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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:03 gonzaw wrote: So... will there be "villains from our past" from Election Mafia as well? If someone is elected on Day 1 to be Wheatly, could he get elected in subsuquent days, if there were more elections on next days? You have received all nessesary information | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 17 2012 08:55 gonzaw wrote: If the scum team is in fact the Sleeper agent, then they can't communicate with each other, so how can they plan this "ploy" you are speaking off? If Drazerk was SA, he didn't know VE was SA as well, so he didn't know he could make this ploy. Maybe he would have hit a townie, and his whole plan would go down the drain. I assume there is also a 'standard' scum family out there, due to VE flipping black instead of red. Having just 4 sleeper agents in a 31 person game seems pretty ridiculous to me... but we'll see. On March 17 2012 08:56 Jayjay54 wrote: why can't you see that? maybe he is compulsive and the early kill unbinds him from any possibilities. cell agent have a prob 80-90 % chance to NOT kill other agents. there's no way we can rule out that this is the other way round and he is a freaking unlucky cell and is now pissed that their shared shadowbender flavour is revealed. I can picture a combination like "has been killed by shadow and fire", "shadow + x" or whatever, you get the idea. I am not saying, it is that way, but the coindidence is quite great in the matching flavour. You run the risk of bumping off one of your teammates for the gain of what? killing a townie and bringing the rest of the town down on you. Its always a possibility, but its not a shot I would take. Regardless, speculating about Drazerks alignment over this one action is not going to result in much. Lets let his actions in the coming day or two tell the tale. | ||
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:12 Adam4167 wrote: I assume there is also a 'standard' scum family out there, due to VE flipping black instead of red. Having just 4 sleeper agents in a 31 person game seems pretty ridiculous to me... but we'll see. You run the risk of bumping off one of your teammates for the gain of what? killing a townie and bringing the rest of the town down on you. Its always a possibility, but its not a shot I would take. Regardless, speculating about Drazerks alignment over this one action is not going to result in much. Lets let his actions in the coming day or two tell the tale. How do you know there's just 4 and not 9 cell agents? Random assumption? Whatever these alignment speculations don't get us anywhere... I am just pointing out the flavour so it is noticed. Again, kill can be compulsive or he looks for an item. We don't know shit. But you're right, it's way too early to claim an alignment here. Still, this deserves an entry in every spreadsheet. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:16 Jayjay54 wrote: How do you know there's just 4 and not 9 cell agents? Random assumption? Whatever these alignment speculations don't get us anywhere... I am just pointing out the flavour so it is noticed. Again, kill can be compulsive or he looks for an item. We don't know shit. But you're right, it's way too early to claim an alignment here. Still, this deserves an entry in every spreadsheet. On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote: Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger, (VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame! Role PM: Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are Melichor the Endesleid, a Shadowsinger. Every night you may visit a player and wrap reality around them, inverting effects that target the player. What this means is that medic protects will kill them, detective checks will return the opposite alignment, kp will protect, etc. You are also a member of the Sleeper Cell . You do not know the other 3 members, however you do know a Cell leader is in this game, and you may receive messages from him during the day or night phase. Your win condition is for the Cell to outnumber the remaining players in the game. I was blessed with the ability to read. =) | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I don't get why drazerk claimed in fact. Also who is running for election? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:16 Jayjay54 wrote: How do you know there's just 4 and not 9 cell agents? Random assumption? Whatever these alignment speculations don't get us anywhere... I am just pointing out the flavour so it is noticed. Again, kill can be compulsive or he looks for an item. We don't know shit. But you're right, it's way too early to claim an alignment here. Still, this deserves an entry in every spreadsheet. On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote: [/spoiler]You do not know the other 3 members, however you do know a Cell leader is in this game, and you may receive messages from him during the day or night phase. Your win condition is for the Cell to outnumber the remaining players in the game. EZ | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:12 Adam4167 wrote: I assume there is also a 'standard' scum family out there, due to VE flipping black instead of red. Having just 4 sleeper agents in a 31 person game seems pretty ridiculous to me... but we'll see. The point is that Drazerk being Sleeper Agent, and planning shooting VE as a "ploy" doesn't make sense. He could still be from another scum faction, but in that case I don't think he would know VE was a sleeper agent (unless scum have a Day-DT as well, and got lucky). Okay, there have been only 6-7 people actively posting in this thread, and only 9-10 posted at all. The remaining 21-22 players need to post. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:19 Adam4167 wrote: I was blessed with the ability to read. =) Uh, thanks for pointing that out. @Mav: Normally some people will make a campaign post pointing out there style and so on which leads to an election. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
It is usable at any time with some major limitations It's name is Shadows and Flames I need items and that is all I am telling you about my role I did it for three main reasons - A) take out someone who I thought would be too dangerous if they was scum / third party ( there was a few on this list but it came down to past experiences ) B) Prevents stupid fluff posts at the start of the game and causes discussion which in turn allows us to scum hunt efficiently C) I really wanted to use the ability before they got to do anything | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:20 gonzaw wrote: The point is that Drazerk being Sleeper Agent, and planning shooting VE as a "ploy" doesn't make sense. He could still be from another scum faction, but in that case I don't think he would know VE was a sleeper agent (unless scum have a Day-DT as well, and got lucky). Okay, there have been only 6-7 people actively posting in this thread, and only 9-10 posted at all. The remaining 21-22 players need to post. I think you have missed my point. Regardless, its not worth dwelling on. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
For anyone who hasn't played portal 2: He gets the successor of Glados and basically gets insane and stuff. He will be a cute robot now, but I gotta feeling he won't stay that way. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote: I also want to point out the possibility of wheatley betraying us later on. For anyone who hasn't played portal 2: He gets the successor of Glados and basically gets insane and stuff. He will be a cute robot now, but I gotta feeling he won't stay that way. I presumed the same which means who ever has it will be taking a huge risk in having the item but at the same time we don't want scum to have it meaning we need to give it to someone who won't be that important but who we believe to be town. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote: I also want to point out the possibility of wheatley betraying us later on. For anyone who hasn't played portal 2: He gets the successor of Glados and basically gets insane and stuff. He will be a cute robot now, but I gotta feeling he won't stay that way. Agreed. But whatever initial power he comes with is better in our hands than in that of a non-town. We can just keep an eye on whoever we elect and if they start doing stupid shit, we get rid of them.. or possibly transfer their consciousness into a potato. | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote: I also want to point out the possibility of wheatley betraying us later on. For anyone who hasn't played portal 2: He gets the successor of Glados and basically gets insane and stuff. He will be a cute robot now, but I gotta feeling he won't stay that way. That is possible, but I still think it's in our best interests to keep the "special ability" out of the hands of the scum. If it turns out to be anti-town, we can presumably just choose not to use it, and having the information will also help. I am willing to stand for election. As all I get is access to the "special ability," and not a day 1 lynch, my campaign pledge will be to be completely transparent about the "special ability", if elected. I would be willing to fully disclose its details to the town, and then we could decide from there whether and how to use it. If, as Jayjay suggests, I am later forced to become a maniacal killer, then we'll just have to deal with that eventuality when it comes :D. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:20 gonzaw wrote: The point is that Drazerk being Sleeper Agent, and planning shooting VE as a "ploy" doesn't make sense. He could still be from another scum faction, but in that case I don't think he would know VE was a sleeper agent (unless scum have a Day-DT as well, and got lucky). Okay, there have been only 6-7 people actively posting in this thread, and only 9-10 posted at all. The remaining 21-22 players need to post. If he was another scum faction, he'd just kill him based on reputation and meta. i.e. get rid of a strong player as fast as you can. On March 17 2012 09:22 Drazerk wrote: Kill wasn't compulsive It is usable at any time with some major limitations It's name is Shadows and Flames I need items and that is all I am telling you about my role I did it for three main reasons - A) take out someone who I thought would be too dangerous if they was scum / third party ( there was a few on this list but it came down to past experiences ) B) Prevents stupid fluff posts at the start of the game and causes discussion which in turn allows us to scum hunt efficiently C) I really wanted to use the ability before they got to do anything Are you claiming Neutral Balrog Survivor? :p I'm not sure how much discussion it really has created, more so than confusion. At least you hit scum, though, and his role had valuable info in it. If you had hit town, you would have thrown all of day 1 down the toilet. I'm not sure if I buy that reason, and I'm going to keep my eye on you. On an unrelated note, this game makes my brain hurt. What did Celtic Guardian do in the show again? I forget, I just remember Yugi used him all the time. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Firstly, whatever the intentions were, that was still helpful to us with the info we got. At least we have something to work towards now that we know how many are in the sleeper cell. Right now I'm leaning on Drazerk being trigger-happy. As for Wheatley, there are a few things I wanted to comment on: - I agree with jayjay about the possibility of a betrayal later on. But at the same time, the post seems to indicate that while he has no control over Day 1 lynch, he might well do later on. - He has no bodyguards, so whoever gets the position will probably need some level of protection if they don't have it as their role. But I don't think he'll be a target till Day 2 | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 09:39 Bluelightz wrote: Adding to the discussion Should the person that gets elected should claim the power or not? I think that he should claim the powers if its anti-town but im open to other opinions :D. They should claim the power instantly. Only issue is who ever gets it has a lot of time to prepare a fake ability so really it serves no purpose but to bend them to our knees and force them to do what we tell them to do as a collective town | ||
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