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Good morning!
This kill on risk is interesting, not what I expected at all.
It makes toad look guilty as hell, as risk was leading the campaign against toad. HOWEVER mafia might use this to their advantage and kill risk to frame toad, but then again... if toad is mafia and they know that we'll think that it might be a frame, they might shoot him anyway to get risk off toads back. Could be mind games, could be a frame, I don't know, I'll wait and see how toad is posting today before I form my opinions.
Harbringer makes a good point about lurkers benefiting from this kill.
I want to hear from hackle especially, 2 posts since the game started is some pretty hardcore lurking. What do you think about risk being shot? Do you still stand by your toad vote on day 1?
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On November 02 2011 18:30 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and I'm already placing my vote. I don't want you guys to vote 8 hours before the deadline. Keep in mind that a couple of guys here are from europe. Deadline is 03:00 am for me and I have to wake up at 6:50 in the morning. So placing votes late on the second day of this cycle might help spreading votes and therefore we might end up having another no lynch. I don't want that to happen
I thought we had 48 hours?
I'm also from europe and start the morning around the same time so I have to vote in advance too
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Thats a pretty strong case harbringer, not gonna vote on it yet though.
I'm pretty torn between drem skrammen and toad at the moment, gonna re-read the thread again before I decide my vote.
We NEED a lynch today, day 1 was terrible with people leaving votes on people who were never gonna get lynched, so we missed a lot of potential information there.
I think my scum list at the moment would be something like this
1) Toad OR Skrammen
2) Drem
3) Hyshes or some random inactive like Hackle
This list is definitely not set in stone, I only recently added drem to it and hyshes could probably be replaced by a lot of people I haven't properly looked at yet.
Harbringers case is good, but it doesn't make me 100% feel hes scum.
Will update when I've finished re-reading/filtering.
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EBWOP
Just woke up btw , I can't be on during USA evening/night time, its the middle of night for me and I have an early start 
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OK yeah wtf, thats really weird behaviour hyshes, and definitely enough for me to place a vote on you.
You're either retarded town or scum with no defence.
##vote Hyshes
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Good working material? Lol, where?
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On November 03 2011 23:08 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 22:52 Toadesstern wrote:On November 03 2011 22:16 hyshes wrote:
I'm not retarded, and this aint stupid play either. It's the only play i got left to have a possible chance on a town win. I'm just kinda hoping it will open your eyes. I'm just offering good working material here. for that purpose, i'm willing to do a sacrifice here.
After my action here it will be 6towns vs 3 mafia (assuming mafia kills a townie next night), so still a good majority for the town. Maybe if towns is lucky, it will be 7vs3.. if you flip green we know exactly nothing except for the fact that you've pulled an emo here. It's not like harbs red because he went for you. If that'd true EVERYONE has to be red in here because everyone once accused someone (I guess) If you flip red we know why you did it. No emo here, just not up for your shitty logic.
what does town actually gain flip green? fuck all
what does mafia gain if you flip red? fuck all
it's your logic that's shitty here and whichever way you flip, its bad play
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what is there to discuss? like I said yesterday, we gain fuck all information after that lynch if hes town... it was really silly play.
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I didn't mean we shouldn't be talking, I just meant this lynch has given us almost nothing new to discuss.
As for my updated list, I still think either toad or skrammen is red. They can't BOTH be red because they went at each other pretty aggressively. Still got FOS on drem. I dont know who I'd replace hyshes with right now, I had my suspicions of zanfada day 1, so possibly him. I guess it depends who gets shot next, like I said, this lynch gives us almost nothing to work with :/
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On November 05 2011 13:00 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Chocolate and xsksc, I would be interested in hearing your reads on each other, as well as an explanation of the read of course.
The same goes for Skrammen and xsksc.
Certainly, I'll start with
Chocolate
He hasn't posted a lot, so I don't have much of a read on him. He seems like a semi-active lurker, not saying a lot but still getting his vote/opinnion in, he's stayed out of the spotlight quite well. He could well be a mafia just trying to get by quietly, although at the moment I don't have too much on him.
Skrammen
This guy intrigues me, his defense was pretty weak day 1, and I think he only missed being lynched because mafia must have spread their votes. This guys green if toad is mafia, but the same can be said for toad. BOTH of these guys benefited from risks death, skrammen a bit more indirectly than toad. Risk was pretty much the only guy defending skrammen day 1, so when he flips green it makes skrammen look good. He was also the guy leading the toad campaign. I have re-read the thread, and I STILL can't decide which one of these guys is scum and which isn't.
Current FOS list would be something like this
1) Toad or Skrammen
2) Drem
3) Someone who's fitting in well and hasn't been thought about too much, chocolate or hackle/hackles replacement perhaps.
I think I'll start the day with a pressure vote
##vote Drem903
On November 02 2011 07:20 Drem903 wrote:
I guess i don't honestly have a good reason as to why i did not vote for SKrammen in the end.
You blocked the skrammen lynch day 1, without even having a good explanation?
@Drem
What are your current reads?
Do you still hold by your day 1 decision to help block the lynch?
How do you feel about Skrammen and Toad now?
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sorry you feel I'm not posting enough toad, I just made a pretty big post updating all my thoughts/reads about people on the last page.
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well it is saturday so I guess I'll let you off
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I'd love to defend myself harb, but you haven't given a SINGLE reason why you voted for me. I'm really puzzled by this, if you want me lynched why wait so long in the day without giving anyone some reasons to vote for me? I'm EU so I cant be up until the deadline, are you trying to start a bandwagon on me when I won't be online to defend myself?
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maybe I missed it harb but you still havent explained your vote on me I think?
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I voted skrammen day 1 because a vote on Zanfada would have been a wasted vote in that situation.
As for me mentioning time zones as often as possible, I don't really get your point there. I mention when I'll be on next/if I'm not going to be on a certain time... is this what you mean? I don't see the harm in letting people know when I'm not around, hell, you're using that as a reason to back up your vote?
Also, I don't think I've been lurking or posting filler. Every day so far I've kept you up to date with my FoS list, reads etc. Sure I don't spam as much as toad for example, but I'm letting you guys know what I think.
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Im willing to change for skrammen, dont have any strong feelings for choc but i wouldnt block a lynch on him
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so who are we lynching? not got long left to decide
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Not happy about it, I'd far rather lynch drem/skram but seeing as that doesnt look likely now.
##unvote Drem903
##vote Chocolate
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woke up at fucking 2am and can't get back to sleep, oh well.
Toad was green so..
##vote Skrammen
ps sorry for my inactivity yesterday, MW3 just came out so I've been playing it at a mates house all day 
we can win this guys, we still got our medic, we just need a little luck.
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