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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2011 20:59 GMT
#221
I noticed Jackal's tone as well, which in addition to what you said doesn't fit his typical tendency to just tunnel palmar.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 04 2011 21:01 GMT
#222
On December 05 2011 05:58 Radfield wrote:
Drazerk, what do you think of Jackal? What do you think of Visceraeyes? What do you think of Risen?


Null tell
Leaning on scum
Dislike the fact he is buddying me but he seems innocent enough at the moment
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 04 2011 21:02 GMT
#223
Care to expand on those thoughts Drazerk? Or feel free to pick your own topic.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 04 2011 21:04 GMT
#224
im still waiting for purple haze to address his blue claim. if i saw it, mafia surely saw it too. and i saw it immediately. ;\
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 04 2011 21:07 GMT
#225
On December 05 2011 05:56 Radfield wrote:


New discussion topic:

+ Show Spoiler [ Jackal's first post] +
On December 04 2011 23:57 Jackal58 wrote:
Good morning. Role confirmed. Game on.

Random lynch on day 1 seems counterproductive to me. On day anything really. What would you perceive as a benefit to doing that Palmar?

Posting lists right out of the box about players who are likely on the scum team due to the hosts balancing reminds me a bit of Zodiac lists that have been posted in previous games. More often than not those lists were posted by scum. At least in the games I've seen them used in. You scum Palmar?

The only way to 100% establish your innocence is to die.


The last few games I've been trying to watch how scum players enter the thread. It's something I've always found a little difficult as scum. You have to somehow establish yourself in the thread, while simultaneously not draw attention... or at least that is the inclination.

This post jumped out at me, and I'm wondering if it jumped out at anyone else. The tone, the touching on every subject, the shifting of attention back onto Palmar(twice).

Anyone else or am I seeing things?


Not to be funny by jumping in after you talk about jumping in but I have to say I agree with lists like that are not useful. From a pure game design / theory point if players are choosen for roles like that then you quickly set it up for the town to reading the mod to win instead of the town. That isn't the goal of the mod so that is a fallacy that either would be avoided or will in the future.

From a more factual point of view, in my experience, mods will Eng the role/player list and if they want to tailor it they Eng several times until they like it.

From a personal philosophy point of view I don't trust or even really care about approaches like this because they aren't based on anything a town player should have via confirmed info but is something scum could know. There is just so little chance for a town player to post trully useful lists like that day 1. It is just something to publicly ignore.

Windows 60% done and then I can read the thread.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2011 21:07 GMT
#226
If you think it's a blue game, why are you highlighting it? I think it can be interpreted in two ways, one of which being that he is green and "our" job is the job of every townie, that is to say lynching scum based on analysis rather than roles. That's what I thought when I read it anyway.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2011 21:07 GMT
#227
EBWOP: blue claim
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:08 GMT
#228
radfield what do you think of palmar, you seem to have ignored my case on him which is the only coherent case in the thread so far.

what do people think of corrupt stating "so many suspicious people already" and then when asked who, stalled for a while before only listing 1/2 players?

Zephirdd's non vote then vote after i pushed him also strikes me as scummy.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 04 2011 21:09 GMT
#229
What you saw was ambiguous annul and can be taken two different ways:

"Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do OUR job" The "our" in this case can mean "the townies". As in, waiting for the power roles to do the townies job for them(scum hunting).

or

"Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do OUR job" It can mean what you are implying: having townies sitting around waiting for the blues to do their job(night actions).

Given the context of his statement, it seemed apparent he meant the first meaning, and was not blue claiming at all.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 04 2011 21:10 GMT
#230
im highlighting it because it was blatantly obvious to me upon reading it which means that its likely to be blatantly obvious to at least one red player as well.

in case it wasnt also blatantly obvious to every player, it needs to be highlighted, since nobody is going to be signaling to a clueless town player that this was a "blueslip" (as in "scumslip" but for being blue) in the same way that a clueless red player can be signaled to it by a non clueless red teammate.

people NEED to be aware that he blueslipped there. it changes everything.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 04 2011 21:10 GMT
#231
On December 05 2011 06:02 Radfield wrote:
Care to expand on those thoughts Drazerk? Or feel free to pick your own topic.


Really I just want jackal to post a bit more before I get a read on him.

I really don't have that much on VE bar the fact he is Sheeping red

I generally dislike anyone who agrees with me too much. It's a habit I got from earlier games but people wanting me alive generally turn out to be scum ( Unless I've claimed mason or done something extremely stupid )
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#232
On December 05 2011 01:38 annul wrote:
"Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job"

whoaaaaaaaaaa what

i believe what he meant to say was something along the lines of

or does town just sit around and wait for power roles to do our(town's) job(finding scum) for us(town)
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#233
yeah ve buddying me is weird, but he's right in that i do have a good case.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 04 2011 21:12 GMT
#234
On December 05 2011 06:10 annul wrote:
im highlighting it because it was blatantly obvious to me upon reading it which means that its likely to be blatantly obvious to at least one red player as well.

in case it wasnt also blatantly obvious to every player, it needs to be highlighted, since nobody is going to be signaling to a clueless town player that this was a "blueslip" (as in "scumslip" but for being blue) in the same way that a clueless red player can be signaled to it by a non clueless red teammate.

people NEED to be aware that he blueslipped there. it changes everything.


It wasn't a blue slip, or at least I didn't read it as a blue slip.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 04 2011 21:12 GMT
#235
radfield: grammatically speaking i do not think the first sentence makes sense, although i see what you are arguing.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 04 2011 21:14 GMT
#236
On December 05 2011 06:08 redFF wrote:
radfield what do you think of palmar, you seem to have ignored my case on him which is the only coherent case in the thread so far.

what do people think of corrupt stating "so many suspicious people already" and then when asked who, stalled for a while before only listing 1/2 players?

Zephirdd's non vote then vote after i pushed him also strikes me as scummy.


I'm waiting for Palmar to respond, and to play more. I don't mind your pressure though.

Corrupt looks terrible after that exchange, almost too terrible I'll admit that I'm not really sure what make of it just yet. If we had no other good majority candidates, he would be an excellent fall back at this point.

Zephirdd's vote was humorously scummy, but I think it was done in good faith. He's on the good side of the line for the moment.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 04 2011 21:17 GMT
#237
A no Lynch is awful for the reasons stated AND because it makes reading who voted who and why type info null.

We need everyone to vote and explain every reason they have for their vote because this the one thing Mafai have to lie about everyday. Even bussing is a lie in a sense.

Voting no Lynch is voting to hide relationships, motives, and information.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 04 2011 21:17 GMT
#238
On December 05 2011 06:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 06:02 Radfield wrote:
Care to expand on those thoughts Drazerk? Or feel free to pick your own topic.


Really I just want jackal to post a bit more before I get a read on him.

I really don't have that much on VE bar the fact he is Sheeping red

I generally dislike anyone who agrees with me too much. It's a habit I got from earlier games but people wanting me alive generally turn out to be scum ( Unless I've claimed mason or done something extremely stupid )



Fair enough. I was intending to wait for a few more Jackal posts before writing that, but the thread seemed like it could use a kick in the pants.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 04 2011 21:20 GMT
#239
On December 05 2011 06:08 redFF wrote:
radfield what do you think of palmar, you seem to have ignored my case on him which is the only coherent case in the thread so far.

what do people think of corrupt stating "so many suspicious people already" and then when asked who, stalled for a while before only listing 1/2 players?

Zephirdd's non vote then vote after i pushed him also strikes me as scummy.


I don't like his answers at all. It's like he only answers exactly what he was asked for, and then finds a reason to lurk away(his last post exactly). If we are pushing for a day 1 lynch and there is no better target, I'd say we should lynch him. He is either bad newbie scum, or really really really bad newbie town. I'm inclined to the former.

And for the record, I'd have voted him right after his first answer if you hadn't convinced me to vote on him beforehand. It's just that I don't feel very comfortable to do that, but it's not like it was a really big deal anyway.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:20 GMT
#240
On December 05 2011 06:17 vaderseven wrote:
A no Lynch is awful for the reasons stated AND because it makes reading who voted who and why type info null.

We need everyone to vote and explain every reason they have for their vote because this the one thing Mafai have to lie about everyday. Even bussing is a lie in a sense.

Voting no Lynch is voting to hide relationships, motives, and information.


We are not even discussing nolynch until much later on in the game. It is the worst thing we can do day 1 because it gives us no information and mafia free kills. end of discussion.
no more please
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