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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#1061
yeah same here.
On another matter: I posted a couple things about VE and noone said a thing about it so I guess I should vote as well.

##vote VisceraEyes
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 24 2012 18:08 GMT
#1062
How about this Toad: I'm genuinely upset at DocH because he's one of my strongest town-reads and he spent at least 2 hours last night being a fucking dick to me? Does that not factor in? Does the fact that I tried being civil and keeping my cool not factor in at all?

I'll admit that I lost it last night - but look at the reasoning. DocH is just calling everything I do scummy. I don't know why, and I don't know what he expects. This is how I play Mafia. But I'm not going to apologize for trying to find scum. It should be clear to anyone reading the thread that I'm trying to find scum.

Move your vote somewhere useful Toad. I'm rereading, so I don't really know where that would be...but take it off me. You'll only end up disappointed.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 24 2012 18:35 GMT
#1063
On February 25 2012 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about this Toad: I'm genuinely upset at DocH because he's one of my strongest town-reads and he spent at least 2 hours last night being a fucking dick to me? Does that not factor in? Does the fact that I tried being civil and keeping my cool not factor in at all?

I'll admit that I lost it last night - but look at the reasoning. DocH is just calling everything I do scummy. I don't know why, and I don't know what he expects. This is how I play Mafia. But I'm not going to apologize for trying to find scum. It should be clear to anyone reading the thread that I'm trying to find scum.

Move your vote somewhere useful Toad. I'm rereading, so I don't really know where that would be...but take it off me. You'll only end up disappointed.

mmmh. Good thing you answered. I'd say Towny-VE would answer me while Mafia-VE would not even bother talking about it because it's only me who's attacking you and it's not like that's a great danger (yet^^).
So while my points about you still stand I voted you to get some reactions. So far I like what I see because imo it's a Town-VE treat imo. Doesn't mean you're town to me but you're off my list for now.

##unvote
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2012 18:39 GMT
#1064
On February 25 2012 01:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
This post is scummy. Seriously, I can't stress this enough. The logic isn't congruent. Predicting scum behavior can be hard sometimes, but this is honestly one of the most straightforward uses of it. We know scum most likely has a RBer, or at the very least we are assuming that.

We know nothing of the sort. You may know something but I certainly know nothing.
Nobody is informed if they took a hit.
Nobody is informed if they were role blocked.
Nobody is informed if they made a save.
We don't know dick. We don't even know what kind of KP scum have.
Life can only kill you once.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 24 2012 18:46 GMT
#1065
RoL thinks I'm mafia because I don't care about guessing what the mafia will do at night, especially after people are announcing it in the thread. Terrible analysis, he's doing it only out of defense and his "activity" is completely centered around his defense now.

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 24 2012 18:48 GMT
#1066
I never try to make predictions in closed set ups, I always get it wrong and look like an idiot. RoL still hasn't pointed out why redFF is scum other than the fact that he claimed tracker, which is a terrible reason.

VE, how do you expect me to behave toward someone I believe is mafia?
RIP Aaliyah
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 24 2012 18:49 GMT
#1067
Jackal, we can assume that there's a RB because redFF claimed Tracker. Do you imagine redFF is clever enough to come up with the extra info regarding his role that he came up with (list of targets or whatever)? Like, be careful how you answer this question because I know you know the answer.

If we assume that redFF was Tracker, we can assume scum have a RB because unless their shots are person-person (which IS possible beeteedubz) we can assume that the Tracker is in place to catch RB or some other targeted role (role cop or framer come to mind).

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 24 2012 18:51 GMT
#1068
Unless they have a very good reason, currently I consider anyone whose vote is not on either RoL or
blazinghand to be scum.

Those two players should be our focus today.

Jackal, where the fuck have you been?

Chaoser? You?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 24 2012 18:53 GMT
#1069
It's safe to assume that mafia have to pick who they sent to perform their kills given palmar's comment in the mafia recruitement initiative thread

I forgot this because I normally always assume mafia sends a specific player to do the killing


If there is a tracker in a game that is pretty much always the case anyway
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 24 2012 18:54 GMT
#1070
On February 25 2012 03:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I never try to make predictions in closed set ups, I always get it wrong and look like an idiot. RoL still hasn't pointed out why redFF is scum other than the fact that he claimed tracker, which is a terrible reason.

VE, how do you expect me to behave toward someone I believe is mafia?


You don't have to be a dick. I think Blazinghand is mafia, do you see me repeatedly calling his posts worthless or shitty or whatever the fuck? No. Because I want Blazinghand to enjoy the game IN SPITE of being on the opposite team as him. But you know, I wouldn't expect you to think that way.

Just leave me alone Doc.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 24 2012 18:56 GMT
#1071
On February 25 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I never try to make predictions in closed set ups, I always get it wrong and look like an idiot. RoL still hasn't pointed out why redFF is scum other than the fact that he claimed tracker, which is a terrible reason.

VE, how do you expect me to behave toward someone I believe is mafia?


You don't have to be a dick. I think Blazinghand is mafia, do you see me repeatedly calling his posts worthless or shitty or whatever the fuck? No. Because I want Blazinghand to enjoy the game IN SPITE of being on the opposite team as him. But you know, I wouldn't expect you to think that way.

Just leave me alone Doc.


Your posts being fluffy and useless are part of my case. I don't care how upset it makes you.
RIP Aaliyah
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 24 2012 18:59 GMT
#1072
On February 25 2012 03:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I never try to make predictions in closed set ups, I always get it wrong and look like an idiot. RoL still hasn't pointed out why redFF is scum other than the fact that he claimed tracker, which is a terrible reason.

VE, how do you expect me to behave toward someone I believe is mafia?


You don't have to be a dick. I think Blazinghand is mafia, do you see me repeatedly calling his posts worthless or shitty or whatever the fuck? No. Because I want Blazinghand to enjoy the game IN SPITE of being on the opposite team as him. But you know, I wouldn't expect you to think that way.

Just leave me alone Doc.


Your posts being fluffy and useless are part of my case. I don't care how upset it makes you.


If your case is based on my posting being shitty/worthless then you should say so. I think it's entirely unreasonable to make a case on someone who's posting shittily and not say he's posting shittily.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 24 2012 19:00 GMT
#1073
On February 25 2012 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I never try to make predictions in closed set ups, I always get it wrong and look like an idiot. RoL still hasn't pointed out why redFF is scum other than the fact that he claimed tracker, which is a terrible reason.

VE, how do you expect me to behave toward someone I believe is mafia?


You don't have to be a dick. I think Blazinghand is mafia, do you see me repeatedly calling his posts worthless or shitty or whatever the fuck? No. Because I want Blazinghand to enjoy the game IN SPITE of being on the opposite team as him. But you know, I wouldn't expect you to think that way.

Just leave me alone Doc.


Your posts being fluffy and useless are part of my case. I don't care how upset it makes you.


If your case is based on my posting being shitty/worthless then you should say so. I think it's entirely unreasonable to make a case on someone who's posting shittily and not say he's posting shittily.


And unless your win condition is "Blazinghand has fun" you're probably doing it wrong
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#1074
On February 25 2012 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jackal, we can assume that there's a RB because redFF claimed Tracker. Do you imagine redFF is clever enough to come up with the extra info regarding his role that he came up with (list of targets or whatever)? Like, be careful how you answer this question because I know you know the answer.

If we assume that redFF was Tracker, we can assume scum have a RB because unless their shots are person-person (which IS possible beeteedubz) we can assume that the Tracker is in place to catch RB or some other targeted role (role cop or framer come to mind).


I can't be careful in answering because I really haven't got a clue what you're trying to ask me.
We don't know if red was honest in his claim. He didn't flip. Everybody is making assumptions regarding roles, abilities, actions and other shit but that's all they are at this point. Assumptions. If somebody claims they know something it's because they're scum. And as far as I know at this point in time there isn't any scum. There is absolutely no evidence to show that there are scum in this game. See I can make stupid assumptions too.


On February 25 2012 03:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
Unless they have a very good reason, currently I consider anyone whose vote is not on either RoL or
blazinghand to be scum.

Those two players should be our focus today.

Jackal, where the fuck have you been?

Chaoser? You?

I'm at work Bugs. My wife and I are going out tonight so I won't be around a lot until tomorrow.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 24 2012 19:08 GMT
#1075
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#1076
On February 25 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.


Alright, well consider then my vote on BC both at the end of the lynch yesterday and after the start of the day today. Surely if I were going to hide, I'd hide in a successful wagon?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 24 2012 19:13 GMT
#1077
On February 25 2012 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.


Alright, well consider then my vote on BC both at the end of the lynch yesterday and after the start of the day today. Surely if I were going to hide, I'd hide in a successful wagon?


Unless you're trying to save your scumbuddy. You never acted like you actually wanted to lynch BC. I got the feeling you were just trying to make it LOOK like you wanted to lynch BC. Where was your vote when BC was like a vote away from being lynched? Oh that's right, on redFF.

Anyway, arguing with me isn't accomplishing anything. If you really want to clear your name, you should be explaining why risk.nuke should die (if that's really who you want to lynch.)
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 24 2012 19:16 GMT
#1078
On February 25 2012 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.


Alright, well consider then my vote on BC both at the end of the lynch yesterday and after the start of the day today. Surely if I were going to hide, I'd hide in a successful wagon?


I really don't understand how your filter has 7 pages and not one post in there is worth anything.

You're not scum hunting, you're not defending yourself, you're not...doing anything.

This is a great way to either get ignored or lynched. The former is great for scum and the latter is great for...village idiot. Personally I don't find village idiot likely, seeing as I've never seen a game on this forum with one in the game. However, how else is anyone supposed to explain your play?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 24 2012 19:18 GMT
#1079
lol i just noticed this in the voting thread


On February 23 2012 05:29 prplhz wrote:
##Vote: sandroba



LOL wtf
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#1080
On February 25 2012 04:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 25 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.


Alright, well consider then my vote on BC both at the end of the lynch yesterday and after the start of the day today. Surely if I were going to hide, I'd hide in a successful wagon?


I really don't understand how your filter has 7 pages and not one post in there is worth anything.

You're not scum hunting, you're not defending yourself, you're not...doing anything.

This is a great way to either get ignored or lynched. The former is great for scum and the latter is great for...village idiot. Personally I don't find village idiot likely, seeing as I've never seen a game on this forum with one in the game. However, how else is anyone supposed to explain your play?


If I can't convince you, I can't convince you. Okay look my play has been somewhat sub-optimal so far. That's a fair assessment. I still have plenty of time alive, so I'll develop cases and contribute analysis, and try to not get lynched.

On February 24 2012 19:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 10:07 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't like risk.nuke. He did nothing but make some vague complaints about redFF, then nakedly voted BC with no explanation, and when questioned, was like:

On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 23 2012 06:42 Dirkzor wrote:
15 min to lynch.

Risk you are around?!? Any thought instead of just voting BC?!

Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo.


And has since disappeared from the thread. He's probably hanging out with his scumteam being like "hey guys check out this mad lurking skill" and lurking.

##vote: risk.nuke

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You're all still dumb for killing redFF, you don't kill a person who claims tracker. If he were town scum would either have to kill him and we wouldn't need to waste a lynch or let him live in the hopes that we will kill him out of suspicion but also leaves the risk of him finding scum. If he were scum we would had lynched him soon out of suspicion anyway.


This is risk.nuke breezing by the thread to make a worthless post, then dispensary again.

This is the only post he has made since getting a vote on him. I don't believe this to be a pro-town behavior. A town player would try to help figure things out, I dunno, ANY TIME, or at least comment on what's going on. Risk is not doing any of this. He hasn't done it before my post, and given that this is what he has contributed after my post, I highly recommend the rest of you stop by his filter and take a look at what he's done useful.

Hint: It's nothing and we should lynch him.
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