All i see is curu fishing for your role and then since palamar wasnt a blue pyro and obviously the "accidental" telling you the role was obviously planned is it to much of a hop skip and a jump to them trying to convince you that his claim was real?

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:04 GMT

#862

Also why are you defending curu not letting him defend himself?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:15 GMT

#863

Because townies in general are dumb and it is easy for them to get a dumb bandwagon going. Why shouldn't I defend curu if I think he is town?

Explain to me why he roleblocked me after I claimed vanilla sevryn.

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:30 GMT

#864

What does a vanilla claim mean to anyone? if the top person on your list to lynch claimed VT you wouldnt try to lynch him? that essentially the same claim. hell he might have roleblocked you because he thought you claimed VT to hide something idk

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:31 GMT

#865

Also nice that incognito NC and WBG all disappeared from the thread instead of commenting on what I posted.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:33 GMT

#866

Sevryn are you serious....... I mean come on.

This entire supposed master plan to bus palmar was to gain infinite town cred for curu and get people to trust him. After doing that why the fuck would he think I would lie to him? Use some common sense here. Of course I was telling him the truth.

He had literally no motivation to ever roleblock me after I claimed vanilla to him. Even if he thought there was some small chance I was lying why risk wasting the roleblock when he could use it on any of the numerous other people who hadn't claimed vanilla.

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:40 GMT

#867

On October 02 2011 13:33 Mig wrote:
Sevryn are you serious....... I mean come on.

This entire supposed master plan to bus palmar was to gain infinite town cred for curu and get people to trust him. After doing that why the fuck would he think I would lie to him? Use some common sense here. Of course I was telling him the truth.

He had literally no motivation to ever roleblock me after I claimed vanilla to him. Even if he thought there was some small chance I was lying why risk wasting the roleblock when he could use it on any of the numerous other people who hadn't claimed vanilla.

Your own arguments contradicts you.

3) Balance - This won't really be applicable right now but in kurumi's last game I know he didn't RNG all the teams/roles completely and he balanced it fairly normally. So looking at the player list the top players would be myself/Curu/Palmar/ingonito/ and probably the smurf. There is around a 0% chance those 5 players are all town and I would say it is very likely 2 of those 5 are mafia and not just mafia but most likely the mafia power roles (GF, RB, etc). This doesn't do us much good ATM but everyone should be watching all of those players closely, especially as people die and there are fewer of them left.

Maybe he agreed with your thoughts on balance and decided since you were not scum you most likely would have a power role since your one of the more experianced players in this game.

this is of course assuming hes scum and your not

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:41 GMT

#868

EBWODP
Saying your own arguments contradicts you isnt really what i meant there but you understand what i mean

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:42 GMT

#869

I never said town power roles weren't RNG durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Of course new players can have blue roles. I said the teams weren't RNGd skill wise.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:43 GMT

#870

And you just completely ignored my entire point. Why the fuck would he think I am lying after he just convinced me that he is town by bussing palmar? It makes no sense.

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:44 GMT

#871

you said the mafia power roles were most likely givin to more experianced players why would the same not be true for town? why are you not even considering the possibility?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:47 GMT

#872

Because that's how mafia games work..... The town power roles are much more likely to be rngd where the mafia ones are not. Curu knows this.

Is it a possibility that curu thought I was lying uhhhh I guess. But even if he thought there was some chance I was lying why would he not role block smurf or Incognito who are both more experienced than I am and hadn't claimed vanilla to him? Why the fuck would he roleblock the only experienced player to claim roleblock I mean come on! And aren't you curious what mafia didn't roleblock smurf or Incognito to mute them when they do literally almost ALL their work in pms. While I am active in the thread?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:47 GMT

#873

EBWOP: Why the fuck would he roleblock the only experienced player to claim vanilla

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:51 GMT

#874

Its not like anyone else claimed anything else

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:52 GMT

#875

It is like talking to a box of bricks.

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:53 GMT

#876

Also your pretty notorious for pming entire towns to ask peoples opinions the PM games I have played with you youve been active in PM land so why would they think you havnt been active its much to their advantage to mute experienced players who would be able to make a town circle to confirm townies.

Sevryn

698 Posts

October 02 2011 04:54 GMT

#877

hey man personal attacks are not going to convince me or you however this has been an interesting conversation

NotChezinu

Zimbabwe61 Posts

October 02 2011 04:56 GMT

#878

Yes, please enjoy your cup of delicious wifom. Maybe curu forgot to tell his team you claimed vanilla, maybe he didn't believe you, maybe he decided "I dont feel like talking to him". Trying to figure out the motivations of the mafia is an exercise of wifom. However taking a cup of your own medicine, if Incog is scum, why did he shoot prpl less than an hour after making a case on him? To make himself look bad?

Also that conversation shows curu bluefishing, wonderful. Why did he care about your role again?

So yeah that "vital piece of evidence" means very little, people claim vanilla whenever they don't want to give away their role. Curu even thought you were a blue, hence the engineer comment, you just didn't confirm it for him.

I'm out for the night. I eagerly await curu's defense.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:57 GMT

#879

Yes that is exactly right sevryn it does make perfect sense for them to mute someone like me who is active in pms. However according to NC, curu's master plan was to bus palmar and then manipulate me. Remember curu supposedly manipulated me into lynching palmar and is now manipulating me into lynching Incognito. Soooo if this were the case why mute me? How can he manipulate me if I am mute?