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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath
Why should we trust you? What reasons do you possibly have? My thoughts on you are "dayvig with poor trigger discipline" but I don't see how that qualifies you to make some sort of decision like this. Simply asking for people's trust without anything to back it up is completely meaningless, it doesn't add anything to your vote.
##Elect: blzinghand
If elected, I will lower taxes, raise spending, and balance the budget.
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On March 17 2012 10:01 Velinath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 09:57 gonzaw wrote:
I won't lie now though, if I get elected, and the ability is interesting enough, I may lie about it if I'm pressured to confuse scum.
This by itself means I will simply refuse to ever vote you in as Wheatley. Nonaccountability isn't a good idea.
And why do you think it's not a good idea?
What if the ability would give scum an advantage if revealed to the thread?
For instance:
Imagine the ability is just a DT check. Perhaps you'll be RBed from now till the end of the game if you state so.
However, if you don't say anything, or you say "it made me bulletproof", it may confuse scum to not RB or hit you.
Same the other way round, you claim you got a DT ability, but you were in fact bulletproof to attract RBs and hits.
Not taking into account more complex abilities, that could be game changing if scum knew nothing about them.
I will be honest, if that was the case I'd probably lie about it if I was pressured to state it, or I would basicly not tell it to the thread at all.
And I believe you (if you are town) may do the same thing, even though you are asking for "accountability".
If you are scum, you can just reveal a fake ability to town to confuse us as well.
Either way, I think the Wheatly role will be ignored throughout the game, just like those "Special Abilities" from Election Mafia were.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's...
Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives.
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On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's...
Honestly that was just bad timing as you can see I have been posting rapidly all game I chose to vote for Velinath for something he had already done and wanted myself to be the one to propose him.
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I agree. gonzaw is not a good candidate.
also, self voting is as stupid as it could be and should be ruled out in any mafia game as it basically undermines the purpose of an election on day 1: give information to town.
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Ooo, I see... that makes way more sense.. so you independently wanted to elect him... Without revealing too much, any other reasons you can give that would cause his election to be beneficial to the town? I agree with Blazinghand that its kind of meaningless currently...
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Anyone have a thoughts on who we should lynch? I'm gonna oppose anything involving no lynch d1, policies(LA- Lurkers as backup is fine though for today only), and random lynch.
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On March 17 2012 10:13 Jayjay54 wrote:
I agree. gonzaw is not a good candidate.
also, self voting is as stupid as it could be and should be ruled out in any mafia game as it basically undermines the purpose of an election on day 1: give information to town.
It doesn't really matter yet but in the later hours we will be forcing people to consolidate their votes which should provide more information... if they do not comply well I guess we can always shoot more people.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's... Honestly that was just bad timing as you can see I have been posting rapidly all game I chose to vote for Velinath for something he had already done and wanted myself to be the one to propose him.
...and.... we NEED to trust you? Come on, man, you can play better than this. So trigger happy, so poorly explained, on both your shot and your Elect vote. ;_; Let's get some serious cases here.
Look, I promised to lower taxes, raise spending,a nd balance the budget. What's your case for Veli? Like a real case.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:13 Jayjay54 wrote:
I agree. gonzaw is not a good candidate.
also, self voting is as stupid as it could be and should be ruled out in any mafia game as it basically undermines the purpose of an election on day 1: give information to town.
Oh waht should I unvote? Look I think it's pretty clear that *I* am the best candidate. The other candidates seem pretty underwhelming to me, and Drazerk is about as useful as a bowling ball in a swimming pool at the moment. You should elect me.
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Midnightgladius has recieved 10 science collaboration points
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On March 17 2012 10:17 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:11 Drazerk wrote:On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's... Honestly that was just bad timing as you can see I have been posting rapidly all game I chose to vote for Velinath for something he had already done and wanted myself to be the one to propose him. ...and.... we NEED to trust you? Come on, man, you can play better than this. So trigger happy, so poorly explained, on both your shot and your Elect vote. ;_; Let's get some serious cases here. Look, I promised to lower taxes, raise spending,a nd balance the budget. What's your case for Veli? Like a real case.
I know he is the same as me or a DT.
Either way I am certain he is not scum and so gets my vote and I want you to vote for him.
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On March 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's... Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives.
Well thats a personal question.
Or statement.
DICK.
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My eyes O_O, I think that Wiggles is town and trustable for the elections, vote for the wiggul cause!
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On March 17 2012 10:19 Drazerk wrote:
I know he is the same as me or a DT.
Either way I am certain he is not scum and so gets my vote and I want you to vote for him.
If that is the case, and we end up having to deal with renegade Wheatley, we'll be losing a PR. Why not elect a vanilla town like me, instead?
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On March 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.
##Elect: Velinath Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot.. I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's... Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives.
Velinath is better then? Is it because of the "accountability" thing?
What are the reasons I wouldn't be a good candidate?
Remember, you are just electing an ability; not a mayor; not a player with protection, just an ability.
If you don't think I'm scum, what on earth would make me a bad candidate?
If you do think I'm scum, or you have doubts about my alignment, then state your reasons for believing so.
On March 17 2012 10:08 Bluelightz wrote:
For the elections, I vote Mr.Wiggles to be Wheatley position, Mr.Wiggles is lookking fairly town and has put effort into his posts.
##Elect: Mr.Wiggles
Why is he looking fairly town?
He has 3 posts with almost no interesting content at all.
Are you able to read Wiggles that well? If so, can you prove that?
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:21 Bluelightz wrote:
My eyes O_O, I think that Wiggles is town and trustable for the elections, vote for the wiggul cause!
Wiggles is someone who should never win the election for several reasons
1) If he is scum we are screwed and there is no coming back
2) If he is town and it turns bad we are also screwed
3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument
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@gonzaw
On March 17 2012 08:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Though I question why you'd choose to shoot less than an hour into day 1, we just got a bunch of information from that lynch. We now know there's three sleeper cell members, so that's a modconfirmed scum number we can work with.
So is that actually the reason you shot him Drazerk? I don't see why you'd think that about VE as compared to anyone else, and why you'd shoot him without posting.
Would mafia ask this question? I think that Wiggles is town based on that he is posting like not being coordinated with other people.
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On March 17 2012 10:21 MidnightGladius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:19 Drazerk wrote:
I know he is the same as me or a DT.
Either way I am certain he is not scum and so gets my vote and I want you to vote for him. If that is the case, and we end up having to deal with renegade Wheatley, we'll be losing a PR. Why not elect a vanilla town like me, instead?
I do not believe in vannila townies considering the set up and what the game was originally going to be so you really might want to back track that claim.
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