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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 23 2011 00:54 GMT
#721
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 23 2011 00:59 GMT
#722
On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?

I've seen BC do some dumb stuff as town, so ya it's in the realm of possibilities.
Life can only kill you once.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#723
On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?

No idea, but I doubt his town play would be this bad. If he is town he'll improve, if not then I don't see why I should think that he's town.

Who are you looking into right now?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 23 2011 01:05 GMT
#724
I'm looking at everybody that listened to me and voted LSB.
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 23 2011 01:09 GMT
#725
On December 23 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?

I've seen BC do some dumb stuff as town, so ya it's in the realm of possibilities.


yeah, as town. I'm pretty sure one of the best scum players on this forum wouldn't fall to basic scumtells that prplhz pointed out.

one of prpl's points was that "maybe BC doesn't enjoy playing scum," which is just ludicrous, given his reputation.

What's bothering me more is not that prpl made the case, since prpl probably doesn't know BC's play that well, but the fact that Palmar said he agreed with everything he said. That's weird.


On December 23 2011 10:03 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?

No idea, but I doubt his town play would be this bad. If he is town he'll improve, if not then I don't see why I should think that he's town.

Who are you looking into right now?


IMO from reputation and what I know from reading past games BC's town play is not nearly as good as his scum play (no offense, BC)

I'll be posting my thoughts closer to deadline. I doubt I'll be shot, but I don't want to influence scum hits by calling my suspicions now.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 01:13 GMT
#726
Jackal, it would be easier if you looked at anyone who WASN'T on LSB last night bro - it's clear from the shenanigans that scum were playing for a no-lynch toward the end, so I'll be the majority of the scum-team was NOT on LSB.

My 2 cents.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 01:14 GMT
#727
be = bet at the end....my money would be on it if I had any.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 23 2011 01:18 GMT
#728
On December 23 2011 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jackal, it would be easier if you looked at anyone who WASN'T on LSB last night bro - it's clear from the shenanigans that scum were playing for a no-lynch toward the end, so I'll be the majority of the scum-team was NOT on LSB.

My 2 cents.

Makes no sense Visc. We just looked at that scenario hard in our last game. We only pushed a no lynch when Annul was the target. Lynching a townie is the superior option for scum. Not a no lynch. Scum love when townies push townies.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 01:23 GMT
#729
So you don't think leaving LSB alive and pushing him tomorrow would have been a viable play? That's what I would have done as scum, seeing how hard townies were pushing townies. That suspicion would still be there tomorrow, and a no-lynch denies town information.

But I see what you're saying. It also makes sense considering that the longer the game goes, the harder it is for scum to hide.

Be that as it may, I'm looking OFF the wagon, so I'll tell you what I find.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
December 23 2011 01:36 GMT
#730
Why don't you let BC defend himself WBG? Do you have a problem with him being forced to do something this game?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 23 2011 01:37 GMT
#731
On December 23 2011 10:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
So you don't think leaving LSB alive and pushing him tomorrow would have been a viable play? That's what I would have done as scum, seeing how hard townies were pushing townies. That suspicion would still be there tomorrow, and a no-lynch denies town information.

But I see what you're saying. It also makes sense considering that the longer the game goes, the harder it is for scum to hide.

Be that as it may, I'm looking OFF the wagon, so I'll tell you what I find.

By all means do. It's probably a safe bet they weren't all on it. But as soon as LSB claimed he had a gun no scum would have left him.
Life can only kill you once.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 23 2011 01:44 GMT
#732
On December 23 2011 09:20 syllogism wrote:
Bum you never really explained why you found LSB scummy. The closest thing for explaining your vote was when you said you liked GM's claim more than LSB's and a bit earlier said "LSB has been spouting nonsense", which are both quite poor justifications for voting someone. As far as I can tell you didn't even state that you agreed with someone else's analysis on him. Actually don't think you explained why you found Palmar or foolishness scummy either.


This contextual stuff is getting old bro. I liked what WBG had pointed out about LSB. I would have still kept my vote on LSB if neither he nor GM mentioned anythng about their roles. I wanted him lynched before that, the Vig thing was just a bonus. This is day 1 second guessing, my reads can't be that great initially. I did say I agreed with WBG. Palmar had posted nothing and continues to say my posting sucks. Go figure why I thin he's scummy. Unlike Palmar, foolishness has done genuinely nothing. I took some info from the palmar/L dispute and wrote things in my diary. Foolishness has a nice blank page, which is always bad.

Are you guys just gonna hide behind questions this whole game? This stuff would be the easiest garbage to hide behind, being the asker and the answerer. I will answer anything, but don't make it your "thing", I don't think it's as useful as you think it is.

Chezinu, Phase Two has commenced. LSB was more of a best case scenario, so we will continue as planned. I have some individuals that I wrote in blood and others I wrote little hearts next to. I will reserve it to initiate Phase Three, but I don't feel fully prepared. Also, you mentioned GGQ and voted samuel. I would like to see a continued effort on both these fronts if you found either to be fruitful. Over and out.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#733
On December 23 2011 10:36 Palmar wrote:
Why don't you let BC defend himself WBG? Do you have a problem with him being forced to do something this game?


nope, I just have a problem with bad arguments.

prplhz's arguments for BC being scum are bad, but his effort is town-like.

Your arguments have been bad and your effort is not town-like. You agree with bad arguments for BC being scum despite knowing BC better than prplhz. What gives?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 03:10 GMT
#734
WBG, what of prplhz' arguments did you find bad? Which scum-tells are you referencing when you say 'wouldn't fall to basic scum-tells'?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 23 2011 03:12 GMT
#735
the fact that he's lurking, the fact that prplhz thinks BC wouldn't like being scum, the fact that the rest of prplhz's post is mostly just reiterating and paraphrasing what BC said?

Also, what does excess hostility have to do with someone's alignment?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 03:26 GMT
#736
Here's the thing about BC lurking: as town, BC lurks like a bitch...much like most of the other seasoned vets here. As town he has a tendancy to pop in though and throw in pro-town nuggets of truth or berate bad play. This game however, he really only pops in to defend himself. There's nothing pro-town about anything he's said this game...and the only time he's berated bad play was when he pointed out that Palmar made a post pregame about playing up the importance of good play, yet hadn't been playing well up to that point.

Here's my problem with that though: BC had literally done NOTHING himself. Like, yeah, okay, BC lurks. He's like to do it regardless of his alignment (see: vet meta)...but his play had been nothing to write home about either. The difference is that Palmar actually had a post in-thread to reference regarding this particular subject to call him out over. All it serves to do is make Palmar look suspicious, because he didn't point out any of Palmar's posts to back up his point, and he didn't vote for Palmar.

I agree with one thing though - hostility isn't indicative of alignment alone. What's indicative of alignment is the context surrounding the hostility. There's nothing in the context of BC's cursing or use of the term 'asshatery' that indicates scum OR town to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 03:31 GMT
#737
Don't discount things just because you think someone's too good to do that. You're wrong. He's every bit as good as his reputation upholds, but that doesn't make him infallible and it doesn't make him impossible to catch. You're suggesting that he simply WON'T do things that scum get caught for. If that's true, then scum are guaranteed to win every game he rolls scum in. It's just not true. Here's an example: scum have to push bad lynches during the day if they want to win. Just because BC is good doesn't mean that he won't push bad lynches. He HAS to if he hopes to win.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 23 2011 03:42 GMT
#738
at what point did BC pop in "just to defend himself"?

All I remember is him calling out Palmar on bad play, not posting to defend himself. This is a legitimate question (posting from phone atm) though, I'm just wondering where you're getting this.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 23 2011 03:44 GMT
#739
What are you guys even debating about x.x
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 23 2011 03:45 GMT
#740
He surrounds it with "Defense of GM" and "Weak Vote of LSB", but this is the post I'm referencing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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