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Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 20 2011 02:19 GMT
#1061
This is a compilation of all of coagulation's posts: + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2011 12:33 Coagulation wrote:
Heres the list of newbs and vets in the game.
1. snotboogie Newb
2. Deconduo Vet
3. Kurumi NEWB LOL
4. curu Newb
5. RebirthofLegend Vet
6. Amber[LighT] Vet
7. hiro protagonist Newb
8. nisani201 Newb
9. Pyo Newb
10.Drazerk Newb
11. supersoft Newb
12. Jackal58 LOL
13. Mr. Wiggles Vet
14. prplhz Newb
15. mig Newb
16. notasmurf Newb
17. kenpachi LOL
18. Syllogism Newb
19. Palmar Newb
20. Sevryn Newb
21. ghrur Vet
22. Varysthespider Newb
23. node Vet
24, coagulation Vet
25. kavdragon Vet
26. Lucidity Newb
27. ketomai Newb
28. creamybutter Newb
29. redff Vet
30. youngminii Vet
31. liquid`nazgul Newb
32. Shraft Newb
33. cjrninja Newb
34. visceraeyes Newb
35. theawesomeall Newb
36. eternalmisfit Newb
37. zona Vet
38. gtrsrs Newb
39. ribboo Newb
40. sinani206 Newb

On July 18 2011 12:46 Coagulation wrote:
If scum need any tips on how to play feel free to PM any questions.

On July 18 2011 14:22 Coagulation wrote:
Silence Newb

On July 18 2011 14:34 Coagulation wrote:
isnt gtrsrs the guy that made Kenpachi RAGEQUIT?
On July 18 2011 15:11 Coagulation wrote:
Hi kenpachi

On July 19 2011 03:11 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 16:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
This list was pointless and all it served to do was belittle and intimidate the newer players from posting.
To that end, what is your agenda? The only objective this post served was to discourage newer players from posting which helps mafia force sheeping, which in a game this size is a considerable problem. To this end, I am voting for you.

##Vote Coagulation


My agenda - keep town derp meter at optimal low levels
My objective - provide town with requested information before scummy fuckers get a chance to manipulate the information.




On July 19 2011 16:02 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 15:20 supersoft wrote:
I am not motivated anymore to defend myself against this accusations. I share with you my most recent conversation with Kavdragon:

+ Show Spoiler +
M.O.:
23:48:16
hi
M.O.:
23:48:25
super here :-)
Rigel Ifland:
23:48:31
He.
Rigel Ifland:
23:48:36
*hey
Rigel Ifland:
23:48:41
Ok, so you didn't talk to anyone else.
Rigel Ifland:
23:48:43
LOL.
M.O.:
23:48:48
what do you want to know :-)
Rigel Ifland:
23:48:55
So we both know that your VT claim wasn't BS.
M.O.:
23:48:57
i talked to wait
M.O.:
23:49:14
before i "claimed" I didn't talk to anyone
M.O.:
23:49:33
yes I know -,-
M.O.:
23:49:46
after that, mig PMed me
M.O.:
23:49:53
i posted the dialogue in the thread
M.O.:
23:50:03
after that curu PMed me
M.O.:
23:50:11
i also posted this in the thread
Rigel Ifland:
23:50:21
right.
M.O.:
23:50:29
and recently, redFF PMed me
M.O.:
23:50:49
i didn't revealed that yet. I will if you actually lynch me.
M.O.:
23:51:04
Because I think you need all the information
Rigel Ifland:
23:51:23
I'm more inclined to believe that you are actually a townie, but my main point was just disproven by non other than myself.
M.O.:
23:51:25
*town needs the information
Rigel Ifland:
23:51:30
Damn and Damn again.
M.O.:
23:51:36
mh?
Rigel Ifland:
23:51:54
I just used fail logic to deduce that you are a townie.
Rigel Ifland:
23:52:04
And then discovered my fail.
M.O.:
23:52:15
okay... that's bad for me i guess :D
Rigel Ifland:
23:52:27
let's just say that it involved me assuming people didn't read the OP.
Rigel Ifland:
23:52:38
Which is a bad idea. Still, I think you are a townie.
M.O.:
23:52:55
you are a townie, too?
Rigel Ifland:
23:53:04
Can't say, but that's what I assume everyone is.
M.O.:
23:53:12
you didn't read the OP before reading my post didn't you
Rigel Ifland:
23:53:25
<_<
Rigel Ifland:
23:53:26
>_>
M.O.:
23:53:27
:D
Rigel Ifland:
23:53:35
Yeah, I feel like an idiot.
Rigel Ifland:
23:53:46
I was all like...WTF! People are voting for him!
M.O.:
23:54:00
haha :D
Rigel Ifland:
23:54:04
I had a PLAN, man. It was beautiful.
Rigel Ifland:
23:54:16
And....completely useless now.
M.O.:
23:54:23
hmm
Rigel Ifland:
23:54:33
But still, I don't think that mafia would have done what you did, so I'm still leaning townie.
M.O.:
23:55:11
yes I know...
M.O.:
23:55:17
but curu tunnels me so hard
M.O.:
23:55:24
and repeats his accuses over and over
M.O.:
23:55:42
so the newbs think he got something
Rigel Ifland:
23:55:44
Hmm.
M.O.:
23:55:49
I actually think he's town, too
Rigel Ifland:
23:56:11
He said that you are an innocent idiot.
Rigel Ifland:
23:56:15
At one point.
M.O.:
23:56:15
but he is too fast and too spammy
Rigel Ifland:
23:56:35
I'm not caught up, so I'm not sure what's happening just yet, but w/e.
M.O.:
23:56:43
yep
M.O.:
23:57:25
I have another thing I want to share with you
M.O.:
23:57:37
redFF wrote me something...
M.O.:
23:57:48
i paste it to you
Rigel Ifland:
23:57:55
kk
M.O.:
23:58:19


Original Message From redFF:
say it in the thread. i think ur town though, i'll try and save u. Lucidity is scum imo, just a gut read.
Show nested quote +
Original Message From supersoft:
"
On July 18 2011 22:34 ketomai wrote:
Right now I'm feeling supersoft. He bandwagoned a pretty bad vote and didn't give much analysis. From a previous game, he played similarly as mafia. He just pretty much finds the easiest vote that doesn't affect mafia and then tries to stay out of the way and lurk/posts generic agreements and contentless posts. He only starts posting significantly when he defends himself and even then sticks to generic statements.


I thought about this while I was away. I never played with you before and I never read anything of you before. Did anyone in your mafia-quicktopic post that about me?"

thats my reason for voting him. And I think it's a pretty solid reason. Better than the bandwagon on me btw. ;-)

M.O.:
23:58:50
after that
M.O.:
23:58:55
On July 19 2011 03:57 prplhz wrote:
FoS on Lucidity

Only two posts with content so far.

+ Show Spoiler +


A post full of nothing. Talking about how to play the game in very general terms "some chaos is good if done right", "lurkers might be town". Neglects that Mr. Wiggles kinda wrote that post in the beginning when there was absolutely nothing else to talk about, and that CreamyButter was responding to a question directed at him, and wasn't even posting "town guide". No original content, and also somewhat self contradictory in that he complains about town guides yet his post contains a lot about what is/might be/may just happen to prove useful to town in some scenarios, in very vague terms.

+ Show Spoiler +


Complaining about one-liner posters that's already been complained about. Huge rant about how it doesn't matter if people spam the thread up with VT claims while he knows that VT claims are useless. If they're useless then why do you think it's okay for people to spam the thread with them? Semi-jumps on the biggest bandwagon in this game but does not provide any original content or reasons at all.

Overall he's also playing noob cards.

So, Lucidity, who, besides supersoft, would you throw your vote at if you had to vote right now?
M.O.:
23:59:07
this happened

2011-07-19
M.O.:
00:00:35
I think redFF might be scum, he knows I am innocent and he thinks his innocence will be proven if i flip green.
Lucidity is mafias next target. prplhz is mafia, too.
Rigel Ifland:
00:00:37
np
M.O.:
00:00:42
yes ^_^
M.O.:
00:00:46
sorry
Rigel Ifland:
00:02:42
So,
Rigel Ifland:
00:03:21
I wouldn't say that RedFF is scum yet.
Rigel Ifland:
00:03:44
The important thing to look at is whether or not he SHOULD be defending you.
Rigel Ifland:
00:03:59
If someone builds a terrible case against player A, and player B defends him,
M.O.:
00:04:08
yes you're right
M.O.:
00:04:11
hmm
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:12
B could be town or mafia
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:22
BUT. if it's a really strong argument,
M.O.:
00:04:33
it's an idea at least
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:35
Then there's no reason for it.
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:36
Yes.
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:38
It is.
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:43
Keep it in your collection of suspicions.
Rigel Ifland:
00:04:59
If things keep addig up to scum, then accuse him.
M.O.:
00:05:08
he wrote something:
Rigel Ifland:
00:05:09
But be careful to avoid rose colored glasses.
M.O.:
00:05:26
"yeah lol he's scum"
M.O.:
00:05:56
ahm... "rose colored glasses"? :D I am german I don't understand these things :D
M.O.:
00:06:35
the language is my mainproblem :D I am a lawstudent, I know how to defend me, but in english :D lol! :D
Rigel Ifland:
00:06:54
ha,
Rigel Ifland:
00:07:06
I don't even know it it's an english phrase.
Rigel Ifland:
00:07:12
It's something someone said in a previous game.
Rigel Ifland:
00:07:34
Essentially "rose colored glasses" turn everything red (or "rose" colored)
M.O.:
00:07:51
aaah okay :D
Rigel Ifland:
00:07:53
meaning that you look at RedFF as if he's scum, and so you only see the scummy parts, and not the parts that are townie.
Rigel Ifland:
00:08:14
Becareful to keep an open mind. that's an easier way of saying it.
M.O.:
00:10:51
yes
M.O.:
00:10:59
you are right. hmm
M.O.:
00:11:49
I probably PM jackal... He was the only one who noticed my finding of this ketomai thing
Rigel Ifland:
00:13:00
Heh, be careful iwth Jackal.
M.O.:
00:13:09
do you think we should publish this convesation?
M.O.:
00:13:13
yes I know him ^_^
Rigel Ifland:
00:13:19
He's known for tunneling people. Not that he's not a good person to talk to , but just be ware of that fact.
Rigel Ifland:
00:13:39
As far as publishing this convo, it's up to you.
M.O.:
00:13:50
okay thank you.
Rigel Ifland:
00:14:20
I wouldn't because it might look like two scum having a conversation to prove your innocence, but at the same time I couldbe scum trying to tell you not to giveme away.
Rigel Ifland:
00:14:29
So I'll leave the decision up to you.
M.O.:
00:15:32
yea I think it won't be bad for you.
Rigel Ifland:
00:16:12
Heh, I'm not worried about me.
M.O.:
00:16:15
:D
Rigel Ifland:
00:16:15
I'm worried about you.
M.O.:
00:16:20
me too
M.O.:
00:16:22
haha
M.O.:
00:21:36
i don't understand what do they want from me
M.O.:
00:21:39
:D
M.O.:
00:21:49
i can't defend myself more than i already did.
M.O.:
00:21:55
i made a joke
Rigel Ifland:
00:21:59
So, in the event that you are lynched, (and to be honest, I doubt you will because wagons don't usually last more than 36 hours.)
M.O.:
00:22:01
that's it
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:03
Here are a few pointers.
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:19
Don't lie.
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:28
Lemme back up.
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:31
Don't claim.
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:37
Don't lie.
Rigel Ifland:
00:22:52
If you claim, stick with it, don't try to back peddle and say that you lied.
M.O.:
00:23:38
yo
Rigel Ifland:
00:23:46
If you want to prove your innocence, I would stop replying to stuff he's saying for a while.
M.O.:
00:23:56
yes i already stoped
Rigel Ifland:
00:24:20
Start voiceing your opinions on OTHER topics.
M.O.:
00:25:07
i will push the ketomai case. I think it's reasonable...
M.O.:
00:26:42
ah
M.O.:
00:26:51
kenpachi suspects prplhz
M.O.:
00:26:56
redFFs buddy
Rigel Ifland:
00:27:49
Buddy/
Rigel Ifland:
00:27:51
*?
M.O.:
00:28:17
i wrote you... wait a sec
M.O.:
00:28:38
On July 19 2011 03:57 prplhz wrote:
FoS on Lucidity

Only two posts with content so far.

+ Show Spoiler +


A post full of nothing. Talking about how to play the game in very general terms "some chaos is good if done right", "lurkers might be town". Neglects that Mr. Wiggles kinda wrote that post in the beginning when there was absolutely nothing else to talk about, and that CreamyButter was responding to a question directed at him, and wasn't even posting "town guide". No original content, and also somewhat self contradictory in that he complains about town guides yet his post contains a lot about what is/might be/may just happen to prove useful to town in some scenarios, in very vague terms.

+ Show Spoiler +


Complaining about one-liner posters that's already been complained about. Huge rant about how it doesn't matter if people spam the thread up with VT claims while he knows that VT claims are useless. If they're useless then why do you think it's okay for people to spam the thread with them? Semi-jumps on the biggest bandwagon in this game but does not provide any original content or reasons at all.

Overall he's also playing noob cards.

So, Lucidity, who, besides supersoft, would you throw your vote at if you had to vote right now?
M.O.:
00:29:04
he posted this one moment after redFF tried to convince me to tunnel Lucidity
M.O.:
00:39:38
hmm
M.O.:
00:39:44
i have to sleep now
M.O.:
00:39:57
having much work tomorrow :-P
Rigel Ifland:
00:40:03
gl!
M.O.:
00:40:11
i already invested far too many time in this mafia :D
M.O.:
00:40:29
but i have to keep my english-knowledge up :-D
Rigel Ifland:
00:40:32
Yeah, it'll do that.
M.O.:
00:40:45
thanks
M.O.:
00:40:51
for the conversation
M.O.:
00:40:56
see you
Rigel Ifland:
00:41:06
np. Hopefully I can help you in the future.
M.O.:
00:41:25
yes. I will survive.
M.O.:
00:41:28
^_^


i know it's hard to read, but my skype won't give it to me in a better format.
I think you:

On July 19 2011 07:25 Kenpachi wrote:
I think prplhz is mafia.
##vote prplhz


might be interested in reading this, because I think you might be right.

Kenpachi is notorious for never being right.
just dont lynch him till end game

On July 20 2011 04:18 Coagulation wrote:
derp
+ Show Spoiler +
YOU FIND SCUM LYNCH HIM
On July 20 2011 10:05 Coagulation wrote:
LOL NICE



- He starts out by posting the unnecessarily detailed list followed by three useless one-liners (presumably wanting to fill the post quota early so that he can proceed to lurk the whole day)

- RoL calls him out on it, he disappears only to return a few hours to hop on the easiest bandwagon vote with no reasoning at all behind it.

I encourage people to keep a really close eye on this guy, I think he is very likely mafia. This isn't much of an analysis, I just posted it because I wanted to bring attention to him to make sure that people don't just let him fly under the radar.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Let's kill them guards!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 02:24 GMT
#1062
On July 20 2011 11:09 ketomai wrote:
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On July 20 2011 10:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do you genuinely believe a mafia who has two suspicious votes in front of him at 12-12 one hour before the deadline is going to kill his mafia buddy instead of making it 13-12 on the other just because a few people before him voted a certain person?

The logical reasoning would be he was the deciding vote in killing mafia. Not some imaginary flow thing that had no effect as can be seen from the eventual scoring which was 12-12.


Everything you did before the time was up was indicative of mafia.

1) First you try to redirect votes to Pyo when no one has gone for him in a long time while redFF was in danger of being the top vote.

2) After that you come up with random evidence which is shaky at best to support Kav's lynch instead of redFF, even if there was essentially no time left.

You were just trying to siphon votes here and there from redFF because many did not have a strong belief for their vote and were "meh" about it. Redirecting votes from an obvious mafia like redFF right before the deadline when the votes are close can only describe mafia behavior. What kind of benefit would it be to spread the vote last second and make it a shitfest? None.

And yes, a mafia who saves the one other than his teamate when the teammate is under heavy fire is very very suspicious. Had you broken a score to support VE it would be very obvious who the mafia is, especially since all of the bandwagoners for VE went afk. The best you could do without endangering yourself directly was to essentially abstain or draw votes to a completely random person, which you tried.

However, that too was a stupid move.

With over an hour to go I genuinely asked whether that is enough time for a vote on Kav. Note: I did not ask people to vote for him; I asked if it had any use to do so, because I have no experience with the timing of this and activity of the voting. I did not try to get people to vote for Kav if you read back and check my wording. Very clearly I'm asking if it has any use to switch and when better players than myself said no I didn't.

Still, with an hour to go and a very close score, 12-12 by what I thought and 13-11 in reality I do think that mafia would have tried to save their friend. I feel like we are going in circles on this, your reasoning is flawed, and a repeat of the same questions. Not going to respond to the same question again.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
July 20 2011 02:28 GMT
#1063
On July 20 2011 07:17 Curu wrote:
BC, we're not allowed to forge conversations and PMs right? Is that a modkill offense?


it is only a modkill offense if the forged conversation is one including myself or sandroba. Anything else is fair game
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 02:31 GMT
#1064
Seriously Vigs out there shoot CB or VE or both of them. One of them altered a PM and is guaranteed to be lying. There is close to a 0% chance that they can both be town.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 20 2011 02:34 GMT
#1065
On July 20 2011 11:31 Mig wrote:
Seriously Vigs out there shoot CB or VE or both of them. One of them altered a PM and is guaranteed to be lying. There is close to a 0% chance that they can both be town.


Mhmmm, one of them is confirmed traitor. There's no reason to fake a PM about being the traitor, unless you are one.

Now to see what Kav says.
you gotta dance
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 20 2011 02:34 GMT
#1066
I'm pretty sure both of us being II is the only situation that is not actually possible.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 02:36 GMT
#1067
On July 20 2011 11:34 CreamyButter wrote:
I'm pretty sure both of us being II is the only situation that is not actually possible.


Why you could easily be altering the PM to try and save yourself if VE flips II.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 20 2011 02:36 GMT
#1068
On July 20 2011 11:34 CreamyButter wrote:
I'm pretty sure both of us being II is the only situation that is not actually possible.


Why's that? If you're both II, you could have made the plan in PMs that you would start fighting so that if one of you dies and flips II, the other one might be accepted as town. You trying to point that out actually makes it seem more likely you're both II.
you gotta dance
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 20 2011 02:41 GMT
#1069
On July 20 2011 11:07 CreamyButter wrote:
...Good morning. =.=
I hate to make a kill me if you want to assholes claim, but I am.
VisceraEyes, are you serious? You pick the one person in the thread who's been accused of being traitor so far, who is also on eastern time.
Show nested quote +
Further, if he was trying to help scum team with that, he would have chosen another player to incriminate, as CB was never going to be shot by mafia because people already thought he was highly suspicious and he is a new player.
I argue that it's too perfect, for whatever that's worth.

The only reason I was accused of being traitorish was because I expressed doubts about my ability, and then proceeded to suck accordingly, if I recall correctly.
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His "plan" for Mafia to manipulate DTs into finding the Insane Inmates was ridiculously terrible and only serves to strengthen the thought that he is an Insane Inmate now.

He posted a whole bunch at the start of the game then disappeared for the rest of the game.

Your request for me to make plans for mafia was utter bullshit. The only things it could possibly do were either fail or help the mafia. Are you shitting me? Let's try this: why don't you post some insane inmate strategy to prove yourself. Let's see how long you last? Maybe it would be a good idea for insane inmate to start asking noobs bullshit questions and see what their response is. Try it curu, really try. Are you romanian? Also, I claim inactivity due to sleep and then going to class. I checked as soon as I got home.

And VE.... =.=
I don't want to get angry irl but seriously

From: VisceraEyes [ 501 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: insane inmates
Date: 7/19/11 22:17
Alright

Original Message From CreamyButter:
Lmao how would an insane inmate claim anyway
Hi, im an insane inmate. Not sure how to prove it. Is there any way for you to figure out who mafia is and then tell them my name? Not sure how you would accomplish this, just PM scummy people? You will know it in your heart that I'm telling the truth. Hopefully I've PMed you before any fake claims to you.
lol
Idk, I mean they know you're red though so that should help.
I'll be asleep for the next several hours, should wake up around 9:30 KST. Kthx

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Original Message From VisceraEyes:
maybe I could get an insane inmate to claim

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This feels more like a fake-claim aimed to confirm my claim to Wiggles than an actual scum-claim.
yea ok
Either kill me, or use a DT check on me. I remember someone was saying to check noobs right? Or just kill me. This is utter bullshit.
I have to leave for class very soon. Talk fast.


Well well well. Isn't this interesting? Either VE went to all the trouble of editing a PM for his gambit or CB is lying. I'm of the opinion vig should shoot VE and we go on from there.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 02:43 GMT
#1070
What do you guys think about assigning an obvious mafia target to some of the vigs? It will allow us to see which ones are in the game/active. Of course there's still a night to discuss which ones. For example something like (again, just an example of some suspicious mafia):

Zsasz: CB or Kav

Calendar Man: Pyo

Harley Quinn: supersoft

Firefly: Nazgul
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 20 2011 02:44 GMT
#1071
Edit: Actually shooting both is a good idea too, since at least one, possibly both, are anti town. So at least one of these cats should be offed tonight.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 02:46 GMT
#1072
On July 20 2011 11:41 snotboogie wrote:
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On July 20 2011 11:07 CreamyButter wrote:
...Good morning. =.=
I hate to make a kill me if you want to assholes claim, but I am.
VisceraEyes, are you serious? You pick the one person in the thread who's been accused of being traitor so far, who is also on eastern time.
Further, if he was trying to help scum team with that, he would have chosen another player to incriminate, as CB was never going to be shot by mafia because people already thought he was highly suspicious and he is a new player.
I argue that it's too perfect, for whatever that's worth.

The only reason I was accused of being traitorish was because I expressed doubts about my ability, and then proceeded to suck accordingly, if I recall correctly.
His "plan" for Mafia to manipulate DTs into finding the Insane Inmates was ridiculously terrible and only serves to strengthen the thought that he is an Insane Inmate now.

He posted a whole bunch at the start of the game then disappeared for the rest of the game.

Your request for me to make plans for mafia was utter bullshit. The only things it could possibly do were either fail or help the mafia. Are you shitting me? Let's try this: why don't you post some insane inmate strategy to prove yourself. Let's see how long you last? Maybe it would be a good idea for insane inmate to start asking noobs bullshit questions and see what their response is. Try it curu, really try. Are you romanian? Also, I claim inactivity due to sleep and then going to class. I checked as soon as I got home.

And VE.... =.=
I don't want to get angry irl but seriously

From: VisceraEyes [ 501 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: insane inmates
Date: 7/19/11 22:17
Alright

Original Message From CreamyButter:
Lmao how would an insane inmate claim anyway
Hi, im an insane inmate. Not sure how to prove it. Is there any way for you to figure out who mafia is and then tell them my name? Not sure how you would accomplish this, just PM scummy people? You will know it in your heart that I'm telling the truth. Hopefully I've PMed you before any fake claims to you.
lol
Idk, I mean they know you're red though so that should help.
I'll be asleep for the next several hours, should wake up around 9:30 KST. Kthx

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This feels more like a fake-claim aimed to confirm my claim to Wiggles than an actual scum-claim.
yea ok
Either kill me, or use a DT check on me. I remember someone was saying to check noobs right? Or just kill me. This is utter bullshit.
I have to leave for class very soon. Talk fast.


Well well well. Isn't this interesting? Either VE went to all the trouble of editing a PM for his gambit or CB is lying. I'm of the opinion vig should shoot VE and we go on from there.


Lol there is a mistake in this PM. Why is the post count 501 (his current post count) when these pms were supposedly sent awhile ago? It would have to contain his post count from back then, and VE has certainly posted a lot since then.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#1073
Meant to quote the pm only, not snotboogie, but this makes it another vig target pretty pretty obvious.
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#1074
Why's that? If you're both II, you could have made the plan in PMs that you would start fighting so that if one of you dies and flips II, the other one might be accepted as town. You trying to point that out actually makes it seem more likely you're both II.


If we were both II then why did he incriminate me in the first place =.=
If we were plotting then why did I not just make a horrible obvious mistake in my return post that would exonerate him
He's II, frames me: makes perfect sense
I'm II, i get called out, frame him: makes perfect sense
We're both II: He is on the chopping block. He decides to reveal another II, so that best case scenario, only one of the two have to die. Which is clearly not what was already going to happen right?

I highly suggest not shooting me. This is in no way a role claim, but i highly, highly suggest it. VE is a very obvious shot and he should definitely die. Objectively speaking, one of either me or VE has to die, and I highly suggest that you pick him. You could shoot the both of us to be sure, but vigs only get 1 shot, correct? It would not be the end of the world if I were shot, but again I suggest not doing it.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 20 2011 02:53 GMT
#1075
I don't get it. What does shooting a traitor do for us? We don't need to kill them to win. They have no information. Their actions won't have the knowledge of who's who behind it. What information do we get if we vigi them?

Do they count as a mafia vote? Like, if we had 3 traitors, 5 mafia, and 8 town, do we lose? If that's the case, then yeah, kill them.

Also, thinking about it, I think VE is more likely II.
Why would town not PM someone before laying a trap like that? Makes no sense.
Why would II not PM someone before laying a trap like that? Let's see.

Suppose VE is II.
If Wiggles were town:
-VE tells someone else. He gets away scotch free. Wiggles gets town cred.
-VE doesn't tell anyone else. Everyone clamors over the claim. We get a ton of confusion (just re-read the thread after that, it was a clusterfuck), and the end result is we're unsure.

If Wiggles were mafia:
-VE tells someone else. VE and Wiggles get in contact. VE either has to lie to that someone, or that doesn't respond and that someone finds out he and Wiggles are scum.
-VE doesn't tell anyone else. He and Wiggles are in contact. Wiggles can out him. Everyone clamors over the claim. We get a ton of confusion. Wiggles gets town cred.

Seems much more beneficial for II not to tell anyone else about their gambit.

Oh, CB/VE just ruined the no lying to town thing. Policy shots imo. gogo Vigi. I recommend Zsasz or Calendar Man to hit the former and Harley Quinn, Firefly, to hit the latter. :D I can't wait to see what the day post brings.
darkness overpowering
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 20 2011 02:58 GMT
#1076
Lol there is a mistake in this PM. Why is the post count 501 (his current post count) when these pms were supposedly sent awhile ago? It would have to contain his post count from back then, and VE has certainly posted a lot since then.

>.> I'll just wait like 10 seconds while you check that.

Oh, CB/VE just ruined the no lying to town thing.
I have never lied. If shooting me will help, OK, but I never lied.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 03:04 GMT
#1077
Dang wtf you are right. I swear that's how the PM number was displayed in the past -.-. Anyways, i'm pretty sure both of you are gone tonight. But my bad about the PM.
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 20 2011 03:24 GMT
#1078
Going to class now, will be back later XD

My favorite scenario:
VE gets shot, this somehow exonerates me, DT checks someone else, vigs do not shoot me

My next favorites, not optimal for the team:
VE gets shot, DT checks me, vigs do not shoot me
VE gets shot, vigs shoot me, dt does not check me
VE gets shot, vigs shoot me, dt checks me

Bad:
DT checks me, vigs shoot me, VE does not get shot

Looks like us both getting shot will happen, as long as its not the bad scenario I won't argue though.
ok bye guys
weeee
I really need to start waking up earlier. I get to watch proleague at convenient times but D:
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
July 20 2011 03:37 GMT
#1079
darmousseh is replacing Node
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 20 2011 03:43 GMT
#1080
wussup darm
welcome to the shit.
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