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On November 30 2011 09:46 layabout wrote:
of the likely candidates for the lynch this seems the most incriminating:



I feel that the reasoning in this post is weak. Prplhz earlier posted that he felt a lynch against Palmer was bad and told the thread the stop voting him.

he dismisses that stance by saying that he has a town read on BC and he is suspicious of Palmar so the lynch is okay. He further states that all we stand to lose with a dead Palmer is at worst 1 lynch. This assumes Palmer is town so if we kill town palmer we also lose his contributions.

the actual worst case scenario is Palmer Town BC scum, lynching Palmer would cost us a Veteran towns reads his extra votes and town would lose control of double lynching.Whatever he think BC's alignment is he cannot confirm it (if he is town) so he should consider it when looking at potential scenarios

a Town player should not miss-sell a worst case scenario it could be a mistake or it could be mafia making a claim they hope people will not investigate. He vaguely mentions lifting this from a previous post so if this is picked up upon he has pre-emptively shift blame not uncertainty but Blame. Again a town player should not be doing this when they post.This is highly suspect

he also supports this decision by saying that risen is scum so killing Palmer will cost them a KP. But a case against risen is not relevant to why palmer may or may not be scum. He is trying to make you think of unrealistic outcomes that make you feel more comfortable with lynching Palmer as oppossed to convincing you that he is scum. screams mafia agenda.

there is also no effort to analyse posts, there is a "meta" based argument that seems weak but that i cannot fully evaluate and in another post he decribes Palmer's behavior as "weird" and seems to use that as a reason.

i think this could indicate scum play
if i was trying hard to conclude that he is town then i would say he probably have strong perceptions on how other people should play and they have not matched waht is happened so he is yelling scum. he may simply have made a series of false judgements not grounded is clear reasoning.
but i feel the discrepancy between what he describes and what is actually possible and likely (numbers say 2 town is most likey we need analysis if we want to disagree)

i have clearly stated my oppositon to a Palmer lynch and similarly a BC Lynch and i feel that when addressing the issue deceit should be inexcusable.

here is an alternative perspective on ace +Palmer:

there are still people mentioning Ace and aces action's and for me this hits the nail on the head
if have tried to include room for other options because i feel reasoning like this could potentially be misleading
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"clicking spoilers is for people that care" i think ace may have been trollong and as such i would like to state that you should not be voting based on what he did.
Before Ace joined the most notable case against Palmer was YM i think we need to be very careful with using Ace's arguments against Palmer.