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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:39 Bluelightz wrote: Adding to the discussion Should the person that gets elected should claim the power or not? I think that he should claim the powers if its anti-town but im open to other opinions :D. I'm leaning on a claim of the ability no matter what (unless its forbidden and it's against science.) The two scenarios I see: It's a bad ability: - It's claimed, and town know that it shouldn't be used and monitor if it has been or not. If it has, Wheatley dies - It's not claimed, we know nothing It's a good ability: - It's claimed, and town know that it should be used, and makes sure that Wheatley lives to use it. If he doesn't Wheatley dies - It's not claimed, we still know nothing | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:41 Drazerk wrote: They should claim the power instantly. Only issue is who ever gets it has a lot of time to prepare a fake ability so really it serves no purpose but to bend them to our knees and force them to do what we tell them to do as a collective town Depending on the ability they fake, they'll have to be able to reproduce the results, and we can assume the ability will probably be something unique, based on the game so far. So, if the person claims "It was an extra night-life!" Or something, we'll know they're probably lying. Also, it might be detectable to information roles. Would this extra ability be tacked onto a person's existing role? So, if a role cop checked them, would they see the ability, or just the role like normal? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Depending on the ability they fake, they'll have to be able to reproduce the results, and we can assume the ability will probably be something unique, based on the game so far. So, if the person claims "It was an extra night-life!" Or something, we'll know they're probably lying. Also, it might be detectable to information roles. Would this extra ability be tacked onto a person's existing role? So, if a role cop checked them, would they see the ability, or just the role like normal? This works just like electing a mayor or sheriff. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:45 Hassybaby wrote: I'm leaning on a claim of the ability no matter what (unless its forbidden and it's against science.) The two scenarios I see: It's a bad ability: - It's claimed, and town know that it shouldn't be used and monitor if it has been or not. If it has, Wheatley dies - It's not claimed, we know nothing It's a good ability: - It's claimed, and town know that it should be used, and makes sure that Wheatley lives to use it. If he doesn't Wheatley dies - It's not claimed, we still know nothing it will almost certainly a good ability. wheatley is a tool robot. he will be a PR ability 95%. The ability now is not the issue whatsover. The problem is however, that he might become town's worst anyone out of a sudden with a complete set of new abilities, BG's or whatever. whoever will be elected already scares the shit out of me. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:35 MidnightGladius wrote: That is possible, but I still think it's in our best interests to keep the "special ability" out of the hands of the scum. If it turns out to be anti-town, we can presumably just choose not to use it, and having the information will also help. I am willing to stand for election. As all I get is access to the "special ability," and not a day 1 lynch, my campaign pledge will be to be completely transparent about the "special ability", if elected. I would be willing to fully disclose its details to the town, and then we could decide from there whether and how to use it. If, as Jayjay suggests, I am later forced to become a maniacal killer, then we'll just have to deal with that eventuality when it comes :D. EBWOP: Ah, the joy of democracy. I had forgotten that I could vote for myself. ##Elect: MidnightGladius | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:50 Drazerk wrote: Do we have to give someone Wheatley or can we just no vote? I should have made it more clear. You must vote for someone and a no-elect is not possible. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:25 Adam4167 wrote: I think you have missed my point. Regardless, its not worth dwelling on. Meh you are right, it's not that important. I'll just lay it all here though, so we can get past this "Who are scum? Was VE scum or 3rd party? Etc": -VE's win condition is that of mafia, "Your win condition is for the Cell to outnumber the remaining players in the game". Since the other normal/known 3rd party faction to have a similar win condition are the Cultists, and seeing as his role, nor SA roles from previous games convert people to their faction, then we could just safely assume they are not 3rd party, and are in fact a scum faction. The fact that the Day 1 post says there will be "villains from your past", and that we have to "kill them all"; and the fact that the Sleeper Agents were the "villains" from Sleeper Cell 2, which is in the same universe this game is set in, makes it VERY likely they are a scum team. -There are 3 more players belonging to this scum faction -It's likely there is another scum faction as well, meaning another "villain from the past" Also, I'd want to get elected as well. I doubt the Wheatly role will be some kind of Mole that becomes scum later on, it doesn't make sense from a balance point of view to punish town if they ever get a strong townie in said position to just make him scum/3rd party/etc later on. Also I'm town and I don't want scum to get any abilities from it (I know you guys don't know my alignement, but well that's my incentive for it). If the special ability is a vig shot, medic save, DT check, being bulletproof etc or a normal ability, I'd probably claim said ability. If it's an ability that would give scum too much info if revealed, then probably not. I won't lie now though, if I get elected, and the ability is interesting enough, I may lie about it if I'm pressured to confuse scum. However, this is just making another blue role, this "mayor" doesn't elect lynches, doesn't get any bodyguards. Apart from the "Special Ability" he's useless, so I don't think it would be too smart to dwell on who's elected, other than "He has an ability". | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
I'll put my hat in the ring for the Wheatley thing, too. While I'm not as experienced as others in this game are, I believe I can play transparently when put in a public office and be accountable for my actions taken with a given power. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
##Elect: Velinath | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:57 gonzaw wrote: I won't lie now though, if I get elected, and the ability is interesting enough, I may lie about it if I'm pressured to confuse scum. This by itself means I will simply refuse to ever vote you in as Wheatley. Nonaccountability isn't a good idea. | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:01 Velinath wrote: This by itself means I will simply refuse to ever vote you in as Wheatley. Nonaccountability isn't a good idea. We should not trust anyone with Wheatley and just presumed they lied about the ability. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Y'all know who I am, most of you have played with me before. Anyone that read the final days of BC's Arkham City would know that I am willing to put in 12+ hours a day to get a win in a game of mafia. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, I didn't get a win in that game (-_-), but this time I am ready to be the hero that you deserve. So vote to Elect Adam4167! ##ElectAdam4167 | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote: I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory. ##Elect: Velinath On March 17 2012 10:02 Drazerk wrote:We should not trust anyone with Wheatley and just presumed they lied about the ability. What do you mean by this? | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
##Elect: Mr.Wiggles | ||
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote: I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory. ##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's... | ||
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