|
On July 18 2011 23:03 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:57 Amber[LighT] wrote:On July 18 2011 22:57 Curu wrote:
Mig's probably PMed everyone in this thread already.
Got any PM contacts besides him? He said in the PM convo with Mig that Mig was the only person to contact him. He also said he didn't contribute in thread and explained why his posts were useless because he had been active in PM land. So if Mig was the only person to PM Sand like Amber says, then why does he claim he's been contributing in PM land? He hasn't. Why have nothing insightful at all except some throwaway analysis done in 5 minutes that implicates the ones putting pressure on him. So let me recap: -Sandsoft posts meaningless useful fluff that's anti-Town and explains his easy bandwagon vote -Sandsoft gets called out and pressured a bit -Sandsoft then tries to do some "analysis" and 5 minutes later his results: the two people who have been accusing him -Sandsoft claims he's been useless and not contributing in thread because he's been busy in PM land. Hey Sandsoft, who have you been PMing bro I think I've found my definite day 1 lynch unless he can show me who he's PMed (and get confirmation from that person).
Great recap, I was thinking the same things as I was reading this. Sandsoft is my top candidate atm.
|
On July 19 2011 04:52 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 04:40 redFF wrote:
Curu:
I made that post on you because you started a bandwagon on someone with flimsy reasoning and it looks to me like nobody is trying to stop you. You've spammed up this thread the most out of anyone curu...
This bandwagon is dumb. Curu post less you aren't as good as you seem to think you are lol. Apparently he found 2 scum day 1 GUYZ!!!!!!!111111ONEONEONE!!!!
Please people read the thread and form your own opinions, differentiate between scum and newer player who is being intimidated.
Saying i only started trying to post useful stuff when you started tunneling supersoft is wrong and a cheap way to try and lower my credibility. If you are town stop being stupid, if you are scum continue but i implore everyone else to stop listening to him. I fully agree that people just mindlessly bandwagoning and then not doing much all day is awful, but I'm not quite seeing where your confidence in Supersoft being town comes from. Is it because you know his alignment?
The reasoning for his lynch is terrible, I've explained why. I think he is newbie town not scum. differentiating between bad and scum day 1 is difficult but i feel like he is the former. And the extent to which he is being tunneled is ridiculous. Curu is convinced both him and me are scum and from now on anything we say is going to seem scummy to him. Literally everything supersoft has said since this tunneling started has been twisted to look scummy by Curu. I'm voting for him because he is spamming and leading a terrible bandwagon in my opinion, scummiest person in the game for me atm. I'm more pissed at all the people randomly jumping on it though.
I could be wrong i guess but that's just, like, my opinion man.
|
redFF, can you point out one helpful thing supersoft has done so far?
I don't get how I'm a super wizard making his posts turn into useless fluff and scumtells.
|
That's now what I'm arguing. I'm arguing he isn't scum, I never said anything about anyone being useful/useless.
|
And you're tunneling me just as hard as I'm tunneling supersoft. Except I'm doing it because I see lies and scumtells from him. You're doing it because I'm accusing supersoft.
I asked you many times who else you think is scummy and all you do is come up with more insults at me.
|
On July 19 2011 05:10 redFF wrote:
That's now what I'm arguing. I'm arguing he isn't scum, I never said anything about anyone being useful/useless.
So a useless, lying player is not a good lynch?
Oh please tell me what you think is a good lynch then. Do we sit on our asses and wait till the DT has found the entire team?
|
On July 19 2011 04:45 Curu wrote:
supersoft, why don't you tell us who you think is scummy then?
I already did that. READ THE THREAD !!!
On July 19 2011 04:53 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 03:38 supersoft wrote:On July 18 2011 22:34 ketomai wrote:
Right now I'm feeling supersoft. He bandwagoned a pretty bad vote and didn't give much analysis. From a previous game, he played similarly as mafia. He just pretty much finds the easiest vote that doesn't affect mafia and then tries to stay out of the way and lurk/posts generic agreements and contentless posts. He only starts posting significantly when he defends himself and even then sticks to generic statements.
I thought about this while I was away. I never played with you before and I never read anything of you before. Did anyone in your mafia-quicktopic post that about me? I did not play with you, no, but it's not like I do not have access to the games in which you played. To answer the smurf questions: it's the same account, I have never played mafia on a smurf, just had a name change (which should be obvious from my posting history). I'll post more things after I get back from class.
|
On July 19 2011 05:11 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:10 redFF wrote:
That's now what I'm arguing. I'm arguing he isn't scum, I never said anything about anyone being useful/useless. So a useless, lying player is not a good lynch? Oh please tell me what you think is a good lynch then. Do we sit on our asses and wait till the DT has found the entire team?
scum is a good lynch lol. Useless townie is still town. If you wanna argue more please pm me.
I'm still struggling to find where he lied. He said he was active in pm land, maybe pm'ing 1 or 2 people counts as active for him? I dunno. Nothing he has done seems that scummy to me, everything he has done he has explained. It just doesn't seem like scum behaviour to me. You look far scummier imo.
|
I don't get it redFF
Where is the town logic in defending him like you're doing, obviously you're managing to actually reduce the suspicion on that guy, but only by applying some extra on to you.
You see, if this was a veteran posting the things he's doing, we'd be all over him. He has lied and he has posted very weak cases, tried to make friends and been careful not to stick his neck out.
Sure, you can apply that to a bad newbie, but this isn't super's first game. And yes sure it could be a mislynch. The problem I have is how the fuck do you know?
By this logic are we only allowed to lynch Vets on day 1? because any newbie acting scummy can just be blamed on "bad newbie"? Like really, several newbies have fucked up, including Pyo, Supersoft and CB, but more than anyone else, Supersoft straight up lied to us when he claimed to be active in PM land, contradictory to what is actually the truth.
The only logic I can apply to you defending him is that you already know his alignment and this is a shitty attempt at buying town cred.
|
On July 19 2011 05:14 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 04:45 Curu wrote:
supersoft, why don't you tell us who you think is scummy then?
I already did that. READ THE THREAD !!!Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 04:53 ketomai wrote:On July 19 2011 03:38 supersoft wrote:On July 18 2011 22:34 ketomai wrote:
Right now I'm feeling supersoft. He bandwagoned a pretty bad vote and didn't give much analysis. From a previous game, he played similarly as mafia. He just pretty much finds the easiest vote that doesn't affect mafia and then tries to stay out of the way and lurk/posts generic agreements and contentless posts. He only starts posting significantly when he defends himself and even then sticks to generic statements.
I thought about this while I was away. I never played with you before and I never read anything of you before. Did anyone in your mafia-quicktopic post that about me? I did not play with you, no, but it's not like I do not have access to the games in which you played. To answer the smurf questions: it's the same account, I have never played mafia on a smurf, just had a name change (which should be obvious from my posting history). I'll post more things after I get back from class.
So me and Mig because we both think PMs are good weapons for Town, and ketomai because he accused you.
Am I correct?
On July 19 2011 03:38 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:34 ketomai wrote:
Right now I'm feeling supersoft. He bandwagoned a pretty bad vote and didn't give much analysis. From a previous game, he played similarly as mafia. He just pretty much finds the easiest vote that doesn't affect mafia and then tries to stay out of the way and lurk/posts generic agreements and contentless posts. He only starts posting significantly when he defends himself and even then sticks to generic statements.
I thought about this while I was away. I never played with you before and I never read anything of you before. Did anyone in your mafia-quicktopic post that about me?
On July 18 2011 22:51 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:47 Curu wrote:On July 18 2011 22:42 supersoft wrote:On July 18 2011 22:15 syllogism wrote:
I'm falling into my PM game tendency of not posting my thoughts in the thread and rather letting other people do it for me. I'll have to echo Palmar on CB, but he does look like someone who is trying to contribute and can be thoughtful. Moreover, if he isn't town aligned, his posts read more like Insane Inmate than someone who has help (though "I guess I'll start accusing people" is pretty awful and could be interpreted as "my team told me to do this"). I'd rather consider him a decent vigi target as lynching insane inmates doesn't provide much in way of voting patterns.
Not liking Pyo's posts thus far, but attributing that to disagreeing with his logic/cases
Supersoft on the other hand has been completely worthless and his few posts have been scummy/anti-town. He isn't entirely new to the game, so I'm not going to let that excuse fly.
##vote Supersoft yoep, it's not my first game, but my first game with PMs. Like you said there is a tendency for not posting in the thread and writing PMs instead. Same thing for me. My VT claim was a joke btw. I wanted to point out that I know that I am blindly bandwagoning and thought it was funny if I would connect it with the task of the VTs to lynch "moblike style" as described in the frontpost. All the people that go for this little statement now, just are too lazy to really read the thread and make a real accusation. For me it's scummy if people are connected with each other on the first day. This connection may be a support in an accusation or defending the other person. Usually townies don't trusts anybody at the first day. I have to make a plan of people that are around here and I try to figure out connections between them. That will be my task for the first day. brb $20 it's me he finds! Where was all this content before you got pressured? Hmm? Before that you joke around with a VT claim ignoring the posts saying it was harmful for Town? Who have you been in PM contact with? No need to tell us what's in it, just some names that can confirm you have been doing something constructive like you are claiming. you and mig.
I did read the thread. Your posts and accusations have no content.
On July 19 2011 05:16 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:11 Curu wrote:On July 19 2011 05:10 redFF wrote:
That's now what I'm arguing. I'm arguing he isn't scum, I never said anything about anyone being useful/useless. So a useless, lying player is not a good lynch? Oh please tell me what you think is a good lynch then. Do we sit on our asses and wait till the DT has found the entire team? scum is a good lynch lol. Useless townie is still town. If you wanna argue more please pm me. I'm still struggling to find where he lied. He said he was active in pm land, maybe pm'ing 1 or 2 people counts as active for him? I dunno. Nothing he has done seems that scummy to me, everything he has done he has explained. It just doesn't seem like scum behaviour to me. You look far scummier imo.
Mig was the only person that had PMed him when he said he claimed he's been active in PM land. Spin it how you may, 1 person PMing you does not constitute active in any sense of the word. I'm not the only one who thought so. Go read where the bandwagon started on supersoft, by no means did I just throw out an accusation and everybody else start sheeping after me. People independently came to the same conclusion I did. Clearly this isn't me being the big bad wolf and pointing at someone and having everyone devour him. The bandwagon formed because several people thought supersoft was scummy.
And once again you're still unwilling to offer any more analysis except saying I am scummy.
I'll rehash once again, if supersoft is Town then he must be the worst Town player in history. He directly opposed all of the ground rules we set forth (no lying, no claiming VT). If you really think this is a newb's mistake then he deserves to die for his mistakes and learn by fire not to play like this as Town next time.
|
what you just said is if he is town we should still lynch him. That is just flat out wrong lol. i would say your bad posting and tunneling has harmed town more than supersoft has. I've explained why i voted you go reread i'm not doing it again.
I don't want to teach someone bad a lesson i want to lynch scum. A bad townie is better than a dead one...
|
On July 19 2011 05:16 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:11 Curu wrote:On July 19 2011 05:10 redFF wrote:
That's now what I'm arguing. I'm arguing he isn't scum, I never said anything about anyone being useful/useless. So a useless, lying player is not a good lynch? Oh please tell me what you think is a good lynch then. Do we sit on our asses and wait till the DT has found the entire team? scum is a good lynch lol. Useless townie is still town. If you wanna argue more please pm me.
WHY
WHY
WHY do you people insist on taking everything to PMs? That's the BIGGEST scumtell in this entire game. That last sentence of yours literally translates into "I don't want anyone to see what I write, come talk to me in private"
palmar's got a pretty good point too, that's 2 scumtells
|
No it's not. Mislynching a bad Townie now is far better than mislynching a bad townie at mylo.
Why are you so certain he's Town? Because he's playing so anti-Town that he can't possibly be Mafia?
Like Palmar so helpfully pointed out this is hardly his first game.
|
redFF your stance is extremely vague but I have managed to make out that you don't want to lynch bad townies but someone that is exclusively scum?
How are we going to do this Day 1? Is it not wise to lynch someone that is EITHER a bad townie or scum? Rather than defending him, why don't you find someone that is scummier? Surely then you'll actually have a reason for not wanting to lynch supersoft other than trying to buy yourself town cred.
|
I don't think he's going the Town cred route since he knows if he somehow redirects a lynch onto me I'm going to flip Town.
I think he just legitimately does not want to see his scum friend die on day 1. He didn't show up and defend CreamyButter's newbness at all when people were voting for him, he only showed up after supersoft started getting heat. And he was in the thread then, posting stuff like SILENCE NEWB so it's not like he was MIA for CB's wagon.
If neither of them are scum then so help us God...
|
curu, you comment everything and provide nothing.
do you believe that ketomai read my last games or do you think someone told him about me in the mafiaquicktopic?
|
We don't need God's help, we just need vigis who can use their head and shoot freaking lurkers and herp derp flying under the radar superheroes.
|
On July 19 2011 05:51 Curu wrote:
I don't think he's going the Town cred route since he knows if he somehow redirects a lynch onto me I'm going to flip Town.
I think he just legitimately does not want to see his scum friend die on day 1. He didn't show up and defend CreamyButter's newbness at all when people were voting for him, he only showed up after supersoft started getting heat. And he was in the thread then, posting stuff like SILENCE NEWB so it's not like he was MIA for CB's wagon.
If neither of them are scum then so help us God...
just call everyone disagreeing with you terrible moar its real productive...
|
If it was a Mafia plan to implicate you supersoft then it makes no sense for the person who has the info (played with you before) not to post it himself. Why would he make ketomai post it for him?
You're really grasping at straws and not contributing anything. Your defense against my pressure has turned into pointing out that I spelled your name wrong. If you are Town, I'm going to die a little bit inside.
|
On July 19 2011 06:06 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:51 Curu wrote:
I don't think he's going the Town cred route since he knows if he somehow redirects a lynch onto me I'm going to flip Town.
I think he just legitimately does not want to see his scum friend die on day 1. He didn't show up and defend CreamyButter's newbness at all when people were voting for him, he only showed up after supersoft started getting heat. And he was in the thread then, posting stuff like SILENCE NEWB so it's not like he was MIA for CB's wagon.
If neither of them are scum then so help us God... just call everyone disagreeing with you terrible moar its real productive...
Err...haven't you been calling me terrible all game cause I don't agree with you?
You know what, I'm just going to ignore you. Obviously I don't need to sway anyone's opinion anymore, you can just keep digging your own grave by yourself.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
