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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 09 2011 14:58 GMT
#1861
On July 09 2011 23:52 syllogism wrote:
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed

If he has no votes why hasn't he been modkilled? Sorry, but I hate lurkers.

My opinion on ~Opz~ ?

He has exactly the same response I do, when a situation is sketchy like that resolve it. Easiest way to resolve it is to kill the main suspect. Until you caught the tidbit about the win-con I would have happily lynched ym. I do think ~Opz~ has a couple scummy content-less posts, but those wanting to kill YM are in no way scummy, in fact they are the proper response.
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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 09 2011 14:58 GMT
#1862
On July 09 2011 23:22 Caller wrote:
he will be soundly punished for the minor ones when i have time.



WTF DID I DO WRONG T_T
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 09 2011 14:59 GMT
#1863
On July 09 2011 23:54 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote: ULTRA
##vote: GMarshal

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237920&currentpage=41#818
blatant lying on day one, not on my watch

What did I lie about?
Moderator
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 09 2011 14:59 GMT
#1864
On July 09 2011 23:58 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 23:52 syllogism wrote:
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed

If he has no votes why hasn't he been modkilled? Sorry, but I hate lurkers.

My opinion on ~Opz~ ?

He has exactly the same response I do, when a situation is sketchy like that resolve it. Easiest way to resolve it is to kill the main suspect. Until you caught the tidbit about the win-con I would have happily lynched ym. I do think ~Opz~ has a couple scummy content-less posts, but those wanting to kill YM are in no way scummy, in fact they are the proper response.


Gtrsrs was kicked out of his house, he pmed me saying sorry if caller wants to modkill go ahead.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#1865
On July 09 2011 23:58 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 23:52 syllogism wrote:
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed

If he has no votes why hasn't he been modkilled? Sorry, but I hate lurkers.

My opinion on ~Opz~ ?

He has exactly the same response I do, when a situation is sketchy like that resolve it. Easiest way to resolve it is to kill the main suspect. Until you caught the tidbit about the win-con I would have happily lynched ym. I do think ~Opz~ has a couple scummy content-less posts, but those wanting to kill YM are in no way scummy, in fact they are the proper response.

The problem is he wanted to lynch YM before this likely fake "flip" and after that he was "uncertain"
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#1866
On July 10 2011 00:00 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 23:58 GMarshal wrote:
On July 09 2011 23:52 syllogism wrote:
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed

If he has no votes why hasn't he been modkilled? Sorry, but I hate lurkers.

My opinion on ~Opz~ ?

He has exactly the same response I do, when a situation is sketchy like that resolve it. Easiest way to resolve it is to kill the main suspect. Until you caught the tidbit about the win-con I would have happily lynched ym. I do think ~Opz~ has a couple scummy content-less posts, but those wanting to kill YM are in no way scummy, in fact they are the proper response.

The problem is he wanted to lynch YM before this likely fake "flip" and after that he was "uncertain"

Oh, I didn't notice the timings on that.

Let me go back and look again, I'll get back to you on that, but if thats the case then yes its scummy, very scummy.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:06 GMT
#1867
Stop voting for GM. As I've said before it's extremelly unlikely that scum would claim a role that's in the OP under Allies. Those roles are very likely to be in the game (almost 100%) and no scum would risk being counterclaimed right off the bat and thus out themselves. I don't care how scummy he's been acting, let's focus on obvscum OPZ.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#1868
I also suport name claiming. Yes, I realize some people have other winconditions other than kill axis, but guess what? I do not. I also do not care for your secondary win conditions at all. Everyone not nameclaiming will be put under heavy scrutiny. Name claiming does not out your role so don't even try to argue that. Have a good day.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 15:12 GMT
#1869
Should we wait until tomorrow since someone is building maginot line and if he dies, it gets interrupted ? I suppose we might have a medic type role though
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 09 2011 15:14 GMT
#1870
At least you guys are listening to me now and lynching opz. Shame it took getting nuked to do it.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 09 2011 15:18 GMT
#1871
On July 09 2011 23:59 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 23:54 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote: ULTRA
##vote: GMarshal

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237920&currentpage=41#818
blatant lying on day one, not on my watch

What did I lie about?

click on the link
dr Helvetica <3
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 09 2011 15:22 GMT
#1872
Holy shit. So if I start nuking and acting like a total reckless player just out to create as much confusion and chaos as possible I become confirmed Town? You two are absolutely amazing at diverting attention away from yourselves just by confirming each other and convincing one other player that you're right. YOU ALSO BOTH FUCKING NUKED AGAIN UPON BEING LYNCHED WHEN ITS BEEN PLASTERED OVER A MILLION PAGES NOT TO NUKE WHEN YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED IF YOU ARE TOWN.

You also said you'd defend yourself then haven't said anything sandroba. Explain your actions. I'm inclined to believe you are a zombie because your posting went from extremely opinionated to extremely mellow right after the zombie alien crap and then heated up again when no one seemed to want to lynch you just for being a zombie (which I agree with, we don't know wtf zombies do).

I asked:

If both of you flip green, who do you suspect and why?
If you flip green and the other guy flips red, who do you suspect and why?
I don't care about your analysis if you both flip red. But you can provide that too for shits and giggles if you want.
I also don't care about your analysis if you flip red. Shits and giggles welcome.

Give these thoughts.

Yes I'm tunneling you. As it is suspected lynch targets throw the wagon onto someone else way too easily. This town has no focus. Putting pressure on someone means nothing. This is a bad bad bad Town environment. If you actually ever make a compelling case that doesn't revolve around "lol stop tunneling me" or "lol I nameclaimed" or "lol if I was Mafia I wouldn't be playing this obvious" then I'll consider it.

This fake day post thing has merit because either YM is acting like a thoughtless impulsive player (and that's damn good acting) or I really doubt his ability to come up with a fake name claim. Then again I doubt his ability to be able to think of something like an Axis campaign that fakes the name either. This is like reverse OMGUS now...you suck so much you can't be Mafia.

If Town is convinced you guys are innocent then I'll take my attention off you two. I have more players I suspect but my reasons for tunneling you now are that if you are not killed:

-We establish that players who randomly fire nukes at will, who fire their nukes when in danger of being lynched, and who have either provided nothing in terms of analysis (YM) or obsession with clearing themselves as obvtown (sandroba) are not under serious pressure to be lynched.

-Mafia can play as reckless as they want, nuke everyone, and contribute no analysis except trying to clear themselves. This is like lurking where you can't get a read on anyone except worse because Mafia can kill people while doing it. I stated earlier that I -hate- lurkers. This is because of the effect that Mafia can easily hide among them if there are enough and become more or less undetectable. This is a hundred times worse because they hide in plain sight while freely using their nukes and everyone is like "oh naww, that's too dumb to be Mafia."

Even if you two are possibly Town you're hurting Town with your behavior. I asked you to stop nuking but clearly you're both still acting in self interest because you think you're being lynched. And acting in self interest is not pro Town behavior.


wat
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:23 GMT
#1873
@syllo nah, my bet is that several players won't be claiming due to secondary objectives so that player can hide amongst those for now. It's extremelly imba for town to have a bunch of confirmed townies, so I don't see the point of delaying it any further.
Also inb4 someone argues that it will give mafia a bunch of targets. To that I say: What the hell is the difference for town? Why do you care if scum hits someone that wouldn't be confirmed otherwise?

@deconduo where's your nameclaim? Are you gonna survive this nuke?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:26 GMT
#1874
@curu The town IS focused on lynching the obvscum OPZ, don't you try to fuck with us. You are arguing nonsense over and over. You aparently don't read the thread or don't use your head. You just made into the list of invisible posters.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:27 GMT
#1875
Also feel free to nuke me to prove I'm not lying. Beware of the radiation though =P.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 15:34 GMT
#1876
On July 10 2011 00:27 sandroba wrote:
Also feel free to nuke me to prove I'm not lying. Beware of the radiation though =P.


Do you want me dead?

Please stop hurting captain planet.

@GM best to ignore the awesome all he tends to go hyper aggressive over every little lie people tell him.

I think pretty much all focus is on Opz right now so unless he brings a miracle out of that lurker nest of his Ill probably vote for him too
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:34 GMT
#1877
And I'm not focusing on clearing myself quite the contrary. I've done 2 thourough analysis so far and have adapted to new information, while you have done nothing but midlessly tunnel me.
Also point me to your analysis where you identify me pushing mafia objectives or behaving in such way that proves I'm scum. Agressive and reckless =/= scum my friend and since you were able to point out citi.zen was mafia in CCM you have no excuse for thinking that. Lynching me and YM will provide nothing besides waste towns time. You are pushing scum objectives, good job to you if you are scum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 15:39 GMT
#1878
Oh right I forgot, Operation Ultra will probably give us a lot of insight into what we are dealing with and how many Red powers we have ( Role blockers etc )

Problem is we can't trust our trigger fingers for more than a few hours so we are probably going to have to go watchtower before radiation levels peek.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 09 2011 15:46 GMT
#1879
ULTRA: Reveals the target of all offensive night actions taken by the Axis for the next night. Will not disclose the actions.
I think offensive means hits :E
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 15:47 GMT
#1880
If we lynch or nuke mafia today I promisse not to nuke again if I'm alive tomorrow. If we don't I promisse I'll nuke again because I don't care who I lose to.
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