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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#537
sorry Drazerk, your right, if someone claims DT right now and another one claims RB, I will probabyl switch my vote on you...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 21:54 GMT
#541
On June 24 2011 06:50 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 06:41 supersoft wrote:
I am not the DT, but how is your "trick" supposed to convince me. It was pretty obvious that you are not the DT either - at first you say something like:"let me think about something" after that you claim DT. That was extremely artificial. Mafia could now just step up and claim DT if there is no real DT... This plan didn't work out too well... We will never know whether that will be the real DT or not...

I know, that I pushed two mislynches... Okay, aprudds wasn't a good choice right from the beginning, but it was a weird situation and I tried to save our medic (and I was right about this guy)...
But I thought Xedat was 100% scum...

Since today is the last chance for us to come back, I will read the whole thread again and try to find something apart from the whole DT/roleblock-Claimstory... Obviously we can't trust the DT that will now come forward... We don't know whether he's scum or not and we don't know whether Alderan is scum or not.
Again: Since this is the last chance, don't overreact if someone roleclaims... He and Alderan could be mafia or they could be innocent. We don't know. And we can't afford a mislynch!

These overeager decisions in the past, nearly costed us the game! Now calm down, its 4:3 we nearly have a 50% chance to one of them.


It wasn't so obvious until gtrsrs started running his mouth. Roleclaiming at night is not standard play hence "let me think of something." I will defend my lie by saying there was no downside to doing. Worst case scenario everyone sees through it and nothing changes, best case scenario if there is a DT/RB then I just gave the real DT a chance to save himself, and if there is no DT/RB, I gave gtrsrs a chance to save himself. Since I didn't get lucky, we're right where were before.

Also the DT coming forward now is no more or less likely to be trusted than if I didn't claim DT.


yes of course, that's right. The DTlie wasn't bad for us... It just dind't change anything
that's exactly what I wanted to point out.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 22:01 GMT
#546
Drazerk, please don't flood our conversation. I don't get the sense of most of your posts anyway.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 23:33 GMT
#550
accusing me, won't remove my vote from you ^_^
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 24 2011 22:11 GMT
#556
On June 25 2011 06:31 CjrNinja wrote:
Pretty apparent that Alderan lied about being rb'd. Since noone has stepped forward and claimed dt, i'll be putting my vote here.

##vote: Alderan


are you sure, that you didn't want to DTclaim, but abandoned it after seeing the epicfail of your buddy? :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 10:24 GMT
#569
Yes of course. Lynch me for no reason. This will win us the game for sure. Just reread day one, when you all voted on gtrsrs. I was the only one who put in some effort and read his postings. All of you were just bandwagoning around blindly. We can't afford another mislynch.

luckily I have a much better plan that lynching me and losing:

Look at Alderans post. He wanted someone to claim DT. That means, that there must be a mafioso left, who could claim DT for him! Unfortunately for him, their plan was revealed. What happened now? obviously they abandoned their plan, because noone claimed!
But let's have a look who didn't post/claimed something up to this point: Freeloader and CjrNinja. We have a 50/50 chance by now to get one of them now for sure!

Since you guys probably don't trust me and think that I am mafia, I stop now with my analysis. Because if I were mafia I'd probably suggest the townie out of these two. I let you decide who to lynch out of these two

+ Show Spoiler +

(I am not mafia and I really don't want to lose, I recommend CrjNinja - He is lurking all the time and bandwagoning. Very passive player, would have been a perfect blue. Now we know there isn't another blue, that points towards red! freeloader on the other hand is one of the more active players in here. But I think his fast vote on Drazerk this day wasn't thought out too well, not really protown, too)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 14:12 GMT
#572
I am innocent and you have to believe me! it's 3:2! if I die we lose!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 14:15 GMT
#573
##vote: Drazerk

if everyone is against all reason, I have to contervote against Drazerk and hope he's scum. Because I am not.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 14:21 GMT
#574
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 20:50 Treadmill wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 17:09 Drazerk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 15:08 freeloader625 wrote:
Shhh... do you hear the crickets? What started off started off as pages full of spam and back and forths' is now reduced to a dead game?

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 08:25 Alderan wrote:
Its laughable......

Phenomenal play by mafia, for what its worth, I was RB'd again, but it doesn't matter, this is surely my death sentence and mafia will have won the game.

There are 2 scenarios to how this happened.

Pyo thought he was saving the game by false claiming DT, but it was way to obvious, mafia picked up on it and risked getting DT checked to have a sure fire scape goat, in me. They only need one vote, so even if a DT claimed now to save me it would cause so much uncertainty that it would almost certainly result in one of us casting a misslynch vote and the scum winning.

The other scenario is Pyo is scum, fake claimed, and then immediately took back his fake claim after the night. Again the key here is to force uncertainty. He knew that this would place me on the chopping blocks. But why would a mafia who is so far ahead risk it?

Well because they were afraid of their fearless leader Drazerk getting lynched, which, would DEFINITELY had happened had Pyo's claim and a repeated RB on me not taken place.

It's town 101 to never lie, so it is either a HORRIBLE play by pyo, or great play by mafia, but either we lose.

If there is a real DT, they need to claim or Drazerk and supersoft will win the game tonight.




And think this really did it for me. Alderan went out of his way to distance, "fearless leader Drazerk" in his final post has me convinced you are scum. What really intrigues me is how you managed to stay out of being lynched for so long when you're obviously scum The cases have been made, the evidence has been presented, your distracting/confusing actions/posts were there.. yet it seemed we lynched everyone but the obvious. I have nothing more to say.

##vote: Drazerk




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On June 24 2011 07:00 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
On June 24 2011 06:53 Treadmill wrote:
On June 24 2011 06:51 Drazerk wrote:
Basically for this one day Alderan is a higher priority than me

So put the fingers down and trust me We have a lot of evidence pointing to him being scum and we must all vote for him

Mafia will be saying a lot of things in the next day as they screwed up last night, We must keep the focus on Alderan

Drazerk, please stop martyring. You have around 30 posts or so in this thread saying "oh, town is just gonna lynch me". They don't help town and only make you look scummier.


I am no longer Martyring we now no I am an easy scum target and that is what they will focus on

I am next on line and we can abuse this after seeing the out come of today


See this is a huge problem with newbie players. You can't explain the trap and have it work. Hold your f**king tongue (or keyboard). Rather than being quick to point everything out as you see it as soon as you see it, think about what you are doing and what it means. Then after someone has fallen for it, go ahead and point it out.



Still possibly worked

But we need to all vote unanimously at the moment votes would be spread - Drazerk, Supersoft and Freeloader (aka Mafia win)

I am going to hold my vote for now but we don't have an easy Mafia target like yesterday.

Freeloader if you are town we CANNOT be voting for different people so I encourage you to change it or you will have lost us the game.

If you don't change it your pretty much scum leading them into a easy win

Good grief, Drazerk. Its posts like this that made me think you scum in the first place. You're right, we need to build a consensus. You know what that requires? Voting. At this point in the game, delaying your vote will only help the mafia game the system.
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On June 27 2011 19:24 supersoft wrote:
Yes of course. Lynch me for no reason. This will win us the game for sure. Just reread day one, when you all voted on gtrsrs. I was the only one who put in some effort and read his postings. All of you were just bandwagoning around blindly. We can't afford another mislynch.

luckily I have a much better plan that lynching me and losing:

Look at Alderans post. He wanted someone to claim DT. That means, that there must be a mafioso left, who could claim DT for him! Unfortunately for him, their plan was revealed. What happened now? obviously they abandoned their plan, because noone claimed!
But let's have a look who didn't post/claimed something up to this point: Freeloader and CjrNinja. We have a 50/50 chance by now to get one of them now for sure!

Since you guys probably don't trust me and think that I am mafia, I stop now with my analysis. Because if I were mafia I'd probably suggest the townie out of these two. I let you decide who to lynch out of these two

+ Show Spoiler +

(I am not mafia and I really don't want to lose, I recommend CrjNinja - He is lurking all the time and bandwagoning. Very passive player, would have been a perfect blue. Now we know there isn't another blue, that points towards red! freeloader on the other hand is one of the more active players in here. But I think his fast vote on Drazerk this day wasn't thought out too well, not really protown, too)

So we are all morons because we band-wagonned gtrsrs, whereas you have the distinction, night one, of having.... bandwagonned Aprudds? Um. Right.'
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On June 24 2011 08:25 Alderan wrote:
Its laughable......

Phenomenal play by mafia, for what its worth, I was RB'd again, but it doesn't matter, this is surely my death sentence and mafia will have won the game.

There are 2 scenarios to how this happened.

Pyo thought he was saving the game by false claiming DT, but it was way to obvious, mafia picked up on it and risked getting DT checked to have a sure fire scape goat, in me. They only need one vote, so even if a DT claimed now to save me it would cause so much uncertainty that it would almost certainly result in one of us casting a misslynch vote and the scum winning.

The other scenario is Pyo is scum, fake claimed, and then immediately took back his fake claim after the night. Again the key here is to force uncertainty. He knew that this would place me on the chopping blocks. But why would a mafia who is so far ahead risk it?

Well because they were afraid of their fearless leader Drazerk getting lynched, which, would DEFINITELY had happened had Pyo's claim and a repeated RB on me not taken place.

It's town 101 to never lie, so it is either a HORRIBLE play by pyo, or great play by mafia, but either we lose.

If there is a real DT, they need to claim or Drazerk and supersoft will win the game tonight.




Alderan was not looking for someone to claim DT. He was clearly scum, and knew he was being bussed (it was 100% clear that he was scum here, in retrospect - had he actually been role-blocked he would have been certain there was a DT, not wishy-washy). Had the mafia, as you propose, planned for one of them to claim DT at this point Alderan's point would have been much more certain in that direction. Also it would have happened before he posted this.

You're really grasping at straws here. I just went from maybe 90% sure on you to 95%.

Thanks for the words about Cjr. Helps point the way to the third member of your club.


if you read my posts, you would see that I only tried to save our medic.
You only contributed by proposing a ridiculous plan right at the start of the game!

Drazerk you have to trust me. I am town. I don't think you are scum. CrjNinja most likely is scum! his buddy is treadmill or freeloader. I don't know. but we have to get scum today. Help me

##unvote

##vote: CrjNinja
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 17:45 GMT
#576
On June 28 2011 02:19 Drazerk wrote:
At the moment all our votes are spread which is exactly what they want

+ Show Spoiler +

Supersoft : 2

Drazerk
Treadmill

Drazerk : 1

Freeloader

CrjNinja : 1

Super soft


Guys unless we actually focus someone down we lose ... no Ifs or buts

Free loader your vote is pointless at the moment and carries no weight change it or your Mafia scum

Also Ninja don't think we have not forgotten about you... If I don't hear something from you soon I will also hunt you down


Yeah, do you want to contribute and analyze something or do you keep making completely useless posts. Everyone knows the votecounts so far. There are 5 players left. It's not that difficult.
And excuse me for spreading my vote. You may understand, that I don't vote against myself.

I'd appreciate your point of view on the whole thing. Do you agree with me? if you disagree, why?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 17:50 GMT
#577
Do you guys realize, that if we don't talk with each other this game is completely random?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 19:33 GMT
#579
okay perfect. Drazerk I trust you. But revengevoting isn't key to victory. Let's have a look at the possibilities:

supersoft, drazerk, treadmill VS. freeloader, crjninja

or

supersoft, drazerk, freeloader VS. treadmill, crjninja

These two set-ups are in my opinion the most reasonable set-ups. Treadmill had a slight relation to crjninja at day1.

supersoft, drazerk, crjninja VS. freeloader, treadmill

This set-up is very unlikely the real set-up, I read through the whole thread and there is no connection between these two guys... They also don't agree today and i'd have been easy for them to get one of us lynched if they would have been working together.

Because of this and my explanation before, I am convinced that crjninja is scum and the perfect lynch for today.
if we are lucky, we may see something out of the votingbehavior of the other two fellows, to seal the deal.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 19:40 GMT
#580
omg, we only have 3 hours left. guys?!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 19:43 GMT
#581
ah, okay, we have 27 hours left. My fault sorry. I confused the day and the nightpost at the beginning of the page... I am writing/reading this from my iphone...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 23:42 GMT
#590
i already posted my reason for cjrninja instead of freeloader. You don't trust me, treadmill and I don't trust you.

and yes, cjrninja comes out of lurking, but he doesn't give us anything. He doesn't defend himself and he doesn't post any reasons for his actions. He just accuses people, that were accused before. He even doesn't vote.

my vote stays on him.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 23:49 GMT
#593
On June 28 2011 08:47 CjrNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 08:42 supersoft wrote:
i already posted my reason for cjrninja instead of freeloader. You don't trust me, treadmill and I don't trust you.

and yes, cjrninja comes out of lurking, but he doesn't give us anything. He doesn't defend himself and he doesn't post any reasons for his actions. He just accuses people, that were accused before. He even doesn't vote.

my vote stays on him.


Feel free to point out 'my actions'. All I see from your accusations is that I've been lurking.


read the thread.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 27 2011 23:50 GMT
#594
On June 27 2011 19:24 supersoft wrote:
Yes of course. Lynch me for no reason. This will win us the game for sure. Just reread day one, when you all voted on gtrsrs. I was the only one who put in some effort and read his postings. All of you were just bandwagoning around blindly. We can't afford another mislynch.

luckily I have a much better plan that lynching me and losing:

Look at Alderans post. He wanted someone to claim DT. That means, that there must be a mafioso left, who could claim DT for him! Unfortunately for him, their plan was revealed. What happened now? obviously they abandoned their plan, because noone claimed!
But let's have a look who didn't post/claimed something up to this point: Freeloader and CjrNinja. We have a 50/50 chance by now to get one of them now for sure!

Since you guys probably don't trust me and think that I am mafia, I stop now with my analysis. Because if I were mafia I'd probably suggest the townie out of these two. I let you decide who to lynch out of these two

+ Show Spoiler +

(I am not mafia and I really don't want to lose, I recommend CrjNinja - He is lurking all the time and bandwagoning. Very passive player, would have been a perfect blue. Now we know there isn't another blue, that points towards red! freeloader on the other hand is one of the more active players in here. But I think his fast vote on Drazerk this day wasn't thought out too well, not really protown, too)


this.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 28 2011 21:02 GMT
#602
muhahahahaha
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 28 2011 21:07 GMT
#604
oh lord this was so tense!!! damn!! GG
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 28 2011 22:22 GMT
#611
i knew that you were lying... I posted it in the mafiaforum way before gtrsrs did :D
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