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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 23 2011 05:16 GMT
#761
As for the RoL shot, I don't really mind it. At least it punishes anyone who thinks they can get by with inactivity the entire day.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 23 2011 05:17 GMT
#762
Here's something too. I bet that GM doesn't die, RoL doesn't die, and he claims RB. Why would he shoot a lurker with one post when he suicides if he misses? That's taking a big chance to kill a lurker who may or may not be scum. Of all the players who were actually active, there's sure to be some of the scumteam. Therefore, there's people with a lot more information from which to draw a good read. Why shoot a lurker who it's hard to get a read on?

This makes sense if you know there won't be a shot and you'll claim RB. A townie who dies if he misses would want to take the best shot with the best chance of hitting scum, not gamble.

I hope I don't look like a retard when the day post comes.
you gotta dance
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 05:12:47
December 23 2011 05:19 GMT
#763
[image loading]

Day 2


SamuelLJackson's attempt to drink soup through one head and spit it out through the other backfired.
Jackal58 was flattened out by a bowling ball.
VisceraEyes found out that drinking hot soup out of a wine glass produces disastrous results.
GMarshal found out that it was a bad idea to enlist in the Nazi army.
Palmar was ejected into outer space and asphixiated.




Day 2 is extended by 24 hours and ends at Sun Dec 25 05:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 23 2011 05:23 GMT
#764
GM, you make no sense.

Also Palmar was weird. SK (Non-BP?) or traitor, or something.

RoL was protted, or GM was RBed. There are similar role-names that punish claiming. Don't counter-claim based on names.

BBL.
you gotta dance
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:23 GMT
#765
On December 23 2011 14:06 Foolishness wrote:
noooo not RoL! You could have shot bugs!

If I am right, he couldn't.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 23 2011 05:23 GMT
#766
Woot woot, looks like we got SOME good news at least. I'mma claim palmar's shot straight off the bat. I'm the liar vigilante and I can only kill someone if I make a case against them. My post before was not only contained a case against palmar (he misrepresented L's post) but also served to show my thoughts on him if for some reason he didn't die. I think this clears some people, specifically L.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 23 2011 05:24 GMT
#767
Well if 5 people die next night then this is lylo
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 23 2011 05:25 GMT
#768
On December 23 2011 14:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
GM, you make no sense.

Also Palmar was weird. SK (Non-BP?) or traitor, or something.

RoL was protted, or GM was RBed. There are similar role-names that punish claiming. Don't counter-claim based on names.

BBL.


SK's are usually bulletproof and given his scummy posting I'd say he's traitor rather than SK.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 23 2011 05:31 GMT
#769
1. Foolishness
2. RebirthOfLeGenD
3 .wherebugsgo
4. kitaman27
5. syllogism
8. Liquid`Sheth
10. L
11. Mr. Wiggles
13. Chezinu
14. chaoser
15. bumatlarge
16. BloodyC0bbler
18. GGQ
19. prplhz

4 mafia/10 townies


6. SamuelLJackson (sandroba/curu hybrid) DEAD
7. Jackal58 DEAD
9. GMarshal DEAD
12. Palmar DEAD
17. LSB DEAD
20. VisceraEyes
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 23 2011 05:32 GMT
#770
RE: Return

Alright, just got back from hours of crazy monkeysex. The night so far's been a gigantic, terrible cesspool as far as discussion quality goes. This is important:

Compare page 35, a typical night page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295384&currentpage=35
With
Page 17, a typical day page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295384&currentpage=17

I'm going to go back and write up a list of who pushed for who from day 1, because if night 1 is any indication, there's going to be a flood of shitty one liner posts and we're not going to be getting anywhere otherwise.

RE: Daypost
Just refreshed
Oh, I was right about Palmar? Figures. Good lord I'm good at this game. Some notes:

GM seems to have lied about his target in order to lessen the chance that his shot would be medic'd/intercepted/roleblocked/whatevered. His target was probably one of his greens to throw off suspicion, so he probably didn't shoot Jackal. Palmar's shot was claimed.

This means GM either shot VisceraEyes or SamuelLJackson

I'm gonna go back and look through his post list to see if he gave any indication of suspicion with respect to either of them.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:33 GMT
#771

LSB (12): wherebugsgo, SamuelLJackson, Jackal58, BloodyC0bbler, VisceraEyes, syllogism, -VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, Palmar, Foolishness, bumatlarge, Liquid`Sheth, GMarshal, -Liquid`Sheth, GGQ, prplhz, -Foolishness, Mr. Wiggles
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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
December 23 2011 05:36 GMT
#772
[image loading]

Ver's a liar, this is what really happened.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 23 2011 05:39 GMT
#773
On December 23 2011 14:32 L wrote:
GM seems to have lied about his target in order to lessen the chance that his shot would be medic'd/intercepted/roleblocked/whatevered. His target was probably one of his greens to throw off suspicion, so he probably didn't shoot Jackal. Palmar's shot was claimed.

This means GM either shot VisceraEyes or SamuelLJackson

I'm gonna go back and look through his post list to see if he gave any indication of suspicion with respect to either of them.


If that was the case, why in the world would GM not inform us who he really shot after the 12:00 deadline? He had around 20 minutes to share who he really would have shot, during a time which the scum team wouldn't be able to change their actions. Are you purposely trying to shift focus away from RoL or something?

@RoL,did you receive any notification of receiving a hit?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:39 GMT
#774
On December 23 2011 14:32 L wrote:
RE: Return

Alright, just got back from hours of crazy monkeysex. The night so far's been a gigantic, terrible cesspool as far as discussion quality goes. This is important:

Compare page 35, a typical night page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295384&currentpage=35
With
Page 17, a typical day page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295384&currentpage=17

I'm going to go back and write up a list of who pushed for who from day 1, because if night 1 is any indication, there's going to be a flood of shitty one liner posts and we're not going to be getting anywhere otherwise.

RE: Daypost
Just refreshed
Oh, I was right about Palmar? Figures. Good lord I'm good at this game. Some notes:

GM seems to have lied about his target in order to lessen the chance that his shot would be medic'd/intercepted/roleblocked/whatevered. His target was probably one of his greens to throw off suspicion, so he probably didn't shoot Jackal. Palmar's shot was claimed.

This means GM either shot VisceraEyes or SamuelLJackson

I'm gonna go back and look through his post list to see if he gave any indication of suspicion with respect to either of them.

I asked Ver, the timing off Gmarshal's post was at the deadline. There was no way for the mafia or medics to change actions when Gmarshal had posted that. I speculate he may have been some sort of suicide vigilante who wanted to make sure he could send out a message as he died without it affecting the game.

Read this:

So, I've sucked horribly and the fact that two of my coworkers decided not to show today really cut into my TL time. Be that as it may, a list of my reads, for reference if I misfire, and for reference if I hit. Consider it my apology for not being able to crank out a full fledged analytic post full of pictures. If I live, well then, this should be something to hold me to.

He's apologizing in case he dies. I am guessing he has some sort of conscience where if he doesn't target a mafia then he dies. This post reads like a last will and testament because GM knew he was going to die. This could also explain why I didn't die or get notified of getting hit at all. His hit is only successful if its on a mafia, or he dies instead. This would also fit nicely with the theme of the game too.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:40 GMT
#775
On December 23 2011 14:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 14:32 L wrote:
GM seems to have lied about his target in order to lessen the chance that his shot would be medic'd/intercepted/roleblocked/whatevered. His target was probably one of his greens to throw off suspicion, so he probably didn't shoot Jackal. Palmar's shot was claimed.

This means GM either shot VisceraEyes or SamuelLJackson

I'm gonna go back and look through his post list to see if he gave any indication of suspicion with respect to either of them.


If that was the case, why in the world would GM not inform us who he really shot after the 12:00 deadline? He had around 20 minutes to share who he really would have shot, during a time which the scum team wouldn't be able to change their actions. Are you purposely trying to shift focus away from RoL or something?

@RoL,did you receive any notification of receiving a hit?

I never received any notification.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:42 GMT
#776
Oh and this part.

Oh, I guess I should announce that I'm shooting RoL. I'm not having a repeat of TMM where he gets away with being busy till the endgame. If I'm wrong then on my head be it (and by that I mean I'll be horribly dead). I know there isn't strong analysis supporting it, but I just spent 3 1/2 hours writing this post/coming up with who to shoot, and I just don't have time to flesh out a fully detailed analysis on anyone before the deadline.

That would also explain why GM released all his reads. If you believe my analysis of this, then congrats. I am now confirmed town by GM's death, or at the very least, confirmed not mafia. If only he said specifically how his role worked, oh well.
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 23 2011 05:48 GMT
#777
I think RoL needs to go back and read the thread...
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 23 2011 05:49 GMT
#778
I'm gonna go back and look through his post list to see if he gave any indication of suspicion with respect to either of them.


RE: GM target.

5 people died. 1 was claimed to be a hit. 1 was GM. 3 remain.
GM lied about RoL who he had listed as red, which means he didn't actually think RoL was red. The reds in GM's list are likely chaff.
The remaining 3 are
Jackal - Black
Hydra - Green
Visc - Green

Since the list seems to have been cover for his shot due to the lie it would seem that he'd cloak his shot in green. This leaves Hydra and Visc.

Anti-Hydra posts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12841577
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12841591
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12844245
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12859517

Abrupt about face:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12859529

Single post besides his end game list involving Visc:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12862029

Only it isn't involving Visc. It's just a reply to a prod from Visc.

GM indicates in his last post that his push against hydra was a fake:

As much as my subconscious would like to believe he is mafia, the fact that my lolworthy argument about hydras got something like 4 votes on him, combined with his generally town seeming behavior


This leads me to believe that he shot Visc for calling him out.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 23 2011 05:49 GMT
#779
On December 23 2011 14:48 Foolishness wrote:
I think RoL needs to go back and read the thread...

I am going to now actually, but what am I missing?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 23 2011 05:56 GMT
#780
I don't understand.

Oh, I guess I should announce that I'm shooting RoL. I'm not having a repeat of TMM where he gets away with being busy till the endgame. If I'm wrong then on my head be it (and by that I mean I'll be horribly dead). I know there isn't strong analysis supporting it, but I just spent 3 1/2 hours writing this post/coming up with who to shoot, and I just don't have time to flesh out a fully detailed analysis on anyone before the deadline.


GM specifically said he shot RoL at exactly:

GMarshal United States. Dec 23 2011 00:00


There is no reason for him to lie at all. Why do you think he misrepresented his hit L?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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