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Erandorr
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On November 16 2011 21:13 Erandorr wrote: Palmar are you serious and did you actually read what I wrote? The point I was trying to make at that point was that no discussion was going on and I gave a quick assesment on every player in the game to point out that with that kind of inactivity , we would lose the game. I was trying to get people out of their passsivity and start behaving like townies. Why would I write something like that to fill in? Because you're pointing out obvious things that everyone is fully aware of, while saying nothing. We can all count. We all know that half of town had few posts until then. What made you take upon the badge of a white knight to try and save town from inactivity? Remember, if you really want to spark discussion, all you have to do is to either come up with a plan, or to write a case on someone. Something you chose to ignore. You pointed out a problem without providing solution. I am, just as much as you, aware of how inactive town has been. Unlike you, I decided to actually do something about it instead of complain about it, and thus I had the idea of having a conversation with Sandroba. Of course I read what you wrote, you should know by now that I read very carefully what gets written (unless I'm scum, then I just write silly cases and hope people derp on them). I'm not going to convince you that you're scum, but I can at least try to get reads out of you if you aren't. Can you explain what your current thoughts are on lynching Mr. Wiggles? | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
Since I am still mad about you saying that I did not provide anything : On November 16 2011 04:12 Erandorr wrote: Or you could talk about the game. As in waht you are proposing that does not really help us but instead wastes a ton of time. Maybe MZ would make a great Mayor in general, but his only post was shit. Why not talk about what is already there and how do you think your suggestion could help in any way? In my opinion it does not get anything going because it in no way puts pressure on Scum or forces them to reveal information Turned around it also does not help establishing townies either. For example I respect Sandro a lot (because he helps me with my dwarf fortress ! ) and he is a good Scumhunter. But I could say he would make a great mayor if I was Town OR Scum because it is not related to this game and the alignments and you seem to ignore what people(in this case MZ) already did until now. At this point I actually just want to lynch the Lurker who produced the least amount of content at the end of this day. Anyone else like that Idea? Really bad first post followed up with this response to me: Until recently, no one has really produced any actual content, in my eyes. We had 4 pages which were basically Palmar asking to lynch WBG before he'd even posted and then for RNGing the lynch and people telling him no. Neither of those even needed a response, they were just bad ideas with no discussion value besides giving people something to bash on. It's like when someone comes up with a bad plan for town and we spend 10 pages attacking it. Everyone can do it and it doesn't produce real content. Basically, I wanted something to read (which I got), and my post drew out a few reactions which I liked. He spins his very bad first post in a way to make it seem pro town. Basicly he is saying that he posted crap to get a response out of people.He is of the opinion that a lot of bad ideas does not lead to anything, yet his did? The thing is that very few people actually talked about it and it certainly did not get discussion going. The responses he got are not conclusive at all but he lets them sound strong, to show that his own shitty post was good, pro town instead of scummy and bad. Too bad no one was really dumb and actually responded to my question though, because most townies here are smart enough to know not to and it would have been an easy scum-tell. He is saying that we are too smart and gave him shit of a scummy post , but the scummy post was really a trap but also got good responses out of people. I don't reaaaally think thats good logic there. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
1. Palmar seems town to me so far but then why the hell does he do stuff like this: On November 16 2011 19:10 Palmar wrote: I'll give my thoughts on day 1 soon-ish. I'm still up for completely random lynching btw. At the moment I'm not quite sure I want to lynch WBG, he seems reasonable. I also don't agree with the lynch on Hiro, but that's pending me actually reading everything in the thread. I'd rather no-lynch than lynch a townie, and I will press the issue. I made that promise to myself sometime during XLIV and I have followed through ever since, I will NOT vote on people I think are town, no matter the circumstances. So yeah, don't worry about it I will give you what you need before the day is over. Bolded for your convenience. On November 16 2011 19:13 Palmar wrote: Irrelevant to the game: + Show Spoiler + @WBG: I never said your town play was terrible, I said it was middle of the road. You haven't caught up with the pro town players, but you're still decent. I just used it to contrast it with the fact that you have very strong scum play. How exactly is this irrelevant to the game!? 2. Erandorr's huge big post that I'd quote but I'm afraid reposting would break the internet. This post is actually not saying anything at all. sandroba said that Erandorr was defending hiro protagonist, but he isn't. He is actually agreeing with a lot of the stuff that wherebugsgo points out. What Erandorr is most pissed at is the way that wherebugsgo plays. This is a big opinion post about how someone else plays the game without actually concluding anything about the game, he doesn't end up saying that hiro protagonist is scum, nor does he say that hiro protagonist is scum. I mean I have no idea what this post was about and neither does Erandorr, so why make it? He then promises that he'll post some actual analysis but he never does this. It is cool that you're trying to be active and all but you're not helping and that's weird. 3. I think sandroba's read on Erandorr is wrong. Erandorr is putting effort into this game alright but that doesn't make him town, and he never argued against the hiro protagonist lynch. I think it's weird that sandroba would think that Erandorr is town because of something Erandorr readily admits that he never did. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Anyway, what do you think of lynching Wiggles prplhz? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I think Mr. Wiggles is the best lynch right now. He's actively been a lot more derpy than what should be expected from him. I'd like him to show up right now and start talking. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On November 16 2011 22:14 prplhz wrote: A lynch is a lynch, you can't just blame atmospheric noise or quantum mechanics when you vote on somebody who flips town. Can you tell me why a random lynch would be good for town as opposed to a no lynch? I think Mr. Wiggles is the best lynch right now. He's actively been a lot more derpy than what should be expected from him. I'd like him to show up right now and start talking. If it isn't obvious by now, random lynching is actually kinda awesome in extended majority games, because it creates such a fuckton of discussion, both about whether or not it should be done, and then after the dice has been rolled whether or not we will actually go with the random lynch person. I suggest we try it at some point, but clearly this game won't be the game we try it on. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:09 prplhz wrote: Yea hiro protagonist is scum ##Vote hiro protagonist What happened to this? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Vote Count Wherebugsgo (4) Erandorr Palmer jaybrundage hiro protagonist hiro protagonist (3) prplhz Meapak_Ziphh Wherebugsgo Mr Wiggles and sandroba have not voted Since there are 9 people, 5 votes are needed to reach majority Day ends in 12 and a half hours | ||
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Erandorr
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 16 2011 22:24 prplhz wrote: ... no it will not because no townie in their right mind would vote for someone based on how the stars are aligned on this particular day. Wait, there are other ways of choosing who to vote for? O.O /back to lurking and consulting astral charts to find scum. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
How did you think you would prevent a bandwagon by going through wherebugsgo's analysis and then agreeing with half of it and sporadically interjecting "shut up"? If you don't think that hiro protagonist is in the green at all, then why don't you want people to bandwagon on him? Mr. Wiggles is the best lynch because he should definitely know better. He's a veteran and then he comes up with an overly simplistic plan to catch dumb people? What the hell? And then he follows up by saying "Lol, I didn't catch any dumb people, afk" and disappears. This isn't good enough. @hiro protagonist If you could lynch one guy right now who would it be and why? Can you keep arguments inside this game please, no lynching wherebugsgo because he called somebody a retard in PYPI or something like that. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
##Vote Wiggles Something no one else has done yet, even though it seems like a lot of people like him for the lynch today. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On November 16 2011 22:42 prplhz wrote: Making it sound like he's certainly scum is a pretty nice trick to put a ton of pressure on a scum. He doesn't know that we don't know it, it will put a lot of stress on him unless he can keep his head cool. Did I think that he was 100% scum? At that time I was very suspicious and I wanted to put more pressure on him. He handled it very badly but skimming over a couple of his past games, he always plays like this. It sucks, but it's his meta. Also, no one defended him. How did you think you would prevent a bandwagon by going through wherebugsgo's analysis and then agreeing with half of it and sporadically interjecting "shut up"? If you don't think that hiro protagonist is in the green at all, then why don't you want people to bandwagon on him? Mr. Wiggles is the best lynch because he should definitely know better. He's a veteran and then he comes up with an overly simplistic plan to catch dumb people? What the hell? And then he follows up by saying "Lol, I didn't catch any dumb people, afk" and disappears. This isn't good enough. @hiro protagonist If you could lynch one guy right now who would it be and why? Can you keep arguments inside this game please, no lynching wherebugsgo because he called somebody a retard in PYPI or something like that. DId you just ask me why I don't want people to bandwagon someone I am not completely sure of , or bandwagon in general? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Mr. Wiggles | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
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