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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 19 2011 14:13 GMT
#741
you forgot YM
dr Helvetica <3
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 19 2011 14:14 GMT
#742
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 19 2011 23:10 Curu wrote:
supersoft stop blaming your case on me. All I did was point out all the wrong things you did. You did those things yourself, and your defense was even worse. I wasn't even the first to say you looked scummy, just the first to vote and the most vocal about it afterwards. Every single one of your defenses is just "Oh Curu is loud so everyone is voting for me now." No, realize that you played badly if you are Town and that that is why everyone is voting for you.

If you can answer these questions satisfactorily I will reconsider you:

Why did you disappear for a few hours when I called out your PM lie and asked you who you had been PMing with? You later claim that 6-7 PMs is active for you and that that was your meaning. Why not state it as soon as I asked you then?

Why did you say you were going to go do analysis and then posted about 2 minutes later with some random fluff about me and Mig being suspicious? You didn't go to do analysis, you just read the previous page to find something that you could use against me.

Are you going to shape up your accusations?

So far you have accused Coagulation cause you wanted to bandwagon, accused me and Mig for both thinking PMs are useful (after we attacked you), accused ketomai for some random reason about having a quicktopic (after he attacked you), accused snotboogie for saying Town in third person (after he attacked you), and jumped on the easy bandwagon against redFF. You look like the epitome of someone who is taking only a minimal interest in the thread and analyzing people, instead only jumping on easy bandwagons and trying to find reasons to use against people who have been attacking you.
^
This is my main problem with you right now. Reading the thread more carefully, you have been doing this a teeny tiny bit actually. Go do more of it please. Go do a lot of it and I will give you a hug and be your BFF.

You look like you're actually trying now, which is great. Before you were just digging yourself in deeper and screaming to be lynched while convincing yourself that the only reason you were getting voted for is me.

-------------------

redFF I've worn the case down against him too. I don't really have anything else to say, except to note that he has gone back to being useless after getting called out for defending supersoft (two posts: "I'll do clue analysis" and "CUZ UR A JOKE") and ignoring Palmar's prodding of him. Actually this dude looks even scummier than supersoft so I'd be up for him as a lynch too right now.

-------------------

I'm wary of people that appear to be smart but don't contribute anything other than mechanics discussion when unprompted. I don't know what they've been doing in PM land, but Wiggles and notasmurf jump out to me as these. bumatlarge too, he hasn't done anything except say he'll PM people (has he?).

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Pyo, wtf is this shit? Abstain vote, day 1 lynches are useless, never hit scum with day 1 lynch...what a load of crap. Merc Mini, RTM, and WaW2 being "different" doesn't mean hitting scum on day 1 is any less successful in this game. wtf does their setup have to do with making scumhunting different?

-------------------

Nisani has done nothing but squawk around agreeing with everyone, then suggested I get lynched if supersoft flips green while stating that he also finds supersoft scummy. lolwut.

-------------------

VarystheSpider has posted a bunch of nothing. "I agree" posts.

Shraft did nothing but follow me around the supersoft wagon and now he's made 1 more contentless post saying he's following around the redFF wagon.

CjrNinja did not post anything, I called him out, he posted almost right after I did so. Active lurking or coincidence? ribboo as well, he has since disappeared completely.

-------------------

I have been in light PM contact with RoL. Don't know about anyone else.



READ THE THREAD!!!

I suspected redFF WAY before anyone else did! I didn't jump on any bandwagon.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 19 2011 14:16 GMT
#743
On July 19 2011 22:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 22:47 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:26 Mig wrote:
Pyo wtf you realize all you have done this game is say you aren't suspicious of anyone like 50 times. Surely there has to be someone you are suspicious of? There are 25 pages of posts. Are you really saying you haven't seen anything at all that worries you?


I don't understand why everyone keeps pressuring me to start accusing people. Sure there are suspicious people. About half the people in the game haven't really posted much of anything. We've got a bunch of people throwing out 4+ simultaneous accusations. You've been happy-go-lucky PM spamming. Cluttering up the thread with a million and one accusations is dumb. The 3 big fos's are supersoft, redff, and myself. I know I'm town. As I just said above redff seems to be almost too spammy to be mafia, and as for supersoft:

Original Message From supersoft:
mh probably... I'll never make jokes in english again. Nobody got the irony :-/

But it's like supersoft 8:5 redFF

what do you think of redFF? would be very kind of you to look over the accuses against him - i think there is something in it.
+ i don't give up so fast ;D

Original Message From Pyo:
you might be dead anyway. I wasn't following the thread carefully when the whole VT claim nonsense went down, but you may have screwed yourself there.

Original Message From supersoft:
On July 19 2011 21:46 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:39 Kurumi wrote:
prplhz y u so flyin' like a g6 under the radar
Kavradgon, y u no aggressive like in PYPI
redff, y u so scum
supersoft,y u terrible scum
pyo,y u terrible 3rd party
come at me mafias


This is like the 4th game I've seen of you now where you've been making insane posts like this. I would have thought that co-hosting a game would have gotten you to chill out, but I guess that was a little much to hope for. Throwing around accusations just creates chaos in an already chaotic day 1.


i thought the exact the same thing :D
but in my current situation, i was afraid another honest statement would be my end :D


I'm inclined to believe that some of the whole VT claim thing might have been lost in translation, but then again, why would he try to be my friend? It seems weird.


That's suspicious behavior. These people need to be flushed out. Sure not every inactive player is scum, but if you let mafia get away without posting much they're going to win. The town is really its biggest enemy in this situation, which is what the mafia wants.


well you were one of them...

Look day 1 has been a cluster fuck of random accusations and needless spam. But there can only be 1 lynch. So why should I have to spam up the thread with accusations when I can easily do it during the next night/day cycle once I have more information? How is that sabotaging town? Isn't that exactly what mafia wants? FoS on a ton of people? no? Throwing out random accusations that isn't founded on solid evidence seems silly to me - wouldn't it be better for me to let things continue along until the last moment possible so my accusations are based on something solid? w/e, it's not like I can really change anyone's mind, but I'll give my list of suspicions when I'm damn well ready to...
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 19 2011 14:22 GMT
#744
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW WEAPOOOON!

Take dat Pyo!
My Vote is on Your Red DRESS BABY

MY NEW WEAPON MAKES BABIES CRY MUWAWUHAWUH
CB I expected a lot more from You, You are not as suspicious after re-reading Your posts, still You've written that gem
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=18#343
about not posting enough.. being scared and stuff. But yeah, You're a bit suspicious for me, but basically a null read
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#745
On July 19 2011 23:16 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 22:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:47 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:26 Mig wrote:
Pyo wtf you realize all you have done this game is say you aren't suspicious of anyone like 50 times. Surely there has to be someone you are suspicious of? There are 25 pages of posts. Are you really saying you haven't seen anything at all that worries you?


I don't understand why everyone keeps pressuring me to start accusing people. Sure there are suspicious people. About half the people in the game haven't really posted much of anything. We've got a bunch of people throwing out 4+ simultaneous accusations. You've been happy-go-lucky PM spamming. Cluttering up the thread with a million and one accusations is dumb. The 3 big fos's are supersoft, redff, and myself. I know I'm town. As I just said above redff seems to be almost too spammy to be mafia, and as for supersoft:

Original Message From supersoft:
mh probably... I'll never make jokes in english again. Nobody got the irony :-/

But it's like supersoft 8:5 redFF

what do you think of redFF? would be very kind of you to look over the accuses against him - i think there is something in it.
+ i don't give up so fast ;D

Original Message From Pyo:
you might be dead anyway. I wasn't following the thread carefully when the whole VT claim nonsense went down, but you may have screwed yourself there.

Original Message From supersoft:
On July 19 2011 21:46 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:39 Kurumi wrote:
prplhz y u so flyin' like a g6 under the radar
Kavradgon, y u no aggressive like in PYPI
redff, y u so scum
supersoft,y u terrible scum
pyo,y u terrible 3rd party
come at me mafias


This is like the 4th game I've seen of you now where you've been making insane posts like this. I would have thought that co-hosting a game would have gotten you to chill out, but I guess that was a little much to hope for. Throwing around accusations just creates chaos in an already chaotic day 1.


i thought the exact the same thing :D
but in my current situation, i was afraid another honest statement would be my end :D


I'm inclined to believe that some of the whole VT claim thing might have been lost in translation, but then again, why would he try to be my friend? It seems weird.


That's suspicious behavior. These people need to be flushed out. Sure not every inactive player is scum, but if you let mafia get away without posting much they're going to win. The town is really its biggest enemy in this situation, which is what the mafia wants.


well you were one of them...

Look day 1 has been a cluster fuck of random accusations and needless spam. But there can only be 1 lynch. So why should I have to spam up the thread with accusations when I can easily do it during the next night/day cycle once I have more information? How is that sabotaging town? Isn't that exactly what mafia wants? FoS on a ton of people? no? Throwing out random accusations that isn't founded on solid evidence seems silly to me - wouldn't it be better for me to let things continue along until the last moment possible so my accusations are based on something solid? w/e, it's not like I can really change anyone's mind, but I'll give my list of suspicions when I'm damn well ready to...


Do you think any of the current lynch suspects are scummy?

If not, then who is scummy? Why? Build a case.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
July 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#746
On July 19 2011 23:16 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 22:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:47 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:26 Mig wrote:
Pyo wtf you realize all you have done this game is say you aren't suspicious of anyone like 50 times. Surely there has to be someone you are suspicious of? There are 25 pages of posts. Are you really saying you haven't seen anything at all that worries you?


I don't understand why everyone keeps pressuring me to start accusing people. Sure there are suspicious people. About half the people in the game haven't really posted much of anything. We've got a bunch of people throwing out 4+ simultaneous accusations. You've been happy-go-lucky PM spamming. Cluttering up the thread with a million and one accusations is dumb. The 3 big fos's are supersoft, redff, and myself. I know I'm town. As I just said above redff seems to be almost too spammy to be mafia, and as for supersoft:

Original Message From supersoft:
mh probably... I'll never make jokes in english again. Nobody got the irony :-/

But it's like supersoft 8:5 redFF

what do you think of redFF? would be very kind of you to look over the accuses against him - i think there is something in it.
+ i don't give up so fast ;D

Original Message From Pyo:
you might be dead anyway. I wasn't following the thread carefully when the whole VT claim nonsense went down, but you may have screwed yourself there.

Original Message From supersoft:
On July 19 2011 21:46 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:39 Kurumi wrote:
prplhz y u so flyin' like a g6 under the radar
Kavradgon, y u no aggressive like in PYPI
redff, y u so scum
supersoft,y u terrible scum
pyo,y u terrible 3rd party
come at me mafias


This is like the 4th game I've seen of you now where you've been making insane posts like this. I would have thought that co-hosting a game would have gotten you to chill out, but I guess that was a little much to hope for. Throwing around accusations just creates chaos in an already chaotic day 1.


i thought the exact the same thing :D
but in my current situation, i was afraid another honest statement would be my end :D


I'm inclined to believe that some of the whole VT claim thing might have been lost in translation, but then again, why would he try to be my friend? It seems weird.


That's suspicious behavior. These people need to be flushed out. Sure not every inactive player is scum, but if you let mafia get away without posting much they're going to win. The town is really its biggest enemy in this situation, which is what the mafia wants.


well you were one of them...

Look day 1 has been a cluster fuck of random accusations and needless spam. But there can only be 1 lynch. So why should I have to spam up the thread with accusations when I can easily do it during the next night/day cycle once I have more information? How is that sabotaging town? Isn't that exactly what mafia wants? FoS on a ton of people? no? Throwing out random accusations that isn't founded on solid evidence seems silly to me - wouldn't it be better for me to let things continue along until the last moment possible so my accusations are based on something solid? w/e, it's not like I can really change anyone's mind, but I'll give my list of suspicions when I'm damn well ready to...


On the contrary, I think Day 1 has been reasonable and less spammy than the past games I have been in. There has mostly relevant discussion and less fluff/spam than say PTP or XXXIX which were a true definition of cluster-fuck.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 19 2011 14:26 GMT
#747
On July 19 2011 23:25 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 23:16 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:47 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 22:26 Mig wrote:
Pyo wtf you realize all you have done this game is say you aren't suspicious of anyone like 50 times. Surely there has to be someone you are suspicious of? There are 25 pages of posts. Are you really saying you haven't seen anything at all that worries you?


I don't understand why everyone keeps pressuring me to start accusing people. Sure there are suspicious people. About half the people in the game haven't really posted much of anything. We've got a bunch of people throwing out 4+ simultaneous accusations. You've been happy-go-lucky PM spamming. Cluttering up the thread with a million and one accusations is dumb. The 3 big fos's are supersoft, redff, and myself. I know I'm town. As I just said above redff seems to be almost too spammy to be mafia, and as for supersoft:

Original Message From supersoft:
mh probably... I'll never make jokes in english again. Nobody got the irony :-/

But it's like supersoft 8:5 redFF

what do you think of redFF? would be very kind of you to look over the accuses against him - i think there is something in it.
+ i don't give up so fast ;D

Original Message From Pyo:
you might be dead anyway. I wasn't following the thread carefully when the whole VT claim nonsense went down, but you may have screwed yourself there.

Original Message From supersoft:
On July 19 2011 21:46 Pyo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:39 Kurumi wrote:
prplhz y u so flyin' like a g6 under the radar
Kavradgon, y u no aggressive like in PYPI
redff, y u so scum
supersoft,y u terrible scum
pyo,y u terrible 3rd party
come at me mafias


This is like the 4th game I've seen of you now where you've been making insane posts like this. I would have thought that co-hosting a game would have gotten you to chill out, but I guess that was a little much to hope for. Throwing around accusations just creates chaos in an already chaotic day 1.


i thought the exact the same thing :D
but in my current situation, i was afraid another honest statement would be my end :D


I'm inclined to believe that some of the whole VT claim thing might have been lost in translation, but then again, why would he try to be my friend? It seems weird.


That's suspicious behavior. These people need to be flushed out. Sure not every inactive player is scum, but if you let mafia get away without posting much they're going to win. The town is really its biggest enemy in this situation, which is what the mafia wants.


well you were one of them...

Look day 1 has been a cluster fuck of random accusations and needless spam. But there can only be 1 lynch. So why should I have to spam up the thread with accusations when I can easily do it during the next night/day cycle once I have more information? How is that sabotaging town? Isn't that exactly what mafia wants? FoS on a ton of people? no? Throwing out random accusations that isn't founded on solid evidence seems silly to me - wouldn't it be better for me to let things continue along until the last moment possible so my accusations are based on something solid? w/e, it's not like I can really change anyone's mind, but I'll give my list of suspicions when I'm damn well ready to...


On the contrary, I think Day 1 has been reasonable and less spammy than the past games I have been in. There has mostly relevant discussion and less fluff/spam than say PTP or XXXIX which were a true definition of cluster-fuck.


you clearly didn't read waw2
Computer says mafia
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 19 2011 14:30 GMT
#748
God I feel so neglected. You all suck, except for Drazerk. Vote for freaking wiggles. )=<
darkness overpowering
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 19 2011 14:37 GMT
#749
On July 19 2011 23:30 ghrur wrote:
God I feel so neglected. You all suck, except for Drazerk. Vote for freaking wiggles. )=<


I thought your case against wiggles was good ghrur. But I think the case against pyo or redff is stronger right now.
Moderator
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 19 2011 14:38 GMT
#750
Also how I propose we use our Vig hits:

Find the player that is most Pro Town. All Vigs declare and roleclaim to this guy, then get a Vig quicktopic going on so their hits can be coordinated.

It is highly unlikely that any Mafia member will try to slip himself into this circle since doing so will only get you shot. I'd suggest that only the Vigs outlined in the OP be included in this group:

Zsasz, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Firefly

If you're a Vig and got some hidden role, tough luck.

If all the Vigs start dying, then we know the Pro Town guy is a snitch.

Pros
Vig hits don't overlap
Vigs can discuss amongst themselves in a confirmed Town circle

Cons
If the Pro Town player we choose is Mafia, we lose all our Vigs in exchange for 1 Mafia member (bad trade) - I suggest we don't try doing this plan until someone is more or less confirmed Town
If Mafia has been given a list of available safeclaims and included in it were some of the roles in the OP then this whole plan is screwed

The latter point is what I am most afraid of. BC hinted that mass claiming won't break the game, so it may be that he provided Mafia safeclaims that were some of the names in the OP but not actually in the game.

BC can you confirm or deny this?

----------------

supersoft, I give up. You won't cooperate with me no matter what I try. Me and Palmar suspected redFF long before you did. I'm trying hard to give myself reasons to stop seeing you as scum but it's just not working.

----------------

Pyo at least is sticking to his guns, which gives some reason to believe that he actually believes what he's saying as misguided and wrong as it is.



wat
CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 19 2011 14:44 GMT
#751
On July 19 2011 22:52 supersoft wrote:
it's not wierd at all.

one question, am i allowed to ##unvote and get modkilled, in order to kill the one with the secondmost votes?

i'll do that.


This irks me to no end. If this were a legitimate question you would have reread all the game rules first to see if it were covered. If you were really trying to help out town you would have PM'ed the hosts in private. Town-oriented people dying is a bad thing, and this post is the equivalent of "kill me if you want to" and is antitown.

I'm still Pyoing though.



w/e, it's not like I can really change anyone's mind

Nahs probs not.

but I'll give my list of suspicions when I'm damn well ready to...

Before the end of the day?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 19 2011 14:49 GMT
#752
We don't really have to have our vigs claiming to anyone, especially on day 1, since they've unique names so we can just assign targets to them in public without anyone claiming. They aren't compulsive vigs so there's no rush anyway
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
July 19 2011 14:50 GMT
#753
On July 19 2011 23:38 Curu wrote:
Also how I propose we use our Vig hits:

Find the player that is most Pro Town. All Vigs declare and roleclaim to this guy, then get a Vig quicktopic going on so their hits can be coordinated.

It is highly unlikely that any Mafia member will try to slip himself into this circle since doing so will only get you shot. I'd suggest that only the Vigs outlined in the OP be included in this group:

Zsasz, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Firefly

If you're a Vig and got some hidden role, tough luck.

If all the Vigs start dying, then we know the Pro Town guy is a snitch.

Pros
Vig hits don't overlap
Vigs can discuss amongst themselves in a confirmed Town circle

Cons
If the Pro Town player we choose is Mafia, we lose all our Vigs in exchange for 1 Mafia member (bad trade) - I suggest we don't try doing this plan until someone is more or less confirmed Town
If Mafia has been given a list of available safeclaims and included in it were some of the roles in the OP then this whole plan is screwed

The latter point is what I am most afraid of. BC hinted that mass claiming won't break the game, so it may be that he provided Mafia safeclaims that were some of the names in the OP but not actually in the game.

BC can you confirm or deny this?

----------------

supersoft, I give up. You won't cooperate with me no matter what I try. Me and Palmar suspected redFF long before you did. I'm trying hard to give myself reasons to stop seeing you as scum but it's just not working.

----------------

Pyo at least is sticking to his guns, which gives some reason to believe that he actually believes what he's saying as misguided and wrong as it is.





Worst Idea Ever!!
Who determines who is the most pro-town player? If by chance, the player selected to mass claim to is mafia, we lose all of vigi's in a single night.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 19 2011 14:50 GMT
#754
To add on to my Vig plan, if we can get a DT in there too then the Vigs can shoot down anyone the DT has found red.

Identity concerns can be worked around by posting with the character names in the Quicktopic, that way only the confirmed Town organizer knows who everyone is.

Yeah there's no rush, but it'd be a nice thing to do if we can get a confirmed Townie.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 19 2011 14:51 GMT
#755
On July 19 2011 23:50 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 23:38 Curu wrote:
Also how I propose we use our Vig hits:

Find the player that is most Pro Town. All Vigs declare and roleclaim to this guy, then get a Vig quicktopic going on so their hits can be coordinated.

It is highly unlikely that any Mafia member will try to slip himself into this circle since doing so will only get you shot. I'd suggest that only the Vigs outlined in the OP be included in this group:

Zsasz, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Firefly

If you're a Vig and got some hidden role, tough luck.

If all the Vigs start dying, then we know the Pro Town guy is a snitch.

Pros
Vig hits don't overlap
Vigs can discuss amongst themselves in a confirmed Town circle

Cons
If the Pro Town player we choose is Mafia, we lose all our Vigs in exchange for 1 Mafia member (bad trade) - I suggest we don't try doing this plan until someone is more or less confirmed Town
If Mafia has been given a list of available safeclaims and included in it were some of the roles in the OP then this whole plan is screwed

The latter point is what I am most afraid of. BC hinted that mass claiming won't break the game, so it may be that he provided Mafia safeclaims that were some of the names in the OP but not actually in the game.

BC can you confirm or deny this?

----------------

supersoft, I give up. You won't cooperate with me no matter what I try. Me and Palmar suspected redFF long before you did. I'm trying hard to give myself reasons to stop seeing you as scum but it's just not working.

----------------

Pyo at least is sticking to his guns, which gives some reason to believe that he actually believes what he's saying as misguided and wrong as it is.





Worst Idea Ever!!
Who determines who is the most pro-town player? If by chance, the player selected to mass claim to is mafia, we lose all of vigi's in a single night.


Obviously not on day one, but the confirmed Towns will start popping up later in the game.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 19 2011 14:53 GMT
#756
EBWOP: But yeah nevermind, syllogism is a smarter man than me. We can just assign their names in the thread /facepalm
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CreamyButter
Profile Joined February 2010
United States56 Posts
July 19 2011 14:53 GMT
#757
Worst Idea Ever!!
Who determines who is the most pro-town player? If by chance, the player selected to mass claim to is mafia, we lose all of vigi's in a single night.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 19 2011 14:57 GMT
#758
Curu if mafia gets into the circle they won't kill the vigs lol. They will attempt to misdirect all of the shots. Your plan has a huge potential for a disaster. I would rather the Vigs act on their own since they don't know for sure right now who is guaranteed to be town besides themselves. Their shots won't be wasted by overlap anyway. If we do have a confirmed townie later on then we can discuss the idea of people claiming to him.
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Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
July 19 2011 14:59 GMT
#759
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On July 19 2011 23:51 Curu wrote:
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On July 19 2011 23:50 Eternalmisfit wrote:
On July 19 2011 23:38 Curu wrote:
Also how I propose we use our Vig hits:

Find the player that is most Pro Town. All Vigs declare and roleclaim to this guy, then get a Vig quicktopic going on so their hits can be coordinated.

It is highly unlikely that any Mafia member will try to slip himself into this circle since doing so will only get you shot. I'd suggest that only the Vigs outlined in the OP be included in this group:

Zsasz, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Firefly

If you're a Vig and got some hidden role, tough luck.

If all the Vigs start dying, then we know the Pro Town guy is a snitch.

Pros
Vig hits don't overlap
Vigs can discuss amongst themselves in a confirmed Town circle

Cons
If the Pro Town player we choose is Mafia, we lose all our Vigs in exchange for 1 Mafia member (bad trade) - I suggest we don't try doing this plan until someone is more or less confirmed Town
If Mafia has been given a list of available safeclaims and included in it were some of the roles in the OP then this whole plan is screwed

The latter point is what I am most afraid of. BC hinted that mass claiming won't break the game, so it may be that he provided Mafia safeclaims that were some of the names in the OP but not actually in the game.

BC can you confirm or deny this?

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supersoft, I give up. You won't cooperate with me no matter what I try. Me and Palmar suspected redFF long before you did. I'm trying hard to give myself reasons to stop seeing you as scum but it's just not working.

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Pyo at least is sticking to his guns, which gives some reason to believe that he actually believes what he's saying as misguided and wrong as it is.





Worst Idea Ever!!
Who determines who is the most pro-town player? If by chance, the player selected to mass claim to is mafia, we lose all of vigi's in a single night.


Obviously not on day one, but the confirmed Towns will start popping up later in the game.



I would like to remind everyone at this point (if you haven't read the role descriptions in the OP properly), there are four godfather like roles in the game. Thus, till the godfather and the third party are all eliminated, we will be hard-pressed to find confirmed townies. Of course, there will be people who are near-confirmed or highly likely to be town at late game but not 100% town till these roles still exist in the game.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 19 2011 15:00 GMT
#760
towncred for overagressive tunneling into bluefishing gj curu.
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