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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 14 2012 19:34 GMT
#955
EBWOP: My last remark their is sarcasm. I should have made that clear.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 14 2012 20:14 GMT
#956
Some remarks before I leave for work here soon. I will be back at 5:30pm(pst) to see the aftermath. Looking forward to see how this all plays out.

@bkrow:
I am not worried that town is going to get scum today by lynching Cats. There is a ton of evidence against Cats and gonzaw. You seem like a logical person from your filter. Just use logic and think for yourself. Town will be victorious.

Note:
On January 14 2012 05:19 CatsnHats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
##Vote Paperscraps

If he flips green and Cats is alive in the morning.... I'll vote for him and won't change my vote no matter what.

I do this only because you've picked up your play and you finally stand by your case. I hope I am doing right in trusting you.


Ceph, I'm asking you to put your trust in me again. Think of me as Cats, the active contributor and analyzer of late, not Cats, the newb wishy-washy trash player of the early game.


CatsnHats first plea for Cephiro to "trust" in him, but no real proof/analysis to back it up.

On January 15 2012 04:02 CatsnHats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 17:09 bkrow wrote:
As explained earlier this is all happening at a pretty poor time; any day during this week would have been perfect but this weekend is going to be hectic.

Basically, my thoughts come down to this. We have the following list

Paperscraps
CatsnHats
Cephiro
Gonzaw

From that above list 2 are scum and 2 are town. There was a considerable case mounted against Paper prior to Blurry's fuck up and i believe he most likely would have been lynched if not for the worst role claim in history. I have not forgotten about that, nor do i believe that it would be the wrong choice to lynch Paper.

However, both Jitsu and Prob have suggested Gonz as a viable lynch target. His general posting attitude and demeanour is not very town like as it is very aggressive. The consolation is that this brings a lot of attention to his posts which is not ideal if he was mafia.

Paper launched an offensive against Gonz; so if he is scum, it is likely that Gonz is not scum
Cats launched an attack against Paper; so same logic as above

I read through Ceph's filter and i honestly think the kid is a townie based on his posts; so now this just puts me in a position of Paper and Cats being scum, which i don't think is likely based on the above.

I think lynching Paper is our best bet at the moment - the lynch on Blurry REALLY fucked us up; lynching Paper gives us a lot of useful information on Gonz and Cats.


Please stick with this bkrow. Lynching Paperscraps today is the only way I can see the town winning the game. It's safe to assume you'll be nightkilled because you are the only confirmed town. Lynching Paperscraps tonight would leave Gonzaw, Cephiro, and myself. I can defend myself in that situation because Cephiro thinks Gonzaw is also mafia. If we lynch me tonight, it's game over. If we lynch gonzaw, Cephiro and Paperscraps will blindly lynch me (I wouldn't be able to defend myself, they ,especially Ceph, wouldn't listen) on D5. Lynching Paperscraps is the only way we can win. Paper flipping red would make Cephiro open his mind at least a little, otherwise it's over. I know this is a risk, bkrow. But remember Probulous's trust in me being town and how close we were to lynching Paperscraps on D3.

Changing my vote again since this is the only way we can win.
##Unvote: gonzaw
##Vote: Paperscraps


CatsnHats second plea for you "trust" in him with no real proof/analysis for why.

You hold all the power bkrow! I won't be around to change my vote after this to gonzaw if you were leaning more that direction. Sorry you are in this position. Either I die or CatsnHats does. I believe both Cephiro and I have made compelling arguments against CatsnHats, so your choice shouldn't be too hard. Choose wisely.

@gonzaw:
I just wanted to say that the anger in your posts should be avoided in the future. What am I to think of some ones state of mind when they make a post full of cursing, CAPS, weird spacing and general hostility. Anger leads to irrational thinking. This nullifies anything you say.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 15 2012 02:05 GMT
#1024
WELL PLAYED CEPHIRO AND GONZAW. GG guys. This was a lot of fun. I will definitely be signing up for future games.

I was thinking at work about the Cephiro + Gonzaw combo. How if they decided in the QT before hand that Cephiro would try and gain town cred and gonzaw would just post a bunch of non-sense as a smokescreen. The thing is this is all speculative.
Dang I really wish I didn't have to work, because I definitely would have posted more on it. The more I thought about how gonzaw was basically bussing himself by posting nonsense made me think that was his tactic all along as scum to get town confused.

Cephiro played very well though. One odd thing about Ceph's filter is the lack of communication between him and Gonzaw almost all game. Then when he posted on Cats after I made a pretty strong case against gonzaw, that struck me as odd, but I thought Cats was mafia. Thus I just dismissed the issue, which was a huge mistake. I didn't care who we lynched out of the two.

Then bkrow comes and drops the ball completely at the end of the game, but this overall was a great learning experience. I'm just glad I wasn't the reason town lost.

In hindsight I wish I would have pushed Cephiro harder. He stated in the beginning he was good at mind games. I should have been more open-minded. I should have been more vigilant in pushing everyone.

GG again to all participants! Hope to play with you guys again soon!

GreYMisT: You hosting any games in the near future?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
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