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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 03:37 Palmar wrote: how about lynching cthzasza to remove his kp, then i shoot steff. i have better town read on karshe than cth. We can do that if you really want, but I'm almost 100% convinced cthzasza is town. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
i think you are the remaining mafia, i think you have a knife left, you only used one to kill kurumi, the other is the still missing mafia kp from day 3 or something. even if im wrong, then im sorry, but my win is more important than your win. you played well, any side you flip as was lucky to have you. town, lynch gm | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
also, writing from my phone, so thats why my posts lack caps and formatting | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 03:58 Palmar wrote: damn gm, you are good at this game. i think you are the remaining mafia, i think you have a knife left, you only used one to kill kurumi, the other is the still missing mafia kp from day 3 or something. even if im wrong, then im sorry, but my win is more important than your win. you played well, any side you flip as was lucky to have you. town, lynch gm Go through the day posts, its 100% clear that the cultist leader used two sacrifices. It appears in the day post so theres no way I'm lying. Don't fuck over my win condition. I can't kill anyone. Come on, I *almost* have a win in the bag for us. It all adds up. Again, worst comes to worst you lynch me tomorrow. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
it dont matter though, i am sorry if you're telling the truth. this isnt done out of spite, or anything like that. i have tons of respect for you, but this is a game and i want to win, so ill do whatever i think is best for town. im putting my faith in rean being town, and my entire revision of your plan is created around this. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 04:21 Palmar wrote: yep, you're right, sorry. it dont matter though, i am sorry if you're telling the truth. this isnt done out of spite, or anything like that. i have tons of respect for you, but this is a game and i want to win, so ill do whatever i think is best for town. im putting my faith in rean being town, and my entire revision of your plan is created around this. Sure Rean is town. Town =/= right. If he is town then he is getting shot tonight, because the mafia can't afford confirmed townies. Again, I don't see the issue with letting me live another night, and if we haven't won, lynching me tomorrow. Seriously, I've played super town this entire game. All I need is to make it to tomorrow, and we win, come on rean and palmar, don't make me fucking lose ;_; | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
but again, i want to win. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 04:38 Palmar wrote: i feel sorry for you, whoever created your cultist miller survivor role basically made sure youd lose this game. but again, i want to win. And you will. Changing the order of the kills dosn't change anything except letting me win. Come ON! You *know* I'm town, I've done nothing but contribute (bar day 1 and 2, sorry about that). There is no case, I don't understand why you won't just agree to kill me last. I have no tricks up my sleeve, no aces left. I can only win if you let me. Point out a single anti-town action from me, a single post pushing scummy objectives. My posts weep of being green, and still you want to kill me for some undefined reason. I have no KP, and nothing I can do to hurt the town. Why? I still don't understand why rean's alignment is relevant btw, my whole plan was drafted around him being town and getting shot tonight, which is what is going to happen with 90% probability. I can win with you guys, I've been trying to all game long, and the possibility is right there within my grasp. Town is going to win no matter what, why do you want to steal my join victory.... *sigh* ;_; | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
More specifically, could serial killers shoot and use their role ability in the same night and could a lone mafia use the KP mafia has and use his ability in the same night? I'm talking active ability's here (like for example inspecting someone's alignment). | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 18 2011 05:31 GMarshal wrote: And you will. Changing the order of the kills dosn't change anything except letting me win. Come ON! You *know* I'm town, I've done nothing but contribute (bar day 1 and 2, sorry about that). There is no case, I don't understand why you won't just agree to kill me last. I have no tricks up my sleeve, no aces left. I can only win if you let me. Point out a single anti-town action from me, a single post pushing scummy objectives. My posts weep of being green, and still you want to kill me for some undefined reason. I have no KP, and nothing I can do to hurt the town. Why? I still don't understand why rean's alignment is relevant btw, my whole plan was drafted around him being town and getting shot tonight, which is what is going to happen with 90% probability. I can win with you guys, I've been trying to all game long, and the possibility is right there within my grasp. Town is going to win no matter what, why do you want to steal my join victory.... *sigh* ;_; explain how I know you're town. you know redff1s' investigative ability has a 25% chance of failing. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 05:46 Palmar wrote: explain how I know you're town. you know redff1s' investigative ability has a 25% chance of failing. Judge me by my actions. I've killed two mafia and two serial killers. I've pushed those I deemed scum, with arguments, logic and analysis. You can't come up with a single scummy post of mine, or prove, even to yourself that I am scum. Yet you still want to lynch me. We kill who we think to be scum here, period, we don't kill people who are likely town to "reduce risk" especially when that risk is fictitious. Also, I hadn't actually read that last part about redFF's power in the day post. I wasn't aware of that, so I suppose it still lends your arguments *some* credence. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Rean and I are town Cthzasza is neutralized because he can't die if he's mafia, and if he uses his ability it can be controlled. Also, you say you have a town read on him, so do I. I value your opinions GM, you're good at this. That leaves: Karshe, Steff and You. One must be lynched, one must be shot, and one must be targeted by Cth. So, we lynch the one that is the most likely to cause any shenanigans. We know for a fact that even if Karshe has bombs left, we will get information on that in the day post, and simply be able to lynch him, leaving one town alive. This means Karshe does not need to die before the next day cycle, so he will be the target of Cth's death vig shot. So that leaves you and Steff. One must be shot, the other lynched. Steff has never caused any shenanigans all game. We know you have a complicated role and a 25% chance of a wrong report from redFF. I simply believe that between the two of you, Steff is less likely to have anything up his sleeve. I would shoot you if I wasn't pushing for a lynch on you. The end result is always the same. Either we have me and Rean alive tomorrow, or we have me and cth. if it's me and rean, we lynch the third guy, if it's me and cth, we lynch cth and he bombs the person that isn't me. So yeah, this is why I want you dead, sorry. I'd shoot you in the night anyway, it must be done. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 18 2011 03:10 Rean wrote: Does anyone know if stefftastiq's role has been full-claimed and if the creator of steff's role claimed aswell? No, his role hasn't been fully claimed. That's the thing, steff hasn't done anything this whole game. He's managed to lurklurklurk and avoid all of our attention. Lynch steff, shoot Karhse. If we still haven't won then lynch me and I'll take GM down. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 18 2011 06:17 Cthsazsa wrote: No, his role hasn't been fully claimed. That's the thing, steff hasn't done anything this whole game. He's managed to lurklurklurk and avoid all of our attention. Lynch steff, shoot Karhse. If we still haven't won then lynch me and I'll take GM down. Read my post above. We _can_ switch steff and GM But the rest remains the same. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
We don't even know steff's role. No one has checked him and no one has claimed it. How do you know he dosn't have a gun. I don't have any shennanigans to pull and you know it. You just want me dead. I can accept that, but don't hide it under "oh its the best play". It isn't it makes not one whit of difference what order we do it in. You are ignoring a second major fact. How do you know its *mafia* we are dealing with. What if whats left is a serial killer. A list checking serial killer. I doubt it is, but it will be interesting to see what happens if Rean dosn't die tonight, no? Sure, cth is clear and so are you and lets accept that rean is. How do you know karshe dosn't have a hand grenade as part of his role? How do you know steff dosn't have a mindblast that can kill a player? You don't, you are just deadset on killing me. Of the three, I'm the only one who's role is actually fully disclosed, and confirmed by an outside source. Yet I'm the most likely to pull shennanigans? Once again, you have no real reason to kill me. Or at least no logical reason to. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 18 2011 06:21 GMarshal wrote: You are costing me the game. We don't even know steff's role. No one has checked him and no one has claimed it. How do you know he dosn't have a gun. I don't have any shennanigans to pull and you know it. You just want me dead. I can accept that, but don't hide it under "oh its the best play". It isn't it makes not one whit of difference what order we do it in. You are ignoring a second major fact. How do you know its *mafia* we are dealing with. What if whats left is a serial killer. A list checking serial killer. I doubt it is, but it will be interesting to see what happens if Rean dosn't die tonight, no? Sure, cth is clear and so are you and lets accept that rean is. How do you know karshe dosn't have a hand grenade as part of his role? How do you know steff dosn't have a mindblast that can kill a player? You don't, you are just deadset on killing me. Of the three, I'm the only one who's role is actually fully disclosed, and confirmed by an outside source. Yet I'm the most likely to pull shennanigans? Once again, you have no real reason to kill me. Or at least no logical reason to. I have given the idea Rean is mafia a thought, I have a simple picture guide on my actions if this happens. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CDFIq.jpg) And no, I don't want to "just kill you". Once again, trust that I have great respect for you as player. So much that I find it more likely that you can pull shit like this off than Steff. But we have to either shoot or lynch you, or that is my opinion. I really don't want to fail town again. If Rean comes in and tells me I'm an idiot, I can change my mind. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Seriously though, my role is the only semiconfirmed of the three, and I'm out of kills. You should absolutely be killing me *last* either way, I'll wait until Rean pops by and sees my logic. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 18 2011 06:38 GMarshal wrote: Also, I never said "mafia" I said serial killer, which is a bird of a different color. But I digress, I *really* doubt rean is anything but green yeah, I wasn't going to draw up "mafia, or sk, or something else anti town". But you get the point. I've commited to that read, and I'm sticking to it, cause no one has told me I'm an idiot for it. I kinda rely on people telling me I'm an idiot. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 18 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote: yeah, I wasn't going to draw up "mafia, or sk, or something else anti town". But you get the point. I've commited to that read, and I'm sticking to it, cause no one has told me I'm an idiot for it. I kinda rely on people telling me I'm an idiot. Oh, is that all you need? You are an idiot then, vote for someone else!  did it work? | ||
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