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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On August 27 2011 00:30 Foolishness wrote: We can always just kill BrownBear and settle this Mig thing tomorrow. My case against BrownBear still stands as he hasn't even posted yet today, and he's only got 11 hours before day ends. I do believe that Mig is lying, but part of me feels that we should just take the safest option here. If he's indeed the tracker, it will force the mafia to roleblock him (or they risk him finding a mafia so once he does die we will know who to lynch). Of course we will make him check whoever we want (Pyo). I also do not believe chaos13 to be mafia. And Mig you never commented about my lurker list. I agree with you to take the safest option, but i'd prefer rayzorflash for that job. | ||
nard
Germany124 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Curu, check my voting history again, please. And I'm up for switching to BrownBear as well. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 27 2011 00:51 xtfftc wrote: Nard, what do you think of Mig's claim? Curu, check my voting history again, please. And I'm up for switching to BrownBear as well. What about your voting history contradicts my point? | ||
xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
What's changed in the situation is that people have started linking you two together as opposing day 2 wagons, which makes your initial push against Kurumi instead of Mig look scummy. | ||
xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
My point is you voted for him on day 2 This is the last time I'm saying this - I did not vote for Mig on Day 2. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
This is why at the moment I'd go for Mig. Although he improved after his early post about Sevryn, he did not provide anything substantial. Also, although a lot of people casted their vote for Sevryn and then went to bed, Mig did it in in the middle tha attempted switch to Rayzor. Actually this makes you look worse if Mig flips red, since you commented on your next leading wagon but never actually voted. Two scum wagons on day 2 is a very real possibility. Thanks for pointing that out for me, I missed it the first time around. Why is this thread so dead... | ||
supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On August 27 2011 01:29 Curu wrote: Right, but you had this: Actually this makes you look worse if Mig flips red, since you commented on your next leading wagon but never actually voted. Two scum wagons on day 2 is a very real possibility. Thanks for pointing that out for me, I missed it the first time around. Why is this thread so dead... dude, that's what I was talking about the whole time! the thread is dead because we actually stopped being idiots and now lynch someone with an actual reason and not only because he made one silly post (hi sev/hiro-voters) and Palmar is dead. I like the atmosphere in the thread - the huge posts and the constructive discussions going on etc. I feel like we're on the right track. | ||
supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Actually I thought about it and I have to say I am lynching noone instead of mig today. We discussed this lynch pretty decently. And if we try to find new target now just because he claimed to be tracker, it will end in a mess. You know, what would you do if you're accused like mig and GM offers you a fakerole... Of course he's a tracker. This is the most valuable role we got except for vigilantes... I don't believe him and his claim... it doesn't change anything, this specific role casts even more suspicion over him :-[ | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On August 27 2011 01:29 Curu wrote: Right, but you had this: Actually this makes you look worse if Mig flips red, since you commented on your next leading wagon but never actually voted. Two scum wagons on day 2 is a very real possibility. Thanks for pointing that out for me, I missed it the first time around. Why is this thread so dead... So I was mafia because I voted Mig and now I'm mafia because I didn't vote Mig. And although you are basing your accusation on Foolishness' theory about the connection between the wagon for me and the reduced pressure on Mig, now you think I'm mafia even if Mig flips red. Right. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 27 2011 01:52 xtfftc wrote: So I was mafia because I voted Mig and now I'm mafia because I didn't vote Mig. And although you are basing your accusation on Foolishness' theory about the connection between the wagon for me and the reduced pressure on Mig, now you think I'm mafia even if Mig flips red. Right. I think you're Mafia because you've been scummy as hell. At first I thought about it from the you/Mig being opposite alignments angle and found that it wasn't implausible for you to be Mafia if Mig were to flip Town. Either way he flips you should still be a topic for discussion because there's reasonable explanations going both ways now. I'm not saying it's absolute but you should absolutely not be let off the hook no matter what Mig flips at this point. Also hi scumatlarge. | ||
Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On August 27 2011 01:46 chaoser wrote: What bullshit, mig is obviously lying. He claims tracker, says he's got breadcrumbs but if you look, all of them are from the PREVIOUS DAY. Basically he's mafia, got scared cause he was close to lynch until some of this mafia friends fucked with the lynch yesterday so he thought up a fake claim plan over the night to save his ass.Lynch him please! We've gone three days without lynching him and letting him get away, don't let him get away again! I hope you are right. ##Vote Mig | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 27 2011 01:44 supersoft wrote: by the way, I am not going to lynch BB instead of mig. sorry, I think mig is the safer bet there. Actually I thought about it and I have to say I am lynching noone instead of mig today. We discussed this lynch pretty decently. And if we try to find new target now just because he claimed to be tracker, it will end in a mess. You know, what would you do if you're accused like mig and GM offers you a fakerole... Of course he's a tracker. This is the most valuable role we got except for vigilantes... I don't believe him and his claim... it doesn't change anything, this specific role casts even more suspicion over him :-[ I agree strongly with this. We kill Mig. On August 27 2011 01:45 GMarshal wrote: Bumatlarge replaces BrownBear Wtf? Did he request replacement? This replacement can really mess with our leads on BB. I say we lay off bumatlarge for a day or two; lynch Mig and then follow our other scum leads. However, I do think that we should put an extra layer on scrutiny on him because of how we all perceived BB before the replacement. On August 27 2011 00:30 Foolishness wrote: We can always just kill BrownBear and settle this Mig thing tomorrow. My case against BrownBear still stands as he hasn't even posted yet today, and he's only got 11 hours before day ends. I do believe that Mig is lying, but part of me feels that we should just take the safest option here. If he's indeed the tracker, it will force the mafia to roleblock him (or they risk him finding a mafia so once he does die we will know who to lynch). Of course we will make him check whoever we want (Pyo). I also do not believe chaos13 to be mafia. And Mig you never commented about my lurker list. I disagree with your assessment of who we should lynch because of the Brownbear replacement. I know it came after your post, but even if BB wasn't replaced I would still prefer an Mig lynch. The safest option to me is lynching the fuck out of scumig. On August 26 2011 22:43 supersoft wrote: "Oh, wow. Curu and Supersoft appear simultaneously 36 hours before the deadline and announce that I have refused to vote for Mig, although there are 15 others who haven't at the time. Wow." There are exactly 7 people that refused to vote for rayzorflahs at day1 and also didn't vote either you or mig at day2 You are one of them. I have been suspicious of most of them earlier and with different reasons. Kurumi is not one of them. You accused him, that strengthens my concerns. Until I am proven wrong by mig, rayzor or you flipping green, I continue to push this. Your vote on mig at this point of time doesn't change anything. You know I have something good against you there. That's the reason, why you're talking to me again. Thank you. It's hard for me to tell whether xtfftc is appearing scummy or if he's just defending himself. To me, I think I have to disagree with you here, supersoft. It's very well possible that xt is talking to you simply to defend himself. He's been attacked by quite a few of us, and the way he has defended most of the accusations suggests to me that he's town. The reason I'm unsure about him, though, is precisely because so many of us have accused him. It's hard to quantify, but I think we should keep xt in mind but not lynch him until we have no better scum target. Since we have Mig and Rayzor still alive, let's give xt a chance to contribute. We can lynch Mig, and then our focus will reshift. Also, I'm not sure what kind of connection Mig's alignment will have with xt's, if any. I felt like they might both be mafia because of the way the voting worked yesterday; after hiro made a mistake it's certainly possible that the mafia saw an opportunity to capitalize, if both Mig and xt are scum. The vote switch to hiro would then not appear scummy because hiro's mistakes made everyone suspect him. So, to reiterate, if we were in the optimal situation of lynching two mafia yesterday before the hiro happenstance, then Mig's red alignment probably suggests xt is red as well. We need to figure out whether we were in that situation, and I think we can figure that out by looking at the vote patterns. On August 27 2011 02:02 Curu wrote: Also hi scumatlarge. I loled. On August 27 2011 00:43 supersoft wrote: I agree with you to take the safest option, but i'd prefer rayzorflash for that job. Kill Mig first, then we can deal with Rayzor. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Apparently Irene is really screwing with his travel plans and he would be MIA for the next 72+ hours, so he requested replacement. Bumatlarge took me up on it. BrownBear apologizes profusely for the inconvenience | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 27 2011 02:47 GMarshal wrote: Apparently Irene is really screwing with his travel plans and he would be MIA for the next 72+ hours, so he requested replacement. Bumatlarge took me up on it. BrownBear apologizes profusely for the inconvenience Ah, thanks. Irene, you bitch. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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