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On January 24 2012 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
really? I'm already a proven fucking mason dickweed. -_- I've masoned protract, roba, foolishness and meapak. thats 4 uses. So you could argue I am red and that 3 of those people are red as well as a jack cannot use the same ability twice. So what is it?
Meapak myself and foolishness all red to support your theory.
Also, your trying to make a case of me using the past context of a word. I was a mason then, I am a mason now, I will continue being a mason in the future.
Why the hell are you guys making cases off of grammar when you're not doing event doing it properly?
Funny that you list Sandroba(your first mason "target") as your second.
Show me Meapak logs please right now and ill reconsider my vote.
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On January 24 2012 08:18 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
really? I'm already a proven fucking mason dickweed. -_- I've masoned protract, roba, foolishness and meapak. thats 4 uses. So you could argue I am red and that 3 of those people are red as well as a jack cannot use the same ability twice. So what is it?
Meapak myself and foolishness all red to support your theory.
Also, your trying to make a case of me using the past context of a word. I was a mason then, I am a mason now, I will continue being a mason in the future.
Why the hell are you guys making cases off of grammar when you're not doing event doing it properly? Funny that you list Sandroba(your first mason "target") as your second. Show me Meapak logs please right now and ill reconsider my vote.
Note to self, remember this post.
It's where I started doubting Cwave and p4NDemik are town.
BC's getting a lot of flak, and realisitically, he seems unlikely to be scum, quadruply so if/when BM flips scum.
Rather than push other scummier looking people, those two push someone who has already had tons of time in the spotlight.
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On January 24 2012 03:07 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 02:54 Jitsu wrote:On January 23 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:
jitsu asked?
BM, i want all your pm traffic.
censor the bg names please. We've been over this. Why the sudden revelation now? C_C got on my case about it earlier, pretty hard in fact. Not sure what to make of the recent BM post. He's lied several times this game, and it's stuff that could potentially hurt town, I feel. I'm not sure if this is his last gambit to not get lynched, but he's reasoning behind the MH claim *kinda* makes sense. My only thing is that a lot of what i'm reading is "Bill being Bill." I hate this meta talk, even though it's a huge part of TL Mafia, and since I don't know Bill's meta at all, I don't know what to think. I would say we should delay his lynching, but than, lies upon lies upon lies will unravel and it seems they are starting to do that now. So undecided, it's not funny. I would still like to see glurio dead. I've been pretty vocal about it and won't cease, either. If an individual that was capable of only typing X suddenly started typing Y you would notice. It goes beyond meta. It's Bill Murray. I spent 3 pages fighting with his smurf in a game until he was mod killed. He was town in that game but his play was the same as it is here in this game. Lies and deceit. It's Bill Murray. Whether he's town or scum doesn't matter. This is how he plays. I don't profess to understand it I simply recognize it. Anybody that claims they can determine his alignment by his actions is lying. All I know is he has the same 20% chance of being scum as the rest of you did at the beginning of the game. However he will be the topic of 90% of the discussion while he's in the game.As such his alignment no longer matters.
That makes Foolishness intentionally pushing BM into the spotlight right from the get-go seem scummy.
I wouldn't be surprised if BC/BM are town, and Foolishness is pulling the strings.
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I think Foolish only playing the game exclusively outside the thread is scummy as hell - but that could be just me.
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Oh, I forgot about the Kita/OpZ logs:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13236558
Some evasive stuff from OpZ. Dodges questions on Bill Murray and L, doesn't volunteer any theories on nightkills. Does that "Quid pro quo, Clarice" thing but doesn't ask any questions himself. Not sure there's any reason for a townie to be that tight-lipped.
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hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.
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On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.
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On January 24 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:Oh, I forgot about the Kita/OpZ logs: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13236558Some evasive stuff from OpZ. Dodges questions on Bill Murray and L, doesn't volunteer any theories on nightkills. Does that "Quid pro quo, Clarice" thing but doesn't ask any questions himself. Not sure there's any reason for a townie to be that tight-lipped.
Tbh Kita was very reserved.
While reading them, I noticed the same thing as you did. When asked about BM, he goes offline. No reasoning why he didn't mason L, who he voted for.
This is especially interesting considering he answered all the other questions. hmm.
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On January 24 2012 07:35 Toadesstern wrote:
well it's something like this:
if BM flips green I'd like to lynch BC+opz tomorrow.
If BM flips red I'd like to lynch ops + someone else
I agree with this post a lot.
I just read over opz filter, and it just doesn't look good. I'd suggest anyone who hasn't should read through it.
I believe no matter what BM flips, opz should be one part of the double lynch.
BC we have to look into if BM flips town, he really pushed hard for BM lynch.
Right now i'd like to wait for BMs flip. After that some things should be easier.
I do mason with someone this cycle, he or i will post logs in the night. At the moment we're just bouncing ideas around.
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On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.
I'm missing glurio. Where did foolishness come from? I checked your filter you made one tiny post about him in the last 4 days or so. Is there even a case against him?
BB might be the ideal scum bodyguard, you might be right here.
Hiro stays town until proven otherwise. Setup reasonings are NOT valid.
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kitaman27
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Opz wrote:
btw. I was just perusing the thread. Your post on Bill Murray sucks. Or I'm just reading impaired.
I felt this was the weirdest comment made by opz. He calls the following post "bad", but doesn't explain why. I think they seem like pretty legitimate questions. Does he have knowledge that BM will flip town or something?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2012 07:52 kitaman27 wrote:Would you please respond to these few remarks BM? Thanks. Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 19:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Are people open to me lynching a mason claim if I come into office? If so, I'll be lynching OpZ or Mattchew. Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 15:46 Bill Murray wrote:
That fucking sucks Matt got modkilled. He was pretty confirmed with his masoning of Foolishness in my eyes. Uhh, what happened here? He goes from one of your lynch candidates to confirmed town without any reference in between? + Show Spoiler +On January 13 2012 16:25 Bill Murray wrote:
I have a towntell on someone, as well to top shit off On January 13 2012 16:26 Bill Murray wrote:
I have a legitimate towntell from someone else On January 17 2012 11:53 Bill Murray wrote:
I have a confirmed town, too, pretty much On January 17 2012 20:29 Bill Murray wrote:
kita, in regards to your list of lurkers, I view two of them as town for certain reasons What is the point of these generic "towntell" posts. Do you think they benefit the thread or do they only serve to make you look good? Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:10 Bill Murray wrote:
WBG I am trying to jail to lower their KP
Could you explain your reasoning at this point? Here is the mafia kp chart: KP - # 4 - 10 4 - 9 4 - 8 3 - 7 On night 1, there were ten mafia alive. Therefore to lower the kp, you would have to jail three different scum players. I'm pretty sure that's not possible. Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 20:20 Bill Murray wrote:
I know Lanaia from IRC, if she's town she's a great scumhunter
Jailing foolishness is a waste when he's definitely going to be protected by a doctor You clarify it here. So you're protecting her because you thought she was town? I thought it was to reduce the scum kp? Wasn't she on your scum list? Could you please elaborate on your intentions? Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok, guys, I've passed on the names of the BGs to the 2 masons that masoned me
the other guy townslipped in PMs with me Why are you so trusting with something as important as the BG names? So now you're claiming madhatter because you want one more day to live. Who is your bomb on? You can't be roleblocked, so there is no harm in revealing.
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The continuous log posting by BC is honestly pretty good evidence; BM's flip will tell more but atm, is anyone really believing BM? ...no one has really commented on BM's past, but if this is his "town" play I shudder to see him as mafia.
People discrediting BC, you're running off of weak grounds tbh.
How has meapak been erased from people's radars? A lot of people seemed very sure of his redness a few days ago.
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On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.
Where's he at??????
And I still think you're scummy.
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JayJay - it's not based on setup alone - it's based on the timing of his claim, the information he's provided and meta. The setup discussion is just a means to get people to look at the REST of my case, which admittedly is spread out over the course of a few posts. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why townHiro would refuse to out his reports the night after he claims loudly in-thread?
Foolishness is new - but the longer he stays alive, the more suspicious he becomes because he's a strong vet. Same with BC. At the moment, my read on Foolish is based on the fact that he's playing the game almost exclusively out-of-thread and the fact that he put BM up for mayor. My read on him is pretty dependent on other factors, because I have almost nothing to base it off in-thread.
I'm not interested in lynching glurio. He seems newish town to me.
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On January 24 2012 03:20 supersoft wrote:
“We've been over this. Why the sudden revelation now? C_C got on my case about it earlier, pretty hard in fact.“
actually i am really not over this. I think if you flip red, BC and BM are confirmed town for me.
And you still gave me no logs.
Why?
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On January 24 2012 09:04 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless. Where's he at?????? And I still think you're scummy.
Yeah, I don't care. I'm around because scum want to see me lynched...so if you wanna play the "I still think you're scummy" card, put a vote down or shut up about it.
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On January 24 2012 09:01 EchelonTee wrote:
The continuous log posting by BC is honestly pretty good evidence; BM's flip will tell more but atm, is anyone really believing BM? ...no one has really commented on BM's past, but if this is his "town" play I shudder to see him as mafia.
People discrediting BC, you're running off of weak grounds tbh.
How has meapak been erased from people's radars? A lot of people seemed very sure of his redness a few days ago.
What will BMs flip tell us? If he's town what does that tell? If he's scum what does that tell?
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On January 24 2012 09:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:04 Jackal58 wrote:On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless. Where's he at?????? And I still think you're scummy. Yeah, I don't care. I'm around because scum want to see me lynched...so if you wanna play the "I still think you're scummy" card, put a vote down or shut up about it.
Ooooohhhhh.
Eventually.
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On January 24 2012 09:08 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 24 2012 09:04 Jackal58 wrote:On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless. Where's he at?????? And I still think you're scummy. Yeah, I don't care. I'm around because scum want to see me lynched...so if you wanna play the "I still think you're scummy" card, put a vote down or shut up about it. Ooooohhhhh. Eventually.
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And where's he at Visc? You didn't answer. Where is BC on your list. Cause you didn't put him on your list.
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