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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 16 2012 23:39 GMT
#261
On March 17 2012 08:33 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:28 Drazerk wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
BG


Sorry mate I presumed that you would either be scum, third party or have an item all of which was pro bonus for me... if you was town oh well I would of took the heat for it but still would of claimed it


Why in particular did you think this about VE? Why not someone else?


Looked at the player list and picked who I thought was the strongest player that was all it was


Why would you kill the strongest player 1 hour into the day?
Why the strongest, specifically?

Are you afraid that he would play too well for you?
Are you afraid that he would have found you based on meta or whatnot?

Are you scum?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 16 2012 23:41 GMT
#262
On March 17 2012 08:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....



More than...


On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!




?


yea, we already KNOW that VE is a sleeper cell shadowsinger. I don't think is being tested here

but draz claims the kill, so his kill flavour is Consumed by Shadow and Flame


TBH "consumed by shadow and flame" is the flavor for VE from my eyes.

What I understood is that each player has a flavor for his own death, not for each player that he kills
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 16 2012 23:41 GMT
#263
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#264
On March 17 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....



More than...


On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!




?


yea, we already KNOW that VE is a sleeper cell shadowsinger. I don't think is being tested here

but draz claims the kill, so his kill flavour is Consumed by Shadow and Flame


TBH "consumed by shadow and flame" is the flavor for VE from my eyes.

What I understood is that each player has a flavor for his own death, not for each player that he kills


hmm. I don't think so.

even the modkills have a "kill flavour":

On March 17 2012 08:22 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:20 MidnightGladius wrote:
Is that a real modkill? If so, what was he modkilled for?


Test subjects who violate testing protocol will be "Thrown into the Aperture Science Rift Hole."
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#265
On March 17 2012 08:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....



More than...


On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!




?


yea, we already KNOW that VE is a sleeper cell shadowsinger. I don't think is being tested here

but draz claims the kill, so his kill flavour is Consumed by Shadow and Flame


Its the name of the ability so yes it is
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 16 2012 23:43 GMT
#266
On March 17 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....



More than...


On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!




?


yea, we already KNOW that VE is a sleeper cell shadowsinger. I don't think is being tested here

but draz claims the kill, so his kill flavour is Consumed by Shadow and Flame


TBH "consumed by shadow and flame" is the flavor for VE from my eyes.

What I understood is that each player has a flavor for his own death, not for each player that he kills



From OP:
On March 09 2012 15:36 GreYMisT wrote:
Game Setup Information

Every player has their own unique kill flavor.


Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 16 2012 23:43 GMT
#267
On March 17 2012 08:41 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?


Well, this action makes no sense from any side to me. He claims for the items...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
March 16 2012 23:48 GMT
#268
The gonzaw player is the most intelligent player.
The gonzaw player is never wrong.

Statistically, mafia win 64.37% of their games.
The Serial Killer was a role created by egyptian townies to justify murdering each other at night.
Back in 2010, Medic roles used to have a hidden feature, where they could choose to kill the host and save the Town Idiot.
Fact: Lemons contain traces of potassium sulfate.







Well okay, let's get started!

...


I guess the derp and confusion has already started though >_>




Drazerk, even if you chose to shoot VE because he was "strong", why didn't you wait until the middle of the day to see what information he would spit before dying?
He also could have made you change your mind about his alignment (if he was town), so why didn't you consider that possibility?

Also people, remember this:

Also among you are some villains from your past I found through the rift.


Sleeper Cell 2 was the "prequel" to this game (that game had references to Aperture Mafia in their Day/Night posts), so it's not bad to assume both that game and this one belong to the same "universe".

So the sleeper agents might as well be the scum team as well, they are not "confirmed 3rd party".

Also I wonder if the other "villains from your past" could mean scum/3rd party teams from other games.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 16 2012 23:48 GMT
#269
So Drazerk is taking ownership of that kill then?

So I think it would be safe to assume he isn't one of the sleeper agents... so what would be the point of taking ownership of this kill?

For Science...?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 16 2012 23:49 GMT
#270
[image loading]

Celtic Guardian has been played!
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 16 2012 23:50 GMT
#271
On March 17 2012 08:43 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:41 Adam4167 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?


Well, this action makes no sense from any side to me. He claims for the items...


I really cant see a sleeper taking that shot in the first half-hour of the game.
There's a small chance it could be a mafia ploy to get Drazerk into the spotlight or 'confirmed'.
Far and away the most likely solution to me is that hes a trigger-happy townie who just struck gold.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 16 2012 23:52 GMT
#272
On March 17 2012 08:48 Maverick32x wrote:
So Drazerk is taking ownership of that kill then?

So I think it would be safe to assume he isn't one of the sleeper agents... so what would be the point of taking ownership of this kill?

For Science...?


he takes ownership because he killed a cell agent, which is good for town.

and no it's not safe to assume he isn't an agent, they don't know each other.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
March 16 2012 23:55 GMT
#273
On March 17 2012 08:50 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:43 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:41 Adam4167 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?


Well, this action makes no sense from any side to me. He claims for the items...


I really cant see a sleeper taking that shot in the first half-hour of the game.
There's a small chance it could be a mafia ploy to get Drazerk into the spotlight or 'confirmed'.
Far and away the most likely solution to me is that hes a trigger-happy townie who just struck gold.



If the scum team is in fact the Sleeper agent, then they can't communicate with each other, so how can they plan this "ploy" you are speaking off?

If Drazerk was SA, he didn't know VE was SA as well, so he didn't know he could make this ploy.
Maybe he would have hit a townie, and his whole plan would go down the drain.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 16 2012 23:56 GMT
#274
On March 17 2012 08:50 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:43 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:41 Adam4167 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?


Well, this action makes no sense from any side to me. He claims for the items...


I really cant see a sleeper taking that shot in the first half-hour of the game.
There's a small chance it could be a mafia ploy to get Drazerk into the spotlight or 'confirmed'.
Far and away the most likely solution to me is that hes a trigger-happy townie who just struck gold.


why can't you see that? maybe he is compulsive and the early kill unbinds him from any possibilities. cell agent have a prob 80-90 % chance to NOT kill other agents.

there's no way we can rule out that this is the other way round and he is a freaking unlucky cell and is now pissed that their shared shadowbender flavour is revealed.

I can picture a combination like "has been killed by shadow and fire", "shadow + x" or whatever, you get the idea.

I am not saying, it is that way, but the coindidence is quite great in the matching flavour.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 16 2012 23:58 GMT
#275
On March 17 2012 08:56 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:50 Adam4167 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:43 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:41 Adam4167 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Cell Agent Melichor the Endesleid, the Shadowsinger,(VisceraEyes), Was Consumed by Shadow and Flame!


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....


I don't think someone in a sleeper cell situation would be so casual with a day-vig shot... knowing his 3 other teammates were out there somewhere and run the risk of killing one... for what? to off a possible townie?


Well, this action makes no sense from any side to me. He claims for the items...


I really cant see a sleeper taking that shot in the first half-hour of the game.
There's a small chance it could be a mafia ploy to get Drazerk into the spotlight or 'confirmed'.
Far and away the most likely solution to me is that hes a trigger-happy townie who just struck gold.


why can't you see that? maybe he is compulsive and the early kill unbinds him from any possibilities. cell agent have a prob 80-90 % chance to NOT kill other agents.

there's no way we can rule out that this is the other way round and he is a freaking unlucky cell and is now pissed that their shared shadowbender flavour is revealed.

I can picture a combination like "has been killed by shadow and fire", "shadow + x" or whatever, you get the idea.

I am not saying, it is that way, but the coindidence is quite great in the matching flavour.


I think "killed by shadow and flame" is more likely to be a reference to the Balrog from Lord of the Rings. I would argue that since Drazerk claimed the kill that this is likely his role.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 16 2012 23:59 GMT
#276
ebwop: obviously this doesn't reveal anything alignment wise, but I think that roles will play some part in determining things as the game wears on
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 05:39:25
March 17 2012 00:00 GMT
#277
I hope you are all enjoying testing.


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In addition to the Day 1 Lynch, there will be a Day 1 Election for the honor of being Wheatley. Wheatley is a helpfull, and slightly dim robot, and as such will not recieve any bodygaurds, nor will he control the day 1 lynch. Wheatley does however have a Special Ability that will be revealed only to himself. Voting for the election will take place in the voting thread. Please use the format: ##Elect: GreYMisT

The day will end in 47 hours, on Monday, Mar 19 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
March 17 2012 00:03 GMT
#278
Hi guys, I'm gonnna read up on the thread soon.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
March 17 2012 00:03 GMT
#279
So... will there be "villains from our past" from Election Mafia as well?


If someone is elected on Day 1 to be Wheatly, could he get elected in subsuquent days, if there were more elections on next days?


Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 00:06 GMT
#280
DO NOT VOTE FOR ME
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