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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On November 26 2011 07:52 Erandorr wrote: Also yes, Jay and I are, infact, the same person. Wasn't it obvious? Wow this is news to me. But quite possible at the same time. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:12 Lemonwalrus wrote: That's just it, there are 70 of them. The day ends in 6-ish hours, I intend to have the time to read the rest of it in a couple hours and make a more informed decision then, but made the above post and vote just in case something goes awry. As I said, busy weekend. But after monday afternoon I return to regular, not particularly busy walrus. Just give me a little leway till monday afternoon cobs...I'm doing my best here. Eh my issue is more the game has been up for close to three days. I am more surprised that you only read the campaign posts. I only ask that before you run off, filter sandroba's posts and my own (palmar is guarenteed mayor) and decide if you still prefer him over me. That reduces the amount of reading drastically. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On November 27 2011 05:55 prplhz wrote: Hmm, Meapak_Ziphh wrote that post so Steveling must be mafia. </Jackal58> @Toadesstern It's quite cool that you change votes all the time but you need to include more reason than "I think he's town", you kinda need to say WHY you think he is town. You see what I am getting at? yeah I talked about all of it earlier already so I figured I don't have to do another summary but probably can't ask everyone to know everything someone said by heart so here we are again: WBG: I like his attitude/the way he's posting. He's open, he's discussing everything and he's talking about details and trying to scumhunt. Also like I said earlier I don't think a mafia wbg would get as emotional (that's an euphemism) as he did the when discussing with syllo and sandro the other day. Therefore I think he's town and that's why I voted him in the first place. BC: Pretty much the same as wbg. Like the way he's posting. Everything is clear and no fluffy posts. It's just neutral and I want people to post that way as it is was easier to analyze with so many new players in this game. Palmar: He was third on my "likely town" list of those people who run for mayor. However from the very beginning I did not like the fact that so many people voted for him. Either that's a bunch of noobs who voted for him because their already was a bunch of people voteing for him ("hey this guy is first, if the majority thinks he's good and I am not understanding this wall of texts I'm probably better off voteing this guy as well") or there was a bunch of mafias who voted for him, which obviously is not a good sign. I'm guessing it's the first one. In contrary to bc and wbg he posted a lot. I thought some of it was way to fluffy. He changed that attitude a little and got more into detail as days went on. Therefore my vote for him because I was still scared as people kept saying to not vote for bc because it's an autolos. Btw I think if bc's an autolose than pretty much every scum vet as mayor is an autolose. I expect n1 to be an vet slaughterfest which will leave us with very little town-vets. But all my games so fare are minigames, so I'm not really used to saves from medics and jailers and whatnot. Can't judge how that's going to turn out Sandroba: Out of those 4 candidates he's the one I got the fewest reads on. I'm not saying my reads about wbg/bc/palmar are bound to be right but that's what I think. Sandroba however is a completly nullread for me for some reason. Therefore he's the one that's closest to a coinflip for me. Those are the 4 people I'm mainly thinking about. Kita and sinani look town to me, probably more than people like sandro and palmar but I'm opting for bc right now. If I missed something just tell me and I'll add it / him. I'm sorry I can't back these thins up with quotes. I probably could do some quotes but those would be all up for discussion and nothing certain. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:12 syllogism wrote: Palmar you've been completely absent and a lock for mayor for quite some time. You also haven't said or done anything yet that allows me to reliably determine your alignment. Moreover, it's a bit strange you got such a flood of votes while the other candidates are struggling to get over 10. If you actually read the thread, you will know (yes) that I'm town and thus your mock alarm is scummy, assuming you have already read. Do you not think me having a bunch of votes may just have something to do with me actually putting a lot of work into my campaign? And yes, I've been absent, I let people know that I unfortunately had to be out quite a bit over the past 28-ish hours. I am going out now, but will be back in 3 hours or so, and can answer some questions before I go to sleep. syllo: Who would you lynch day 1 if you were the mayor? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I don't think your campaign was good enough to warrant the flood of votes, but that may be the bandwagon effect. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On November 27 2011 05:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I won't get mayor so I can't say I will day 1 lynch either of them. If supersoft continues playing as he is I can easily see myself pushing his lynch/vig shoot him however. That's enough for me! | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:32 syllogism wrote: Possibly prpplz/decon, been rather lazy with notes/effort since I don't actually have to and it's a 80 player game I don't think your campaign was good enough to warrant the flood of votes, but that may be the bandwagon effect. Did you like my mash-together intro speech? It's actually bits and pieces from speeches by Churchill, Hitler, Arcturus Mengsk, Robespierre and Martin Luther King, slightly altered to fit mafia. Do you have a reason for those two? I am genuinely asking because as sad as it is, there has almost been no cases presented in the game. Is your reasons for prplhz mainly the fact that he flopped on his campaign? What do you think about YM? Do you think he is genuinely this afraid of playing against a scum Palmar? Do you think it makes sense for him to suddenly be willing to conditionally support me if I promise to lynch BC? | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 26 2011 21:08 vaderseven wrote: Youngminii- lol this guy is mad about losing to a specific player in the past. Classic case of it. If that isn't the case then god damn it really looks like it and wtf are you sure he isn't mad. He is either bad town or is a semi new scum and Palmer is on his scum team and this is the most epic fail of a bus I have ever seen. I don't have a formed opinion on this guy yet but he is now *'ed in my notes because I need to pay attention to his play to see wtf is going on. Is that really what you're seeing out of the situation? Why do you assume it's a bus? Are you saying that if YM were to flip scum that would somehow make it likely I am scum? Is that your simple solution to the problem? The only possible way I can see myself being wrong about youngminii is that he just decided to be a giant douchebag for no reason at all and attack me, which frankly makes no sense. But I actually feel pretty good about lynching him based on everything that has been said and done. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 26 2011 03:48 bonifaceviii wrote: Let me break it down for you: 10% veterans meta-analyzing each other based on previous games 25% veterans just plain bitching at each other for supposed uselessness or slights 50% trolling 15% newbies wondering how this is supposed to be at all fun This game is huge. It is a very difficult way of getting into mafia. The reason we focus on people we know is simply because the people we know are easier to read. But everything can later be turned into something useful. Keep posting, keep giving opinions. Things WILL change tomorrow then the discussion shifts away from the mayor candidates and to lynching scum. That's when we stop focusing so much on big names, because the new people can just as well be mafia as the big names. And yes, people troll in mafia, but remember that there is also strategical trolling going on. Everything is indicative of people's alignment, we're just not far enough into the game to read much into it yet. On November 26 2011 04:56 syllogism wrote: Excuse me? What are you pointing out? Are you accusing kurumi of changing his mind? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12447723 This is WBG's case against sandroba. It does bring up a very, very valid point. the selection of sinani206 seems really arbitrary. I mean, yes he's a useless asshole, but he's always a useless asshole, at least in my opinion. On November 26 2011 05:41 sandroba wrote: Flipping 10 poeple early is retarded as fuck, that's my point. Sinani206 is not playing his normal bad, he is INTENTIONALLY trolling and acting dumb, which is standard mafia sinani. This is incorrect, at least from my memory. I think sinani206 intentionally trolls as town too. On November 26 2011 06:49 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I hope swapping my vote like that isn't a bad thing to do. Also, RedFF didn't seem like he was going to be as active as leading candidates and I need my mayor to hold my hand and tell me what to do (not entirely true, but some direction from the guy with three votes is nice) It is nice that RedFF seems interested in keeping people posting their thoughts, though. Someone had said he was a lurker but he seems pretty active and helpful to me. Bolding this: Changing your mind is not scummy, as long as you give reasons. So don't be afraid to re-think your positions. On November 26 2011 10:47 sandroba wrote: OMG sinani, despite w/e alignment you are, you have risen to a new level of bad. At least we agree on something. On November 26 2011 11:38 LSB wrote: Hi guys, It's thanksgiving so I won't be as active, but I've replaced in. I can't find the day post x.x So I have no idea what the deadline is, so I'll just autovote annul :D Just so everyone is aware, LSB is another top player. that last post of mine was meant to be a part of this. I need to go out now, I only have about 6 pages to go. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:43 syllogism wrote: Hey Palmar are you going to vote for BC or Sandroba You mean to push them into the sheriff seat? At worst it's a scum roleblocker, but I actually don't like either of them, because they both have made mistakes in their approach. Sandroba's suggestion to lynch sinani206 is just bad, and BC's original plan with only 3 targets was very open to manipulation. I would lean towards giving BC the seat now. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:53 Palmar wrote: What are you pointing out? Are you accusing kurumi of changing his mind? He voted for sandroba and then an hour later immediately unvoted when someone made a generic request to unvote without explaining why and then even stated "finally someone with sense". Pretty obvious, no? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:47 Toadesstern wrote: palmar what are your thoughts abouth the double lynches? I will not use them day 2, but day 3-4-5-6 (day 3 is the first day any dt's might have reliable results, and because of how weird the election day is, it's also the first true followup day to proper scumhunting). ie: I want to use double lynches early, but I don't want to use them before any information is out there. I think it'd be devastating for town morale to not kill a few mafia by like day 4-5, so killing many people is good. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 27 2011 06:56 Palmar wrote: You mean to push them into the sheriff seat? At worst it's a scum roleblocker, but I actually don't like either of them, because they both have made mistakes in their approach. Sandroba's suggestion to lynch sinani206 is just bad, and BC's original plan with only 3 targets was very open to manipulation. I would lean towards giving BC the seat now. I explained why, even if you think sinani lynch was at the time a bad lynch, that still makes him more likely to be town than scum. You have to vote for sandroba, because I know you agree with the logic | ||
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