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Alrighty, I just read through everything and I gotta say.... when the hell did this turn into a game of WIFOM?
Incognito's ONLY defense is WIFOM that he attacked plprph(whatever) and then he dies an hour later. You know what would be nice instead? Some analysis on those players he said he was going to analyze.
Likewise the case on Curu is just bad. I actually entertained the idea for a bit and the case wasn't completely off the wall, but as Mig pointed out it's just bad timing. What's the point of accusing him on the next day? Wait and see what he does afterwards and there you go. There's still two other scum that we need to hunt, we don't need a giant distraction on a useful player.
You guys do realize that Curu himself presented a similar case that Jackal was also a bus? Jackal was then killed at night and then....nothing.
My opinion of WBG is that he needs to shut up. After being incredibly wrong on the first day and incredibly annoying throughout the first night, he started off day 2 saying we should just ignore Incognito and let him dig his own grave since everyone thinks he's scum. He then slammed and voted for Incognito, only to jump right on Curu when NC made the post. Did you guys read the logs between him and Curu? It's essentially him badgering Curu and then highlighting small bits for evidence.
WBG has been nothing but a distraction and a disruption for the town. I don't know why any townie would constantly play like that. Maybe for one argument or outburst but over the entire game? Also on a personal level I find him to be irritating and borderline offensive a lot of the time which made this thread a lot less fun to read.
On a similar level NC (who might actually not be Chezinu, funny that) has also provided nothing but distractions on day 2. First he tries to get Forumite to type the aim command for about 3 pages, and then he makes that ginormous case on one of our most useful players. I can't say that I think he's completely wrong, but he needs to have a damn good explanation for the timing of that accusation.
Finally Incognito is at least right on the large number of players that simply aren't posting much in this thread. I don't know if things are awesome in PM land but it's utter stupidity for people to live there. PMs are only a powerful tool if you can discuss things without the mafia knowing, and you're sure of that.
Of all the people that have posted very little so far I think DropBear is by far the most suspicious player. All he did day 1 was post a poem, attack Sevrn, and he even defended Palmar a little bit. He hasn't posted at all during night 1 or day 2 so far. How many of you remembered that he was still playing?
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I haven't read the thread since the day 1 lynch yet guys, been busy with AFL grand final weekend but seriously why is Curu even up for debate? He was a driving force behind getting Palmar killed and was the first person to vote for him why would he just kill his teammate day 1? Makes no sense!
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Ok seriously the case on Curu is ridiculous.
He was the first person to vote on Palmar. He was the first person to make analysis on Palmar. He pushed like hell to get Palmar killed. The lynch would not have got over the line without him.
If something came up in palmar's life he could just get a replacement, there was no need to bus him.
Mig claims that he claimed to Curu. I repeat his point, why roleblock him? Is Mig lying? MAYBE MIG AND CURU ARE MAFIA TOGETHER AND ARE CONSPIRING TO GET TOWN CRED OMG CONSPIRACY!!!!!??!?!?
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On October 02 2011 17:35 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 10:59 Forumite wrote:On October 02 2011 10:46 Sevryn wrote: tbh I think he was trying to get a ton of people to pm erandorr and then he asked erandorr who he was talking to trying to figure out who could pm trying to mute hunt... Hmmm, Supersoft did something like this, he PMed me about who I was talking to in PMs before the lynch, and later in the thread asked me again. Almost as if he was picking up where Incog started. I really don´t see how this information could be of any use, except to try and find mason-circles and Mutes, which is why I am reluctant to share. Has anyone else gotten a lot of questions from Supersoft? Are you serious? I sent you exactly two PMs. One where I demanded the names and one where I asked you if you are muted right after you fake aimed at night. "a lot of questions"... Just asking around if anyone has had the same experience, either they don´t, or they haven´t noticed my post. These kinds of questions are much to sensitive to take in the thread, I´m not going to out PM-active townies.
As for the Curu case, the defence Mig and Curu brought together looks good, and I don´t want to lynch Curu.
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And look who's jumping straight on the Curu bandwagon! It's everyone's favourite guy-that-DropBear-voted-for-yesterday Sevryn!
Day 1 he voted for the smurf cos its a smurf.
Day 2 he is jumping right on the shitty bandwagon which makes absolutely no sense. Who made the bandwagon? Why the smurf of course!
On October 02 2011 12:52 Sevryn wrote: Yay Notchez your no longer trolling that makes me oh so happy anywho thats a really interesting case on curu you have there. lets see what he has to say for himself ##vote curu
Wow he made big post with pretty pictures! He must be a good guy now!
The majority of Sevryn's post are Captain Obvious statements referring to things that have happened, voted the smurf day 1 for bad reasons, is jumping on the Curu bandwagon for even more strange reasons.
I can post a pretty picture too, now everyone get off this retarded Curu bandwagon
Sevryn is Mafia
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Incognito is not a good lynch either in my opinion. I could understand a self-preservation vote in your case but really, you're supposedly a good player. Think this shit through.
I liked your case on Erandorr and he's my number 2 suspect. Stop derping.
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WBG and tnkted
I was suspicious of WBG after his scumminess as Palmar was getting lynched, and didn´t feel like letting up. There was less and less talk about him, probably because of something suggested in this post:
On September 30 2011 23:28 tnkted wrote: WBG is town. I bring this information from PM land. Plz don't shoot him. On September 30 2011 23:34 tnkted wrote: PM me for questions, back to class Well, much later, after asking in the thread about it, I got a PM from tnkted, in which he said nothing at all. Stalling or hiding information, whatever it is, he´s definetly not helping me, nor Town, by not dispelling my suspicions if he can. Original Message From tnkted: are you mute? why can't you pm me and ask?
You could probably ask somebody else and find out (not really a secret) but he PM'd me when he thought he was gonna die and dumped some scumreads and his role on me. I think he did the same thing with some other people, he didn't say who. If anyone, tnkted or WBG or someone else, anybody, knows what this is all about, why WBG was suddenly considered a Townie despite his disruptive behavior, then please, PLEASE PM me. If there´s nothing out there, then the only explanation is that those two players are linked at the hip, shamelessly lying to make eachother look like Townies. If nobody explains this, then there´s only one explanation.
##Vote wherebugsgo
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Finally an answer, thanks. I´m giving WBG the benefit of the doubt for now.
##Unvote wherebugsgo ##Vote Incognito
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Incognito (6)
1- wherebugsgo 3- Kenpachi 4- sinani206 5- Nisani201 6- Curu 10- Mig 14- Forumite
wherebugsgo (1) 2- Nisani201
13 - Forumite
Curu (4) 7- Incognito 8- NotChezinu 9- wherebugsgo 11- Sevryn
Sevryn (1) 12- Dropbear
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nisani201 doesn't have two votes ^_^
##vote: NotChezinu
btw.
I favour him over incognito. One of the three is scum: wbg, incognito and NotChezinu.
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My bad, missed Nisani´s two votes.
Incognito (7)
1- wherebugsgo 3- Kenpachi 4- sinani206 5- Nisani201 6- Curu 10- Mig 14- Forumite 15- risk-nuke
wherebugsgo (0)
2- Nisani201
13 - Forumite
Curu (4) 7- Incognito 8- NotChezinu 9- wherebugsgo 11- Sevryn
Sevryn (1) 12- Dropbear
NotChezinu (1) 16- Supersoft
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Yeah Kenpachi my apologies. Actually I formed the case in my head while I was at Nuite Blanche and I had thought the wording in your post was "if you think I'm lying the PM time is xxx" but when I got home and read what the post really was your wording was actually much different. I posted about it anyways but Kenpachi's reaction looks pretty Town.
I agree that Sevyrn looks pretty damn bad. He isn't just bandwagon hopper Sevyrn either, he carefully avoided the Palmar issue, didn't give any opinion on Incog but jumped super fast onto my retarded wagon.
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And finally if anyone thinks I am manipulating Mig, anyone I have talked to knows what respect I hold for Mig as a Town player. I am pretty sure Mig would catch me fast if I talked to him nonstop in Skype like I am now. Actually I requested scum in XLIV but asked for Mig to be placed on my team too cause I was sure he would catch me as Town.
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After speaking with Mig I am switching my vote to Incognito. He's not been transparent. A player who is as good as him should not be on something this stupid.
I still want to lynch Sevryn but it looks like it's going to be hard to switch everyone off Curu/Incognito so Incognito it is.
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On October 03 2011 00:16 DropBear wrote: After speaking with Mig I am switching my vote to Incognito. He's not been transparent. A player who is as good as him should not be on something this stupid.
I still want to lynch Sevryn but it looks like it's going to be hard to switch everyone off Curu/Incognito so Incognito it is.
I still can't believe someone as good as Incognito would play this badly as scum either, but right now it is the more likely option. I actually considered Curu before NC made his case, but he wrote his big analysis before Mig did, pushing this lynch far too strongly to be considered scum since, after being on a scumteam with Curu 2 times I know that he hates bussing more than anything, he mentioned that himself.
##Vote Incognito
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The case on Curu is pretty shitty now that i look on it with fresh eyes it only has any weight if you guarantee that palmar was bussed and the evidence that he was bussed really isnt that compelling. If incog flips scum we need to look at NotChezinu for making a giant distraction case. ##unvote ##vote NotChezinu
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YOU CHOBOS VOTE INCOGNITO
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On October 03 2011 01:32 Kenpachi wrote: YOU CHOBOS VOTE INCOGNITO I AM NOT A BIRD FROM FINAL FANTASY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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On October 03 2011 01:33 Sevryn wrote:I AM NOT A BIRD FROM FINAL FANTASY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
I AM !
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