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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#1041
On July 20 2011 10:30 ketomai wrote:
Because he was trying to get close to VE, so it would make sense to have that there as a crutch. I actually find you slightly suspicious Nazgul. You voted for someone near the end that would have no good town effect on the game, but possibly a plan to barely save FF. When it became clear the redFF would be lynched anyways, you changed your vote right away to redFF.

Excuse me? Votes were 12-12 I could have voted VE and saved Red who turned out to be scum. It is the opposite of suspicious, thanks.

p.s. I thought the game would close an hour later than it did.

p.p.s. Did you read my earlier post about Kav in which he said not to vote VE before he tried to get close to him?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 20 2011 01:40 GMT
#1042
You people sure do love to post your conversations, or maybe thats just because there are so many.

I'm completely content with Mr. Eyes kicking the bucket so I don't plan on disturbing he pot any further. When exactly does day end?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#1043
On July 20 2011 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
You people sure do love to post your conversations, or maybe thats just because there are so many.

I'm completely content with Mr. Eyes kicking the bucket so I don't plan on disturbing he pot any further. When exactly does day end?

it ended. read 2 pages back
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#1044
Oh thats when it ended lol, figures I kept my browser open and didnt refresh it.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 01:46 GMT
#1045
On July 20 2011 10:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 10:30 ketomai wrote:
Because he was trying to get close to VE, so it would make sense to have that there as a crutch. I actually find you slightly suspicious Nazgul. You voted for someone near the end that would have no good town effect on the game, but possibly a plan to barely save FF. When it became clear the redFF would be lynched anyways, you changed your vote right away to redFF.

Excuse me? Votes were 12-12 I could have voted VE and saved Red who turned out to be scum. It is the opposite of suspicious, thanks.

p.s. I thought the game would close an hour later than it did.

p.p.s. Did you read my earlier post about Kav in which he said not to vote VE before he tried to get close to him?


It's suspicious, but if he had voted against him, would VE had trusted him? That's not really that solid but neither is anything with the PM business.

You could have voted VE but the flow was going towards redFF already. If you had switched then you would have looked counterproductive to the effort. Most people who were posting were going to redFF whereas mainly lurkers were sticking with VE. Had you outright chosen redFF you probably might have killed your potential mafia member, so you chose the neutral route and took someone random. However, that vote had no meaning at that point except a mafia meaning. That is why I'm questioning you at the moment. Even you should agree that your vote choice was very strange. Why decide to essentially abstain, then switch when it was already over?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#1046
Which flow dude, voting closed at 12-12. Ever considered being wrong?
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 01:53 GMT
#1047
On July 20 2011 10:51 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Which flow dude, voting closed at 12-12. Ever considered being wrong?


Look at all the last votes that mattered. They were switching to redFF yet you chose to abstain at a critical time. Instead of being defensive, is as typical of newbie mafia, instead you should come up with some reasoning for your actions instead of denying facts.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 01:59 GMT
#1048
Do you genuinely believe a mafia who has two suspicious votes in front of him at 12-12 one hour before the deadline is going to kill his mafia buddy instead of making it 13-12 on the other just because a few people before him voted a certain person?

The logical reasoning would be he was the deciding vote in killing mafia. Not some imaginary flow thing that had no effect as can be seen from the eventual scoring which was 12-12.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2011 02:00 GMT
#1049
+ I think if two players are even in the votecounts, the player who reached the number first is the one who gets lynched.

I think I am correct about this one... This question came up several times in my former mafiagames...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2011 02:02 GMT
#1050
votes were not 12-12. They were 13-11 because i switched in the last possible moment.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2011 02:05 GMT
#1051
ah okay sorry Nazgul you are wrong: i sum it up:

votes were 12-12. VE would have been the one who would have been lynched.
I switched, turning the votes to 11-13 in redFFs favour.

Your vote on VE or redFF wouldn't have changed anything.

This is fact.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2011 02:06 GMT
#1052
Naz, you should put a Posts count with an infinity symbol next to it on your banner....not that the Nazgul icon isn't cool enough.

I agree with your assessment that Kav is most likely scum based on the timing...but at the point in the game you were trying to get people to switch (1 hr dude, even by your reckoning), you have to admit the timing is...less than ideal. 40 players, 12 people on each wagon...who were you trying to convince that late in the game and NOT look scummy? I'm sure you have lots to do, but srsly, 1 hr? It took me SEVEN hours to get a redFF or RoL train off the platform...and that's with the town's ear because of my claim.

Do you disagree with allowing Vigs to use their discretion in handling the II claims?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 20 2011 02:07 GMT
#1053
...Good morning. =.=
I hate to make a kill me if you want to assholes claim, but I am.
VisceraEyes, are you serious? You pick the one person in the thread who's been accused of being traitor so far, who is also on eastern time.
Further, if he was trying to help scum team with that, he would have chosen another player to incriminate, as CB was never going to be shot by mafia because people already thought he was highly suspicious and he is a new player.
I argue that it's too perfect, for whatever that's worth.

The only reason I was accused of being traitorish was because I expressed doubts about my ability, and then proceeded to suck accordingly, if I recall correctly.
His "plan" for Mafia to manipulate DTs into finding the Insane Inmates was ridiculously terrible and only serves to strengthen the thought that he is an Insane Inmate now.

He posted a whole bunch at the start of the game then disappeared for the rest of the game.

Your request for me to make plans for mafia was utter bullshit. The only things it could possibly do were either fail or help the mafia. Are you shitting me? Let's try this: why don't you post some insane inmate strategy to prove yourself. Let's see how long you last? Maybe it would be a good idea for insane inmate to start asking noobs bullshit questions and see what their response is. Try it curu, really try. Are you romanian? Also, I claim inactivity due to sleep and then going to class. I checked as soon as I got home.

And VE.... =.=
I don't want to get angry irl but seriously

From: VisceraEyes [ 501 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: insane inmates
Date: 7/19/11 22:17
Alright

Original Message From CreamyButter:
Lmao how would an insane inmate claim anyway
Hi, im an insane inmate. Not sure how to prove it. Is there any way for you to figure out who mafia is and then tell them my name? Not sure how you would accomplish this, just PM scummy people? You will know it in your heart that I'm telling the truth. Hopefully I've PMed you before any fake claims to you.
lol
Idk, I mean they know you're red though so that should help.
I'll be asleep for the next several hours, should wake up around 9:30 KST. Kthx

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From VisceraEyes:
maybe I could get an insane inmate to claim

Show nested quote +



This feels more like a fake-claim aimed to confirm my claim to Wiggles than an actual scum-claim.
yea ok
Either kill me, or use a DT check on me. I remember someone was saying to check noobs right? Or just kill me. This is utter bullshit.
I have to leave for class very soon. Talk fast.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 20 2011 02:08 GMT
#1054
On July 20 2011 10:33 notasmurf wrote:
If anyone was in a PM circle (Ie quicktopic) with RedFF please contact me

That is certainly a unique way to catch the entire scum team. I don't think it will work though. Kudos for effort though.
Life can only kill you once.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#1055
On July 20 2011 10:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do you genuinely believe a mafia who has two suspicious votes in front of him at 12-12 one hour before the deadline is going to kill his mafia buddy instead of making it 13-12 on the other just because a few people before him voted a certain person?

The logical reasoning would be he was the deciding vote in killing mafia. Not some imaginary flow thing that had no effect as can be seen from the eventual scoring which was 12-12.


Everything you did before the time was up was indicative of mafia.

1) First you try to redirect votes to Pyo when no one has gone for him in a long time while redFF was in danger of being the top vote.

2) After that you come up with random evidence which is shaky at best to support Kav's lynch instead of redFF, even if there was essentially no time left.

You were just trying to siphon votes here and there from redFF because many did not have a strong belief for their vote and were "meh" about it. Redirecting votes from an obvious mafia like redFF right before the deadline when the votes are close can only describe mafia behavior. What kind of benefit would it be to spread the vote last second and make it a shitfest? None.

And yes, a mafia who saves the one other than his teamate when the teammate is under heavy fire is very very suspicious. Had you broken a score to support VE it would be very obvious who the mafia is, especially since all of the bandwagoners for VE went afk. The best you could do without endangering yourself directly was to essentially abstain or draw votes to a completely random person, which you tried.

However, that too was a stupid move.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 02:14:43
July 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#1056


PM night actions to both BC And Me.


Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#1057
On July 20 2011 11:05 supersoft wrote:
ah okay sorry Nazgul you are wrong: i sum it up:

votes were 12-12. VE would have been the one who would have been lynched.
I switched, turning the votes to 11-13 in redFFs favour.

Your vote on VE or redFF wouldn't have changed anything.

This is fact.

my bad I counted 12-12 and didn't see you switch in the thread here
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 02:15 GMT
#1058
Wonderful CB is claiming that VE altered the pm to frame him. So one of them is certainly lying and at worst one of them is pretty much guaranteed anti town and there is still a good chance they are both anti town.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 20 2011 02:16 GMT
#1059
Nazgul, I don't think you actually changed your vote off SS. I don't see a post of yours in the voting thread.
darkness overpowering
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 02:18 GMT
#1060
Personally I think they are both IIs still. And CB altered the real pm in the hopes that if VE flips II people will let him slide.
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