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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 10 2011 13:23 wherebugsgo wrote: you can't put a price on love I thought we had a deal. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
i love you too <3 | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
I hate you all the mafia is going to win. The mafia kill someone tonight they automatically win. Going from 5v3 to 4v3 = town loses? I mean we'll still be in bad shape and we'll need a correct lynch...but we also would have lost with a mislynch today. If you think I am mafia, you are either scum, or completely lost. If you think I am mafia with Skrammen, you can only either have not read the thread, or be dumb. I was among the first to accuse him day one and I put the vote on him to bring him to one vote away from death with a few hours to go before deadline.You people are the dumbest sheep ever. Hod,skrammen, and drem are the mafia. GG wp @Zanfada Ciry/HoD I am little bit suspicious of you two because mafia have been doing really well this game and you two are the best players still alive. I have no good proof of anything but I see this as a major possibility. Mafia are doing well because people haven't posted enough nor well enough to be elevated to the level of being considered townie. Look at the team melee game, it started after ours, had 18 people playing 9 roles, has already ended, and yet has over double the post count of our game. And yet, even that activity was low enough that a parity cop ended up being the saving grace for town. I also see no reason to consider us the best players alive. We are the most openly pro-town and active players. That does not mean we are the best. I don't know what more I can do to prove to you I am town. If you read through this thread and really think I am scum, then there is simply nothing more I can offer. As for Ciry, I obviously believe him to be town, but if he's scum then I am beyond fucked. Also keep in mind, anyone that knows their own role, and is willing to accept Ciry and myself as town, actually has more information than Ciry or myself, and can therefore make a better judgement than we can. The problem, of course, is that nobody else has the trust of town built up enough to eliminate the possibility of them being scum leading us astray. Thus the people leading are also the ones who are the most in the dark.@Ciry How could we be any more screwed than we already are? Either we will go down to 4v3 and it will be lylo, or stay at 5v3 and it will remain mylo. Either way we need every lynch to be right. I'm getting a bit worried that Sermokala might be hyshes 2.0 :-/ I also couldn't help but notice that only Bunneh seems to care to address this post of mine: I am not 100% sold on it yet, but the most logically consistent scum team for me is: Bunneh, xsksc, Sermokala. So, the three of you, the only defense I will accept is an alternate scum team of 3, with an explanation of why it is plausible. | ||
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Zanfada
United States53 Posts
On November 09 2011 20:32 Ciryandor wrote: Look at the vote list right now (people who voted are listed in order of their vote and the timestamp): For Drem: Zanfada (11/9 08:02) For Skrammen: Bunneh (11/8 21:55) Ciry (11/9 09:42) hackle/Sermo (11/9 11:18) xsksc (11/9 11:31) Drem (11/9 12:11) The last 3 votes happened within an hour of each other. It could be that they came to a consensus to vote for Skram and then just voted instead of spreading out their votes over the course of the day. It’s a bit of a reach but it is something. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14038 Posts
On November 10 2011 15:39 Zanfada wrote: I agree our situation is dire. But Ciry posted voting with time stamps The last 3 votes happened within an hour of each other. It could be that they came to a consensus to vote for Skram and then just voted instead of spreading out their votes over the course of the day. It’s a bit of a reach but it is something. I came to the conclusion of voteing for him a while before I actually put the vote in. how is having 4:3 any better then having 5:3? I honestly have no idea what you where thinking with that post if you weren't scum. What do you want us all to do tomorrow? you think that the mafias kill tonight will be giving any information to help us? again the games over no sense trying to analyze anything anymore. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On November 10 2011 15:13 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @Ciry How could we be any more screwed than we already are? Either we will go down to 4v3 and it will be lylo, or stay at 5v3 and it will remain mylo. Either way we need every lynch to be right. I'm getting a bit worried that Sermokala might be hyshes 2.0 :-/ I also couldn't help but notice that only Bunneh seems to care to address this post of mine: We can be more screwed if it turns out that scum get a shot off that kills the Medic. At this stage of the game, they'll care more about killing him than offing us two, because it's lylo and they'll want to prevent the town from getting one more day with which to actually get information. We've gained half a day and vital information on Skrammen with the no-lynch; and there's no use for them in trying to off us IMO because of the risk of medic protects setting them back even more (if one of us gets targeted by a save and they hit the same person, we can use a no-lynch strategy once again if it becomes necessary; and also gain a good chance of eliminating another null-tell player if they play this thing wrong). | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
I am not 100% sold on it yet, but the most logically consistent scum team for me is: Bunneh, xsksc, Sermokala. So, the three of you, the only defense I will accept is an alternate scum team of 3, with an explanation of why it is plausible. 1) Drem 2) Sermokala 3) Skrammen if they were bussing. Bunneh or zanfada if not. Going with the assumption that HoD and ciry are town. The only flaw I see with this is zanfada wanting drem dead, so I think bunneh is more likely in #3. If HoD and ciry are scum then we're really fucked anyway lol. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14038 Posts
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
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Zanfada
United States53 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14038 Posts
Tonight the scum are going to kill someone. now I don't know who it is going to be but we don't really have any solid targets for the lynch tomorrow. scums going to present a target say drem or skrammen and then if the towns not entirely voting on the same person scum can last second switch to avoid a majority lynch and win the game. Now who are we going to gamble that on? Skrammen is the closest target that we have to a scum. But you still decided that we should go for the no lynch instead. Which is a real good end game move. You know that everyone believes you and I think your the mvp of the game. yeah its a newbie game and I could have done more if I came in earlier and we could have gotten luckier with the lynches that we did do. But this doesn't change the fact that all that no lynch did is put us in a similar position we where in yesterday. Theres no logic at all attributable to you action if you weren't scum. I bet that you that one of the scum could claim that he was scum right now and they'd still win. Sense the town has rested its hopes on you and will follow like sheep what do you think we should lynch tomorrow? If you accuse someone thats not town then the games over. that person will just vote for someone else and the scum will last minute no lynch switch and win the game. I'm sorry but I just feel hopeless about it. Its been really fun playing my first game. | ||
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Skrammen
Norway195 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On November 11 2011 07:14 GMarshal wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! The game isn't over until the fat lady sings! XLV ? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
Sermo, what's with the defeatist attitude man? We still have a medic, and if we lynch scum tomorow we're in a really good position. You still haven't posted your alternative scum team for HoD, why not? If you're town it's only gonna help, I don't see why you're being so negative right now. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
If we lynch scum tomorrow we're still in a shitty position, it just means we don't necessarily lose. Right now I'd put the odds of a town win at between 5% and 20%. If we hit scum tomorrow, I think it goes up to 15-35%, if we don't obviously we lose. Of course, that is with the assumption that Ciry is town. If he isn't, then I put our odds at 0%. As for being labeled inactive, I'd consider the majority of the players in this game largely inactive. If you wanted to help your case as town and wanted to encourage useful/positive discussion, posting a thorough explanation of your scum list would help. Helps limit the time spent filtering each player on it and reading through for interactions. | ||
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