TL Mafia L - Page 197

On January 24 2012 08:47 VisceraEyes wrote:

hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, Foolishness, risk.nuke

That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.

I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.

On January 24 2012 09:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
JayJay - it's not based on setup alone - it's based on the timing of his claim, the information he's provided and meta. The setup discussion is just a means to get people to look at the REST of my case, which admittedly is spread out over the course of a few posts. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why townHiro would refuse to out his reports the night after he claims loudly in-thread?

I'm not interested in lynching glurio. He seems newish town to me.

On January 24 2012 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I meant that if BM flips town, then BC belongs where BM is at on my list because I believe that one of them is scum.

On January 24 2012 09:15 jaj22 wrote:
Wondering about the BM meta thing yet again, so I compiled a list of the opinions of veterans who I think have played with Bill. Correct me if I'm wrong:

Kitaman: Reckons he's scum.
Foolishness: Reckons he's scum.
Protactinium: Reckons he's scum.
Brownbear: Reckons he's unreadable (day 4), switched vote to him silently six hours later.
OpZ: Reckoned he was plausible town-BM (late day 2).

I think OpZ and Brownbear are scum anyway, so the most likely conclusion is that Bill Murray is scum too.

On January 24 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote:


yea, I read all of your posts on that topic and I always respond the same:

why wouldn't he provide the additional information and reports if he was scum. As scum you seek towncred, which means if you gonna falseclaim, get something for you out of it. He doesn't. He could easily name a confirmed townie or so as the second report and he could have easily said sandros role as scum. To me, not posting these things is actually a towntell with a reason we don't know yet. Oh and the RB might have been a jack action.

=> his play seems even worse from a scum point of view.

also, according to some posts in this game, glurio is a VET and great bluehunter. So, I guess newish town doesn't work here.

On January 24 2012 09:15 Jackal58 wrote:

So answer me this. If BM is town how does that make BC scummy? Cause I'm pretty sure the safer bet is if BM is scum so is BC. We have no dead bodyguards. If BM is red and BC is green we would have at least one dead one by now if the body guards are town. The only thing with anycertainty I can get out of this lynch is that whatever BM is BC and his body guards are the same.

On January 24 2012 09:21 Jayjay54 wrote:


if both are scum, why would they switch the bodyguards? There is no benefit. I'd keep them blue and kill one at some point.

On January 24 2012 09:15 Jackal58 wrote:

So answer me this. If BM is town how does that make BC scummy? Cause I'm pretty sure the safer bet is if BM is scum so is BC. We have no dead bodyguards. If BM is red and BC is green we would have at least one dead one by now if the body guards are town. The only thing with anycertainty I can get out of this lynch is that whatever BM is BC and his body guards are the same.

On January 24 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
If he is scum, he doesn't want to get the role information wrong, obviously, or it would out him as scum. He doesn't want to give the reports because then everyone will KNOW THAT HE'S SCUM! This isn't that hard.

"As scum you seek towncred, which means if you gonna falseclaim, get something for you out of it. He doesn't."
He doesn't need to! Look at you, all in here defending him taking NO action! He doesn't need 'town-cred' by 'outing reports' because he's got all he needs from calling out an obvious scum who was about to get lynched as scum. So you're literally saying that him possibly rendering his other reports completely useless by dying overnight WITHOUT OUTING HIS OTHER REPORTS as a "town-tell" huh? Really? Really really? How'd you come upon this conclusion Jay, I gots ta know. This is getting ridiculous.

But until then, why is the lack of one of your suspects suspicious to you? Why are you even mentioning it?

On January 24 2012 09:22 Jackal58 wrote:

Yes. Goes to my point that what BM is BC is most likely as well

On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:


As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong. Because he is freaking scum. You said this point before and it makes ZEEERO sense. If he's a DT he has the full role information, if he's scum he has them too. And he also could provide right reports, because as scum OR DT he has a right report ready. Think a little.

I am saying he doesn't really care what people think of him and to me (and may just to me) this is a towntell. Yes. He'd act differently as scum imo. And please be more aggressive.

On January 24 2012 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote:


Wait wait, you're saying that scum have Role information? That's what you're assuming? That scum have everyone's role IN ADDITION to their alignment?

Seriously? This is what you're arguing with me right now? That scum know the roles of everyone in the game, and would never be wrong by faking a DT claim? That would be broken as fuck guy! Scum don't know who are vets and who are DTs and who are masons! What the actual fuck are you talking about?

On January 24 2012 09:35 Jayjay54 wrote:


Oh, I misunderstood you.

You were arguing earlier about not telling sandro's role which he obviously knew either way.

Now you are refering to the role of the second person. I got that wrong. Sorry chief.

On January 21 2012 10:11 VisceraEyes wrote:


Holy crap Toad.

Does the detective get role, alignment, or role and alignment in his checks?

On January 22 2012 02:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also Hiro, why did you leave off the role information from your report? That information is just as important as the alignment because it gives us more information as to the topography of powers the scumteam has. Why did you just say "red check"?

On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong.

On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong.