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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:21 GMT
#221
all the talk about rival claiming is rubbish btw, its not in the interest of rivals to claim, so its not going to happen. for example:
Riv1: im rival with riv2
riv2 : no he isnt.
riv1 dies a horrible dead and riv 2 wins. Also if the become confirmed town there is no way they can lynch the other, wether its best for the town or not, there is no way in hell rivals are going to claim. Any 2 rivals that do claim are probably scum covering each other.
dr Helvetica <3
Sknowman
Profile Joined August 2011
55 Posts
August 14 2011 22:24 GMT
#222
On August 15 2011 07:16 Forumite wrote:
EBWOP

In case it wasn´t clear, I´m against mass claiming.


You weren't. In fact, you didn't provide a stance at all.
DroneAllDay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States140 Posts
August 14 2011 22:24 GMT
#223
On August 15 2011 07:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
all the talk about rival claiming is rubbish btw, its not in the interest of rivals to claim, so its not going to happen. for example:
Riv1: im rival with riv2
riv2 : no he isnt.
riv1 dies a horrible dead and riv 2 wins. Also if the become confirmed town there is no way they can lynch the other, wether its best for the town or not, there is no way in hell rivals are going to claim. Any 2 rivals that do claim are probably scum covering each other.

This very much makes and overall rivals shouldn't be important for all of the non-rivals (keep an eye out for any claims that seem like it just comes from another rival) but other than that we should really ignore the matter.

As for role-claiming I'm against it for now as all it does at this point is help the mafia pick targets.
If anyone disagrees I'd be glad to hear why.
Don't pressure me please, I like my drones too much
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 14 2011 22:25 GMT
#224
On August 15 2011 07:14 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:10 Forumite wrote:
Mass claiming, I haven´t seen that many arguments for or against, mostly it´s people just agreeing. Those in Dropbears post are powerfull roles (except the Rival), isn´t claiming just giving ammo to the scum? Does knowing those roles help Town? Doesn´t it help Scum more than it helps Town?

There might be benefit to Rival claiming, if they all claim, and that is that scum can´t claim rival later on, to defend themselves when they are accused of tunneling without reason. We can´t know if everyone claims, though, so people can still do it.

XYZ i dont have an opinion, people seem to agree with it though. What if scum scums out?
Maybe its good though. Buy maybe it isnt.
##vote forumite
What´s your reasoning?
:3
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:27 GMT
#225
i would go as far to say that claiming rival is extremely scumm, varp made a very good point in irc :

[00:24] <Varpulis> one thing that we can't let happen is scum saying "he was my rival, I had to get him lynched" after leading a shitty bandwagon against an obvious townie

i agree, but lets catch some scum now that we agreed to ignore rivals.
dr Helvetica <3
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#226
On August 09 2011 01:00 Ciryandor wrote:

I will not compensate for ignorance!

i kinda agree, you have to figure my incredibly subtle accusations out yourself.
dr Helvetica <3
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#227
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 22:44 GMT
#228
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#229
On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.


why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 14 2011 22:47 GMT
#230
wait navillus is in this game?

what do you think about what's been going on? Do you agree with dropbear's plan? do you think that Forumite is scummy?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 22:47 GMT
#231
Also on claiming I'm not policy opposed to claims but I think that for it to work someone needs to figure out exactly who should claim, what we do with them when they do, and what we do with people who should have claimed and didn't. This has not been done and it doesn't look like it will be done so I'm against claiming here, especially because in this game we can't know if someone should have claimed and didn't until it's probably too late we know the traits that need claiming not the people so overall I don't think anyone should claim today just for the sake of claiming.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 22:51 GMT
#232
On August 15 2011 07:46 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.


why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything.


Because if my read is right on him he could easily make himself look scummier by acting nooby again while not actually making him any more likely to be scum.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 22:52 GMT
#233
On August 15 2011 07:47 Navillus wrote:
Also on claiming I'm not policy opposed to claims but I think that for it to work someone needs to figure out exactly who should claim, what we do with them when they do, and what we do with people who should have claimed and didn't. This has not been done and it doesn't look like it will be done so I'm against claiming here, especially because in this game we can't know if someone should have claimed and didn't until it's probably too late we know the traits that need claiming not the people so overall I don't think anyone should claim today just for the sake of claiming.

I didn't not so what I think I am is how the will this be.
Makes fucking sense to me.
Life can only kill you once.
Sknowman
Profile Joined August 2011
55 Posts
August 14 2011 22:53 GMT
#234
On August 15 2011 07:47 Navillus wrote:
Also on claiming I'm not policy opposed to claims but I think that for it to work someone needs to figure out exactly who should claim, what we do with them when they do, and what we do with people who should have claimed and didn't. This has not been done and it doesn't look like it will be done so I'm against claiming here, especially because in this game we can't know if someone should have claimed and didn't until it's probably too late we know the traits that need claiming not the people so overall I don't think anyone should claim today just for the sake of claiming.


Thanks for contributing nothing and trying to confuse the fuck out us.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 22:54 GMT
#235
Jackal would you like me to use smaller words for you, ok I'll try to speak slowly.

I am ok with claims under some circumstances.

This is not one of them.

Don't claim.

Simple enough?
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 22:57 GMT
#236
Bleh yes I have a confusing way of writing and use too many run on sentences, but I just gave you my clear opinion. I am not trying to be confusing or hide my actual stance it's just bad writing.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#237
On August 15 2011 07:54 Navillus wrote:
Jackal would you like me to use smaller words for you, ok I'll try to speak slowly.

I am ok with claims under some circumstances.

This is not one of them.

Don't claim.

Simple enough?

I'm fluent in jibberish. Allow me to translate what you really said.
I'm ok with role claiming. Except for people that shouldn't role claim. But those that should had better do so but how will we know who should and didn't.

That's what you said.
Life can only kill you once.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#238
Ok seriously I apologize for the bad writing I really am not trying to be confusing and again I am being clear about my stance, I am against claiming traits for the first few days of this game it does not seem useful and people won't do it.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#239
On August 15 2011 07:51 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:46 Trotske wrote:
On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.


why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything.


Because if my read is right on him he could easily make himself look scummier by acting nooby again while not actually making him any more likely to be scum.

ok you are saying this:
1) hes town
2) hes noob
3) you guys cant see the difference
4) i just saved an innocent :D
you know newbs also have a chance to spawn scum right? I agree its a coinflip with newer players so id say a dt check on him would be more then welcome, but you cant just shoot down the pressure because you feel hes town and think we cant handle the reaction you think he would give.

you see whats wrong with that?
dr Helvetica <3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#240
On August 15 2011 08:01 Navillus wrote:
Ok seriously I apologize for the bad writing I really am not trying to be confusing and again I am being clear about my stance, I am against claiming traits for the first few days of this game it does not seem useful and people won't do it.

It's ok man. I poke everybody now and then.
Life can only kill you once.
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