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United States22154 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:24 Karshe wrote:
Cthsazsa couldn't be a SK, right?
The only thing I found odd was the night he chose GMarshal, before Cthsazsa was even dead. And there were two nights in a row where Amber protected GM.
I'd give you my thoughts, but since I apparently can't win anymore I have no interest in helping.
You fuck me over, then I'll make sure you get the same back.
I'm going to laugh and laugh at Palmar when the serial killer/mafia wins.
You DO NOT lynch townies who are obviously not scum, but obviously that basic tenet of town play hasn't been absorbed yet.
I'm sure that this spectacular loss will make it something to be remembered.
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EBWOP: Also, Cthsazsa is not following Palmar's plan.
Ok, leaving for real now, I'm late.
GM, you're either taking this game way too personally, or putting on quite a masterful performance.
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United States22154 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:32 Karshe wrote:
EBWOP: Also, Cthsazsa is not following Palmar's plan.
Ok, leaving for real now, I'm late.
GM, you're either taking this game way too personally, or putting on quite a masterful performance.
Of course I'm fucking taking it personally. I've read the thread over 6 times, all 170 pages of it. I've solved the game and played more pro-town than ever.
And in repayment you guys are going to throw it all away. If thats what you want to do, than fine. But dont expect me to take it laying down.
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Iceland22632 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:10 Cthsazsa wrote:Wtf. If you think he is scum, why are you apologizing? In fact, why are you voting for him Karshe? Palmar if you think GM is anti-town, why are you telling us what we should be doing tonight? Why are you guys lynching him "just cause" or because "we have to make sure we're safe"? From what it looks like you're not even sure if he's the right lynch. If we followed the other plan this wouldn't have to happen -_____- 1) Lynch Steff 2) Shoot Karshe 3) Lynch GM 4) Shoot me 5) I take Rean with me That would leave you, Palmar, as the last man standing.
you're forgetting the mafia kp.
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Iceland22632 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:28 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 03:24 Karshe wrote:
Cthsazsa couldn't be a SK, right?
The only thing I found odd was the night he chose GMarshal, before Cthsazsa was even dead. And there were two nights in a row where Amber protected GM. I'd give you my thoughts, but since I apparently can't win anymore I have no interest in helping. You fuck me over, then I'll make sure you get the same back. I'm going to laugh and laugh at Palmar when the serial killer/mafia wins. You DO NOT lynch townies who are obviously not scum, but obviously that basic tenet of town play hasn't been absorbed yet. I'm sure that this spectacular loss will make it something to be remembered.
yeah whatever.
I know I'm bad at this, so what did you expect? I don't think you're obviously town, I think you're scum or 3rd party.
But hey! I'm terrible at this game, why should people listen to me.
If the TL town can't deal with one bad player, then either the games are imbalanced, or they're just not very good. I can't do analysis, and most of my gutshots are wrong, deal with it, or ban me from future games here on TL.
Not that it's likely I'll be playing more.
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Iceland22632 Posts
And since this is probably the last game I'm playing here I'm just going to say straight out, the people that ragequit this game, mostly because of me, are fucking idiots and probably the biggest reason I'm not here to stay.
Whatever, I'll be around to cast votes and night actions, not posting anymore.
See you.
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On June 19 2011 03:02 GMarshal wrote:
Thanks for fucking over my wincondition after I made sure you had the game in the bag. Way to reward my analysis and activity.
I *really* appreciate it.
Don't bother apologizing, next time I'll leave you idiots to keep shooting into the town and killing each other.
Oh, and for the record, I'm not only town, but I also know that theres a mafia and a serial killer left. I should thank Barundar for crumbing that, I wouldn't have realized in time. Now my trap is out the window.
And after killing me, we lose for sure.
Which is what you morons have earned.
Right, and despite you knowing there is atleast a mafia and a serial killer left you don't say anything about it until you're almost dead. Try bullshitting harder please.
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##Fistpound Palmar
I agree, there were some bm  kinda ruins the fun!
I warn you town: you are beeing fooled to lynch me 
GG anyways!
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GMarshal the Mole has been lynched!
+ Show Spoiler +"You are the Cult Leader. Every night, you have the ability to induct a person of choice into your cult. You begin Day 1 with one other random person in your cult.
People in your cult have the ability to PM each other, and are informed of all other members in the cult.
You can also sacrifice a cult member at night instead of recruiting one. Cult members are not informed of this ability initially, but the day post will day 'XXX was sacrificed to the gods by a mysterious Cult Leader'"
Game over, town wins!
Role List and Action List
Awards and comments coming up soon.
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GAME OVER YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Thanks guys,though town sucked this game. I think there was no single strong analysis.
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GG
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GG all, gratz town
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Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol.
When I saw that day post I was just like... no way...
And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game  )
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On June 19 2011 06:07 Barundar wrote:Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol. When I saw that day post I was just like... no way... And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game )
The sinani206 shootage? I hoped he was scum and he'd revive Wiggles,LOL.
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On June 19 2011 06:14 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 06:07 Barundar wrote:Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol. When I saw that day post I was just like... no way... And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game ) The sinani206 shootage? I hoped he was scum and he'd revive Wiggles,LOL.
Insanity at it's finest 
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Awards:
Town MVP:
+ Show Spoiler +Joint win between Kurumi and No One.
Kurumi unintentially sealed the win for town by killing sinani and ressing Palmar. This gave town a confirmed, unkillable vig. Apart from that, town were fairly bad all game, no analysis was done. Roles won the game for them more than anything.
Honorable mention to:
-Sinani for ressing Palmar
-redFF for keeping the pressure on GMarshal
-Node for fingering 2 of the mafia 20 minutes into the game. Unfortunately one of the mafia gave him his KP role, so they took him out ASAP.
Mafia MVP:
+ Show Spoiler +GMarshal!
From swinging the vote to get Palmar lynched, to fighting all the way to the end, GMarshal performed great.
Town's Best Moment:
+ Show Spoiler +5/7 Lynches hit scum, not bad
Town's Worst Moment:
+ Show Spoiler +Quite a lot to choose from. Viscera Eyes taking out BC, lynching Palmar, several missed vig shots, no analysis. Not a good sample game to shown town doing well.
Mafia's Best Moment:
+ Show Spoiler +Getting Palmar lynched over bumatlarge. 100% confirmed scum vs town vig WHO HAD KILLED A MOLE!
Mafia's Worst Moment:
+ Show Spoiler +Mafia had the opportunity to lynch Palmar, Rean or Cthaza using Barundar's extra vote. Had they killed Cthaza, his ability would have killed Karshe as well, though they didn't know that. However, instead of getting Jackal's help they let him get lynched instead ultimately costing them the game.
Comments:
Overall, town won due to lack of millers/godfather in the game. This made Rean's listchecking overpowered. Also I fucked up and revealed bumatlarge by accident, which really didn't help.
Otherwise I feel the game was fairly balanced. There were a few passive roles that I didn't like as the players who got them really weren't able to involve themselves in the game much. These were roles like The Medium, The Barrista etc.
Mafia got quite unlucky with a few things, Wiggles setting off the alignment check, me revealing bum, amongst others.
Finally any comments and suggestions you guys have about the game I'd be glad to hear.
A special thank you to BrownBear and all the players. Without you, the game wouldn't be possible <3
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United States4714 Posts
GG guys. Valiant attempt GM, you almost managed to talk your way out of a confirmed vote check lol.
Don't quit palmar! You made a couple huge errors in shooting varp and chaos but you made the right decision when it really mattered and probably saved the town.
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GG ^^ When Palmar got lynched I gave up almost all hope (when town players start to claim 3rd party you know town's sucking badly), but atleast we managed to pull out a win in the end.
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Mafia had the opportunity to lynch Palmar, Rean or Cthaza using Barundar's extra vote. Had they killed Cthaza, his ability would have killed Karshe as well, though they didn't know that. However, instead of getting Jackal's help they let him get lynched instead ultimately costing them the game.
This was a pickle. We met on IRC, and I argued for killing Palmar with Jackal, and go into a shoot off end game, where we would rely on Jackal to win, but I would put our winning a chance to 50 % at best. I still think it was our best shot, but GM and DropBear however wanted to play on, so we went with majority decision + I was getting busy in RL so suited me fine to die
Setup wise I think you can never let mafia KP=town KP in a game as large as this from the beginning. Would need at least 2 night KP, possible three, depending on the strength of the mafia roles. We lost the game because town had twice our KP in the end game.
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United States22154 Posts
Sorry I was so abrasive palmar, It was all an act. I was trying really hard to get someone to switch the vote off of me.
Again, really, really sorry if I offended you by calling you bad, you didn't play that terrible at all, I just desperately needed to make you doubt yourself.
If you are pissed at me feel free to lambast me in PM's I had no intention of making you feel bad :/
If you quit because of me I'll be sad, I'm sorry ;_;
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