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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 16:28:21
July 11 2011 16:20 GMT
#41
Do the contract terms have to involve actions or can they be statements as well? I'm assuming the former as this would be too breakable otherwise

e: what I'm saying here is that since town outnumbers mafia, there's no anonymity and town will know if someone doesn't agree to send the contract, they can completely control what kind of contracts get made
LSB Banking
Profile Joined March 2011
48 Posts
July 11 2011 16:34 GMT
#42
On July 12 2011 01:20 syllogism wrote:
Do the contract terms have to involve actions or can they be statements as well? I'm assuming the former as this would be too breakable otherwise

To help you think about it, I've gone onto an alt account.


All contracts will be carried out by me, LSB Banking (You should still PM LSB for your contracts).

Think of LSB Banking as the 12th player with this role PM
Alignment: Mod
Ability: You can transfer items on a players request
Inventory:You have an invincibility token. With the invincibility token you cannot be the target of actions and cannot be lynched


Current Inventory: Invincibility token.


So what can LSB Banking see? Actually less than you can. For example, lets say you put this contract

Syllogism
Gives all his items and money if Syllogism is mafia
LSB
Gets killed if LSB is mafia

There are multiple problems with this contract
1) LSB Banking cannot tell the alignment of players until they filp, just like you
2) Since LSB Banking does not know a person's inventory, Syllogism can hand over three cents and lie and say that it's "all his money"
3) LSB Banking doesn't have any KP, so he can't kill LSB.
This is a multipurpose account to help with hosting mafia games
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 11 2011 16:36 GMT
#43
I see, it makes sense now. In that case

/in
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 16:39 GMT
#44
Game will be starting at 11:00KST today.
Signups are closed
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 11 2011 16:40 GMT
#45
well there goes the make a contract to make everyone reveal their true alignment and have them be modkilled if they lie...
Moderator
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 16:43:45
July 11 2011 16:43 GMT
#46
LSB, Nisani said he wants to play
On July 08 2011 12:42 Nisani201 wrote:
Doesn't look like Asylum is going to start soon, so I'll just /in instead of being a replacement.

I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 11 2011 16:43 GMT
#47
I can sit out if Nisani signed up earlier
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2011 16:44 GMT
#48
On July 12 2011 01:43 syllogism wrote:
I can sit out if Nisani signed up earlier

Yeah I can give my slot to Nisani too.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#49
The game has be modified into a 12 player game. There is an additional SK
My apologies Nisani
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#50
nice fix
Computer says mafia
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 17:09 GMT
#51
I just really hope that this time the game makes it past day 2
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#52
If you pay someone to make them claim their role, and they lie, do they get punished?
Enjoy your day.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 17:55 GMT
#53
On July 12 2011 02:53 Nisani201 wrote:
If you pay someone to make them claim their role, and they lie, do they get punished?

Nope, because LSB Banking has no way of verifying role claims
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 11 2011 18:45 GMT
#54
OK, just making sure.
Enjoy your day.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 11 2011 19:36 GMT
#55
Perfect timing as I just died in WaW though I might not be active tonight.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
July 11 2011 19:49 GMT
#56
So in your example LSB:

+ Show Spoiler +
LSB
Pay 2,000,000 Kronos
Artanis[Xp]
Kill Foolishness before the start of day 3


presumably as long as Foolishness died before day 3 the contract is valid. Artanis doesn't actually have to do the killing, since LSB Banking wouldn't know who did the night kill anyways.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#57
On July 12 2011 01:17 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 01:07 syllogism wrote:
Do you get informed if the other person does not send the contract PM to the host?

Indeed, I'll help you guys setup contracts, that means that I'll PM you guys (to a certain degree) if contracts are not complete / not the same / doesn't do what you think they should do.

New Rule:
LSB Banking will charge a service fee of 10,000 Kronos for each contract it handles at the end of the day.
(I'm greedy :D)


1 more person till game starts! Quick signup!

So does the initiator of the contract play you 10,000 Kronos, is it split evenly (5,000 each), or what?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#58
More questions answered

On July 12 2011 04:49 Radfield wrote:
So in your example LSB:

+ Show Spoiler +
LSB
Pay 2,000,000 Kronos
Artanis[Xp]
Kill Foolishness before the start of day 3


presumably as long as Foolishness died before day 3 the contract is valid. Artanis doesn't actually have to do the killing, since LSB Banking wouldn't know who did the night kill anyways.

Indeed.



Financial Instrument: The Trust
What is a trust?
A trust is an agreement between two players to share resources under certain situations.
What happens is that the players send their items into a new bank account under LSB Banking. LSB Banking will allow players to use the items and money whenever they want.
Should the other player in the trust provide proof that their contract was violated, the violator will be punished

How many players can be in a trust
In this run of Merc Mafia, only 2 players can be in a trust.

How do I set up a trust?
In addition to a service fee of 100,000 Kronos. Both players have to PM me this

+ Show Spoiler +

Create a trust
Name: [a name]
Conditions: [Conditions for use of items]

[Player 1]
[Items deposited]

[Player 2]
[Items deposited]


For example

Create a trust
Name: LSB Holdings
Conditions:
Artanis[Xp] may only use the money to fund narcotics missions
LSB may only use the drugs for personal usage

LSB
1,000,000 Kronos

Artanis[Xp]
2 doses of Murryamine


What do Trustee's know about the item?
They only can see what the item is

What happens if a Trustee dies?
Well the other Trustee can do whatever they want with the items, because the first trustee is no longer alive to lodge a formal complaint.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 21:44 GMT
#59
Please note, the OP will be revamped. I've realized that the game needs to have more formalized rules spelled out in the OP in order for it to work

No rules will be changed. Just everything will make more sense.

On July 12 2011 06:43 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 01:17 LSB wrote:
On July 12 2011 01:07 syllogism wrote:
Do you get informed if the other person does not send the contract PM to the host?

Indeed, I'll help you guys setup contracts, that means that I'll PM you guys (to a certain degree) if contracts are not complete / not the same / doesn't do what you think they should do.

New Rule:
LSB Banking will charge a service fee of 10,000 Kronos for each contract it handles at the end of the day.
(I'm greedy :D)


1 more person till game starts! Quick signup!

So does the initiator of the contract play you 10,000 Kronos, is it split evenly (5,000 each), or what?

Each
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
July 11 2011 21:45 GMT
#60
Also, if you wish to make some other kind of financial instrument, run it by me, I'll probably approve it and set up formal rules about it

Dunno what you would do.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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