17 individual viewers, so either scum or obs qt is watching...might be a little much for scum only though...

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 23 2012 00:44 GMT

#1578

Velinath do you have any abilities that activate when people visit you?

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

March 23 2012 00:48 GMT

#1579

Assuming that the mafia only send 1 KP, and given that Bluelightz was responsible for the "sent to android hell" deaths, it seems that the new mafia kill flavor is "discouraged." Foolishness and Grack both make sense as scum kills.

"Drowned in a sea of madness" could well be the sleeper cell kills, as BH and Zeph also make sense as scum kills, and I think the "burned to death" deaths are town-aligned, or are at least in the interests of town (killing lurkers).

The Lord of the Rift kill was probably one-shot, which suggests that the 4 "great powers" 3rd party each have one-shot unblockable KP, and that there are 2 more unused shots. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that they have similar win-conditions, where each "great power" is trying to kill one of the other 3. If this were the case, one would already have "won" and now only needs to survive. Perhaps this might even explain Dirk's behavior: he clearly can play this game very well, but has chosen to basically sit back and do nothing. It could be because he's already won.

If, as according to Jayjay, Dirk can telepathically mason with people at will, then it might be indicative of him being a "great power." Obviously, these are tentative conjectures, and I'd much rather stick with lynching someone like kita, nisani, or sbrubbles today, but I think it's worth taking into consideration.

Also, note that the destabilization level didn't rise further today. Clearly, the Lord of the Rift didn't get the Engine from gonzaw. One small victory for us, at least.

Velinath, are we supposed to trust ghost to also be transparent and use the item for the good of the town? From his last post, it surely doesn't seem like it :/. I would personally have felt much more comfortable if you had just used the item yourself and announced it.