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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 17:56 GMT
#4161
On December 01 2011 02:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why is vader still talking?


Why would you want me not to talk?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 17:56 GMT
#4162
I did just now. I actually was thinking you were town before. You argue extensivelly about how killing palmar is a bad move. You argue extensivelly how zeks is scum. You say you thought BC was bussing palmar, but how can you come to the conclusion it was a bus if you know neither of those guys' alignment. The with one minute left on the clock you quickly switch from zeks to palmar. So desperately that you even mispell your voting shit.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#4163
I was talking in an abstract way at all times about Palmer. Go check. His emo quit post as a reaction to the weakest case ever all while he was slowly losing votes looked scummy as fuck.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 18:01 GMT
#4164
Yes but since you are mafia you can choose not to claim rb and shoot the guy correct?

Why would you claim in that position as town? You did super scummy shit along with people that even claimed mafia and knew you were going to get lynched or shot regardless. If you were town you know that you were such an easy lynch bait that mafia would leave you alone tonight for sure. You could easily shoot a claimed mafia, claim vig the next day and hope to be cleared by kp amount. You could hope no vigs shoot you tonight and even if they did you would still net us one dead scum.

Instead you put yourself in a position that your shot can't be reliable for no reason. Scum. Shoot or die.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 18:02 GMT
#4165
I talked about zeks because I was surprised no one mentioned the scummy claim yet still pushed him based on clues or defender him blindly.

When BC said it was good move to soft claim Miller when he thinks he was scanned and then later claim vig I became certain that BC was yielding behind this awful tunnel vision style in order to bus Palmer without lynching him.

BC had such a bad case on Palmer that it was helping Palmer almost look better even as he lurked through the end of the day. The defense of zeks was so bad that is was making him look scummy.

BC was basically so bad at what he was trying to do that I couldn't accept it as truth and saw a scum motive that explained his actions much better than anything else.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 18:07 GMT
#4166
I claimed because people are calling for my death enough that I feel like I have a 50% chance or so to live. It depends on how much the Vigis read the thread and how they take it in.

I also feel like this is a rare case where I can safely claim and confirm the results tomorrow without being targeted by the Mafia because of there being a good chance ill eat a Lynch tomorrow.

With that in mind and my possible death coming I see no reason not to claim besides fear of roleblock which you so kindly broadcasted so hard core and there is alot to be gained if I get my shot off before didn't due to the limited kill ability of town.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 30 2011 18:07 GMT
#4167
On December 01 2011 02:17 Serejai wrote:
Coincidentally, you're also on my scum list. When I flip green and the pressure is on you is that going to be your excuse? "I'm not mafia! I thought he was trolling!"

You're gonna need a better one that that. Especially since even though you've posted a lot of walls of text in this thread they're all fluff and contain no real substance. All of your posts are of the "appears to contribute without actually contributing" variety, and I have no doubt town will catch on eventually and start looking into your scummy playstyle.

the probably with you is, that if you flip green that's 0 information for town.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 18:08 GMT
#4168
LOL prpl thinks I'm scum.

Rofl anyone who thinks I'm scum at this point is either reaaaaaallly not reading the thread or scum.

That huge ass gambit was supposed to switch out prpl+Zeks for BC and Palmar. I kept pushin prpl in place of BC/Palmar and I did the stupid thing of not voting Zeks. Luckily he died anyway and the townies we should be blaming are the ones who were on Palmar.

In this case because palmar died in place of prpl, prpl is 95% scum.

Sandro, Palmar and I also did not just agree on this assessment for nothing. We all thought prpl was scum well before this claim business.

Also prpl you officially can no longer claim bad as a defense. You're not bad anymore, you're just running your mouth trying to save yourself.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 18:13 GMT
#4169
On December 01 2011 03:07 vaderseven wrote:
I claimed because people are calling for my death enough that I feel like I have a 50% chance or so to live. It depends on how much the Vigis read the thread and how they take it in.

I also feel like this is a rare case where I can safely claim and confirm the results tomorrow without being targeted by the Mafia because of there being a good chance ill eat a Lynch tomorrow.

With that in mind and my possible death coming I see no reason not to claim besides fear of roleblock which you so kindly broadcasted so hard core and there is alot to be gained if I get my shot off before didn't due to the limited kill ability of town.

What reason do you see FOR claiming? How does claiming in that spot helps your credibility?
Getting shot doesn't prevent you from shooting and we have confirmed reds for you to target. You should be glad of getting shot if you were town so town doesn't waste a lynch on you which would give scum a lot of places to hide.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2011 18:15 GMT
#4170
On December 01 2011 00:03 Hassybaby wrote:
Annul, I have a serious question, and I hope you can answer it well. You say you started the campaign on Zeks based on that clue. Why didn't you do the same for me? What was different between the cases?


because zeks clue was EXTREMELY fitting, much more than a random picture of a knife
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2011 18:16 GMT
#4171
also take things vader say with a MASSSSSSSIVE barrel of salt
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 18:17 GMT
#4172
I saw a reason for claiming when Mafia players started to claim in the thread and people said I should die. Me claiming provides info and we need that right now.

Getting shot prevents me from shooting unless I shoot tonight which is the point I was making.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 30 2011 18:18 GMT
#4173
On December 01 2011 03:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL prpl thinks I'm scum.

Rofl anyone who thinks I'm scum at this point is either reaaaaaallly not reading the thread or scum.

That huge ass gambit was supposed to switch out prpl+Zeks for BC and Palmar. I kept pushin prpl in place of BC/Palmar and I did the stupid thing of not voting Zeks. Luckily he died anyway and the townies we should be blaming are the ones who were on Palmar.

In this case because palmar died in place of prpl, prpl is 95% scum.

Sandro, Palmar and I also did not just agree on this assessment for nothing. We all thought prpl was scum well before this claim business.

Also prpl you officially can no longer claim bad as a defense. You're not bad anymore, you're just running your mouth trying to save yourself.

"prpl is 95% scum" is quite a claim, can you support this with analysis please?
your filter makes it clear you have thought this for a while but is less clear why
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 18:18 GMT
#4174
Sandro what do you think of xtfftc's mayor campaign day 1 and his behavior/vote yesterday?

He basically chose to abstain.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 18:20 GMT
#4175
I challenge anyone to make a solid well referenced case on me that doesn't assume that me voting for the mayor and sheriff that were actinf playing scummy (or just badly).

Getting tired of these rapid fire basically single point cases.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 18:20 GMT
#4176
Show me the quote where I say that you're scum.

You have been lying and slandering me all game and you have never put up anything that resembles an analysis and then you come out here and call for vigs to shoot me BECAUSE OF ANALYSIS. THAT YOU DID NOT MAKE. There are 6 other targets on wherebugsgo's list that they should shot, the rest of the names on the list were just random names wherebugsgo put on there because they voted for him or Palmar. And then he claims I'm on there because of analysis, well I have asked you ten times to link me that analysis and to write one (because you can't link it because you haven't written it) but did you give me anything yet?

sandroba is not infallible, and Palmar agreed that Ace and BloodyC0bbler were scum too. Ace flipped blue and BloodyC0bbler is maybe the towniest man in town and you're calling him scum. What the hell do you want me to think about that?

Also, I can still claim bad what the hell are you even talking about. Just because I thought you were scum for the wrong reasons doesn't make me any good, I've been bad since way before you played your first game on this forum.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 18:22 GMT
#4177
On December 01 2011 03:18 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 03:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL prpl thinks I'm scum.

Rofl anyone who thinks I'm scum at this point is either reaaaaaallly not reading the thread or scum.

That huge ass gambit was supposed to switch out prpl+Zeks for BC and Palmar. I kept pushin prpl in place of BC/Palmar and I did the stupid thing of not voting Zeks. Luckily he died anyway and the townies we should be blaming are the ones who were on Palmar.

In this case because palmar died in place of prpl, prpl is 95% scum.

Sandro, Palmar and I also did not just agree on this assessment for nothing. We all thought prpl was scum well before this claim business.

Also prpl you officially can no longer claim bad as a defense. You're not bad anymore, you're just running your mouth trying to save yourself.

"prpl is 95% scum" is quite a claim, can you support this with analysis please?
your filter makes it clear you have thought this for a while but is less clear why


I thought he was the best vote yesterday primarily on meta and his bad mayoral campaign. Now he's even more likely to be scum because the people voting him were nearly all town and scum saved him with a last minute switch.

Prpl and Zeks should have died yesterday. Since prpl did not, he needs to die now.

I can consolidate my analysis of prpl again if you'd like; I'll do that when I can get computer access.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 18:22 GMT
#4178
Meh phone posting sucks

Make a case that isn't solely based on me voting for two players that I found to incredibly scummy to the point of ignoring sensable things left and right.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 18:26 GMT
#4179
On December 01 2011 03:20 prplhz wrote:
Show me the quote where I say that you're scum.

You have been lying and slandering me all game and you have never put up anything that resembles an analysis and then you come out here and call for vigs to shoot me BECAUSE OF ANALYSIS. THAT YOU DID NOT MAKE. There are 6 other targets on wherebugsgo's list that they should shot, the rest of the names on the list were just random names wherebugsgo put on there because they voted for him or Palmar. And then he claims I'm on there because of analysis, well I have asked you ten times to link me that analysis and to write one (because you can't link it because you haven't written it) but did you give me anything yet?

sandroba is not infallible, and Palmar agreed that Ace and BloodyC0bbler were scum too. Ace flipped blue and BloodyC0bbler is maybe the towniest man in town and you're calling him scum. What the hell do you want me to think about that?

Also, I can still claim bad what the hell are you even talking about. Just because I thought you were scum for the wrong reasons doesn't make me any good, I've been bad since way before you played your first game on this forum.


Actually, if you noticed, I stopped calling BC scum shortly after the night post.

BC was acting incredibly scummy leading up to the lynch yesterday.

Any townies who don't believe me, read the 5-6 pages before the night post. In light of what happened with the vote switch obviously BC is more town, but no one could've foreseen that except scum.

No one is infallible, but Ace was a moron and BC was defending a scumslip lie like a politician. Yet, you choose to call me scum? I'll even point out the quote when I'm on a comp, I can't on this phone.

For any townies who can't wait, prpl called me "his best scum read" or something like that only like 2-3 pages ago.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 18:31 GMT
#4180
Rofl, why should I have died yesterday?

THERE WAS NEVER EVEN ANY ANALYSIS ON ME AND THERE STILL ISN'T. I think it was pretty weird that I got almost 17 votes in 2.5 hours after I went to bed, without anybody ever writing a case on me. Don't you think that this is weird? Also, scum scrambling to save me, rofl, are you fucking kidding me? Why would Kenpachi and Ciryandor and the rest scramble to save me? To kill Palmar and BloodyCobbler seems very reasonable, but to save me? That's fucking insane and you know it, if I were scum I'd already be dead.

Look at what I am writing and tell me how it is scummy instead of incessantly assaulting me with these baseless accusations, and meta arguments that you are not good enough to use AT ALL.
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