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On January 09 2012 08:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote: When Sheth flips town hes going to look really really good. - - If I cared about being in the spotlight I woudln't have even started this thing against Ceph and don't pretend you were the FIRST to notice him. But I was the first to post a full case and vote for him. Don't try and pretend that I wasn't the first to actively push for his lynch. I was the one who did that, not you. You "leaned" on him remember? You also switched votes before me on to AKCT if I recall correctly. Quit just blatantly lieing about that too. Where did I say that you voted for him first? I didn't. You suggested it. Here is your suggestion On January 06 2012 08:07 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I'm here. however I have to leave soon. Probulous sense were the only two active are you willing to go on to AKCT? I'd rather get a lynch then none and we seem to be the only two willing to switch. On January 06 2012 08:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Probulous please read my question, as I have to leave really quickly and want your take on this. Unless you tell me otherwise I'm going to move my vote over to AKCT when I leave because a lynch is better then no-lynch. and here is my vote On January 06 2012 08:15 Probulous wrote: I prefer Cephiro but if you are leaving than I guess so. ##vote A Killer Cuppa Tea I suggested a No-lynch was worse then a lynch and you agreed. This was solid reasoning, quit taking good reasoning and saying it wasn't and it makes me scum. I had a reason to switch from Cephiro, I still felt he was mafia but his posts had thrown me. I needed more time to evaluate his defense because it rang true to me. I had both pegged as scum and so when evidence arose that Cephiro might not be scum, I switched. You still believed Cephiro was more likely to be scum than Cats but you suggest we switch to avoid a no-lynch? We still had time and votes available. I admit I should not have switched so easily, it was a bad move and I have explained that, but you haven't. Why would you give up your case against Cephiro so easily? And trust me, I'm trying my best to Prove that Ceph is scum. Now, when he looks more like town and you look like mafia  You earlier posted how you didn't notice when everyone just jumped onto A Killer Cuppa Tea that you should have stopped the train on him and known he wasn't scum. How do you not notice it happening to me now? Suspiciously Hippo or some one like Cats/Jitsu will change there vote on me at the end and voila everyone just kills off the townie and no one is at fault. The difference is that Day 1 AKCT was NOT my number 1 scum read, he was number 2. Don't worry, when you die I will go look through people's reasoning for their vote. But right now I have to get you lynched, because I believe you are scum and that you have potential to weasel your way out of getting lynched. Cats does not. | ||
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On January 09 2012 09:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote: You say " I had a reason to switch from Cephiro, I still felt he was mafia but his posts had thrown me. I needed more time to evaluate his defense because it rang true to me. I had both pegged as scum and so when evidence arose that Cephiro might not be scum, I switched. You still believed Cephiro was more likely to be scum than Cats but you suggest we switch to avoid a no-lynch? We still had time and votes available. I admit I should not have switched so easily, it was a bad move and I have explained that, but you haven't. Why would you give up your case against Cephiro so easily? " Several people had already said that they were going to be gone for the rest of the day and coudln't change there vote. At the time if you remember there were maybe 3-4 people even online at the time. I never "gave up my case" but I did cause the lynch of CM because I was sure it was either that or No-lynch. Which was the RIGHT decision." There were five people who voted (including me, excluding Ceph) after you suggested the switch. The fact that you just accepted you could not convince either Blurry, AKCT or Gonz to switch to Cephiro to prevent a no-lynch is damning. You didn't even try! This reasoning is abusrd, your contradicting yourself as well. you say "I should not have switched so easily, it was a bad move and I have explained that, but you havn't." when I have in fact. Bah! Your reasoning is that you wanted to prevent a no-lynch. Well as above five people (including me) switched after you suggested it. That means you actually needed two other people to vote and you could have got Cephiro lynched. Of course we don't know if this was possible or whether those that voted for AKCT would vote for Ceph because you gave up so easily. I did too but that because I thought Cephiro might be town, you gave to prevent a no-lynch. But I was the first to post a full case and vote for him. Don't try and pretend that I wasn't the first to actively push for his lynch. I was the one who did that, not you. You "leaned" on him remember? I said "Notice" I didn't even say Lean or actively push for a lynch. If I get lynched here because of this faulty logic I'm just gonna sit and laugh at this for a while. This is so messed up. The implication is the same. Until I posted my case Cephiro was not on the chopping block. You tried to make it look like you were the one going after him. | ||
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If town gets fucked over because of lurkers I will be pissed. On January 09 2012 07:44 GreYMisT wrote: Vote count: Liquid`Sheth (4) : Probulous, Gonzaw, Blurry, Cephiro CatsnHats (2): Jitsu, Liquid`Sheth Blurry (1): CatsnHats With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch. the day ends in ~2 hours and 20 minutes. I assume Jitsu has left the thread? If not you better switch to Sheth cause we are not lynching Cats today. That means that if it stays this way we end up with a no-lynch because of lurkers  If they don't vote I will be requesting a mafia ban because this shit is ridiculous. | ||
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 That gives us five, fucking Hippo better fucking vote!!! | ||
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 It is pretty ridiculous that we have almost every single vote that has been validly cast on Sheth (except for Cats vote for Blurry) and we still only just reach majority. This is how lurkers kill a game. | ||
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Maybe chat after the game. Thanks for playing! | ||
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We have recently removed one of the mafia besmirching this town. In order to help remove the rest, it would be great if you could read the thread carefully and make a real effort to be active. Lurkers almost screwed us over yesterday, we don't want that happening again. | ||
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On January 09 2012 10:46 CatsnHats wrote: Holy shit mass town replacement. @Town: You don't think Sheth would've let Xeris and Gretorp be inactive if they were mafia, do you? He didn't. He explicitly said he tried to contact them. Anyway he could have done that if he was town so that says nothing. However his insistence that Xeris was town despite Xeris addint nothing to the thread adds to my suspicion of Xeris. My last two mafia reads right now Xeris and Cats. I will be looking into the remaining filters and again re-evaluating my reads. | ||
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How do we tell who is scum amongst the lurkers? We had Xeris (kronhjort), Gretorp (Paperscraps), Blurry and Hippo (Bkrow) all posting nothing that really identifies themselves as town. I am happy to aim for a lynch in one of these four. I highly doubt all remaining mafia were in there but at least one is. Xeris (kronhjort) Besides the case presented by Gonz against Xeris, Sheth's insistance that he is town is pretty damning. I still don't believe that Sheth had any real reason to believe Xeris was more town than Gretorp. He has played mafia with both of them but was certain that Xeris was REALLY town. Gretorp (Paperscraps) There is nothing to analyse here. Besides saying he will provide analysis and then didn't, we have nothing on him. By signing up to this game he was promising to post which he didn't so he wasn't really good at keeping promises. Doesn't mean he is mafia, or town. Hence nothing. Blurry Oh sheepy sheepy sheep. You would be in my sights if not for this post On January 05 2012 08:28 Blurry wrote:+ Show Spoiler + About me being inactive: Sorry,I've been out all day since I'm on vacation in Montreal, and while it says I'm from Switzerland I recently moved to USA (EST) and have neglected to change my profile because I'm a little bit homesick+lazy. Anyways: back to the game, 1: Cookiemaker AnxiousHippo raised a very good point about Cookiemakers most recent post in his stating that trust has been developing amongst certain townies without providing examples. There was no reason for him to say this other than to try and fluff up his posts. Right now he seems scummy to me. 2: Sheth Theres one post by him that caught my attention: Jitsu, we've played before and you probably know my scum read and I know your town read This for me could mean one of two things: A. A subtle claim to not being scum based on the logic that Jitsu would know immediately. Or B. I will be able to tell whether or not Jitsu is or is not scum. Other than this he has been aggressive in terms of trying to get people on the defensive (CatsnHats) which I like as holes will show in peoples stories. Right now I'm feeling like he would be town rather than scum but I think time will tell. 3: AnxiousHippo Cites his inexperience as a way out of having to provide much analysis but also hasn't said anything too scummy. I'm feeling neutral. 4: Cephiro Provided a lot of good points and has contributed a good deal to the discussion. I don't think think Mafia would be leading the discussion like he has been, especially at this level. Definitely leaning towards town on him. 5: Tunkeg Tries to get everybody to contribute which I like. Is very clear in his stance which is another good thing. Leaning towards town on him. 6: Jitsu I'm getting a town vibe from him as well as he asked for someones opinion on himself. This could however be a clever mafia play to try and discover where the holes in his play are. Leaning towards town as he has been pressuring people to contribute. On January 05 2012 08:51 Blurry wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Part 2: (taking a long time to write this) I know I originally wanted to not lynch somebody but the benefits of information make it a more appealing option and I feel like we have some solid candidates 7: Xeris Has contributed absolutely nothing other than his stance against a lynch today. No analysis or contribution. Leaning on Scum. 8: Gretorp Has also not contributed anything + no stance on any issue presented. Unless he posts something meaningful in the next day he will get my vote. Leaning heavily on scum. 9: Gonzaw Likes to pressure people and prod them for feedback. Also posted his thoughts and took a clear stance on issues. Leaning on town. 10: Me I haven't contributed much other than the Roleblocker thing but I will stand by that. If someone gets role blocked they should immediately say it. The more information the better, and it would be risky for a mafia to claim being role blocked if it gets revealed that there really isn't he is automatically implicated. So guys, if you get role blocked: make sure you tell us. 11: Probulous Another discussion leader. Has been active in contributing and putting pressure on people (catsnhats). Leaning on town for him. 12: CatsNHats Although he may have flip flopped positions early in the game I still feel like he is town as he has not shied away from speaking his mind on who he thinks may be scum. We should pressure him but my stance on him is neutral. Ugh... I don't feel like I added too much with that so I'll go back over everything and post my overall feeling for the game so far. This was pretty early in the thread and his town reads are Cephiro, Tunkeg, Jitsu, Gonzaw and myself. That is five people who are pretty much confirmed town in my eyes. He also notes Sheth's bad post and stands by his postition about announcing whether you have been role blocked. All of this is good. The problem is that since then he has gone off the rails. He doesn't post and when he does he sheeps people. He is my least likely candidate but I will be watching him like a hawk and will reread his filter again before night ends. Hippo (Bkrow) I originally had hippo pegged as a newbie. He asked obvious questions (roleblocking), explained my bad pun to Cephiro and specifically told the thread to move on from the no-lynch discussions. Unfortunately he had a terrible reason for voting for AKCT and then disapeared from the thread. Bk seems to have started well but unfortunately has to work hard to remove the suspicion from Hippo. In summary out of those I think Xeris (kronhjort) is the most likely scum but I cannot be sure. What do the rest of you think? | ||
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I seriously doubt we will all be alive in the morning. So please post any analysis or ideas you may have before night ends. I will have another re-read (I should be able to quote this thing by now) and post my updated reads just before the day post. @Bk, good start now find us some scum  | ||
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It has been 20 hours since replacement and kronhjort hasn't posted and all that Paperscraps has posted is a couple of welcome lines and "I seem to be leaning a bit toward scum on blurry and xeris (kronhjort). I can't stay up too late tonight due to school in the morning. I plan on providing some analysis and reads tomorrow." @Ceph, I am still waiting on your reads. @Jitsu I am assuming you are sticking with Cats and Blurry? | ||
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