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On January 24 2012 06:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok so here's how I see this. Six scum left. I have Glurio and opz down as scum due to glurio's slip that there are two masons and opz's scummy play makes him the best candidate for that second scum mason.

I have hiro as scum for a lot of reasons. He screwed up the format on his check, he claimed a check on someone who was almost assured to die, he didn't die last night, he refuses to release the name of his other check, he claimed roleblocked when the only other person to claim rb was the gf, his reads are waaaaay to good especially when compared to townie hiro, and he refuses to cooperate here in the thread. All of this has convinced me that he's scum.

These are my most assured reads, however that leaves three people left.

I feel good about a BM lynch. I hear all those who are making meta arguments against him, however he's just acted far too anti-town for me to justify a meta argument. He's lied more times then I can count. He hasn't jailed high priority targets, his reads have been all over the place. At this point he's become a distraction that's hurting the town and all he has going for him are meta arguments.

Two more people, I think the last two scum will be in the: bum, bb, nisani201, munk-e, and kenpachi crowd. I'll need to take a closer look at these people and weed out the scum from there.

Also people need to vote DL, we have a lot of scum to kill and I think between opz, glurio, and hiro we have enough targets to justify a dl. Right now we really need to lower scum kp and the dl will do it.

Mafia
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in your mafia. You may kill your own members. Mafia killing power will be determined when the game begins. You also must choose the Godfather, Roleblocker, Jack, and/or Framer from among yourselves.

You also must choose the Godfather, Roleblocker, Jack, and/or Framer from among yourselves. These [potentially] four Mafia power roles must be separately distributed, meaning one Mafia member can only possess one of these powers.

On January 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:
could someone tell me who claimed mason and link it if I missed it?
I know bc claimed mason
I know opz claimed mason
I know jitsu claimed mason
I know supersoft claimed mason

am I missing someone?

On January 24 2012 07:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
My bad, Glurio wasn't the one who slipped, it was someone who got replaced, I'll have to go find out who.

Also, scum doesn't necessarily have all their roles, from the OP:

Given that only the gf and an extremely suspicious dt have claimed rb'd I think it's highly likely there isn't a dt.

On January 14 2012 06:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm still wondering the proper benefits to the mass mason claim. I'm neutral as again, the role seems rather bland for the town this game. Being a mason doesn't confirm you. I'd like to know the general town consensus.

So far I see Sandroba screaming for mass mason claim. Which I suppose all of the whisperers being public knowledge would be a good thing. But I don't wanna feel like sheep. I suppose theres no way around it though, or that its really important. I'm Mason #2. And I mason'd BC. But he won't talk to me. *cries*

On January 24 2012 03:58 Bill Murray wrote:

yeah he obviously slipped there
im sure brownbear will confirm it
let me go double check

On January 24 2012 07:13 Toadesstern wrote:
fine, add cwawe to the list as well, doesn't change a thing

On January 24 2012 07:14 BrownBear wrote:
I should clarify. BM has outed me as a "bodyguard", and in the interest of not lying to town and hopefully cutting a little bit of the craziness out of this mess BM's created, I've decided to tell the truth - I am in fact a BG. I was hesitant at first for obvious reasons, but this is going to get talked to death over the course of the day and waste valuable time, and I just want what I can control to be cleared up, so I'm not "guilty by association" if BM happens to flip red.

That is all.

On January 24 2012 07:10 Toadesstern wrote:
ok glurio right, forgot about him, that makes:
BC
Supersoft
opz
jitsu
glurio

I'd say out of those two BC & opz sounds reasonable or only BC. This is speculation but let me explain my train of thoughts:
What we lynched so far: Godfather + Goon + Goon + Goon
So 6 people are left and we only found 1 powerrole, their beloved godfather. Let's just assume mafia HAS at least 1 mason. Do you think they would give mason powers to people like jitsu? I mean mason? They could give him another power role, no problem because those new people get away with lurking way more than people like BC. Therefore he's more safe and they can talk about how he would use it. Let me get this clear: I am NOT sayin jitsu is mafia, it's a thought experiment (wtf, dict.cc says it's "Gedankenexperiment" in english as well? That's german :p ).
Especially mason is hard to do for new players so BC makes perfect sense. Also Godfather on L makes perfect sense if BC is mayor because they don't need to godfather BC if he gets mayor. He's immune to DT's.

Given what I just said and yes it is speculation it sounds perfectly reasonable that BC might as well be a Mason and those other 3 power roles might or might now be hidden within lurkers. However again, I doubt mafia would give people like glurio or jitsu mason. I could see opz or Supersoft as reasonable but other than that?
Of course that implies that there's no other masons around who did not claim until now but since noone said a thing I'd say there's noone left. If there is another mason or you've been masoned by someone you're a moron and need to tell us.

I really don't see how mafia gave mason powers to someone like I already mentioned. Why did L flip without mason? Why did Sandroba flip without mason? Because there's another good player in here who's got mason powers, and that player is BC.

On January 24 2012 07:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Do you think I faked logs day 1?
Do you think if I was a mason rather than masoning a town member I would "mason a mafia"?
Do you think that I would ever expose myself in pm's when I could easily fake them for my team members with little to no heat on myself?

Opz and glurio are the clearly best choices for the mafia masons. If you truly believe I am red analyze me please. Talking about "what makes sense" when you completely ignore the continued use of my role thus far this game is hilarious.

If I was mafia, do you really think I would wait 2 days of letting protract rape my team before killing him?

You can say all those points are wifom, however you are basing an entire argument on guess work and not real analysis. It is all speculation that at no point in time can be proven. Make a real case, don't pretend to make real cases.

On January 24 2012 07:19 Cwave wrote:


Well then BloodyCobbler has lied about not listing one of his bodyguards!

On January 24 2012 07:23 Cwave wrote:


Hello mafia jack!!!
If you "were" a mason"?
You ARE a mason or so you claimed............!

##VOTE: BloodyC0bbler