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On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?
Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow.
I noticed it too but before that I wanted to ask. Before you said you saw something that made you unvote incognito. But then you voted him again. Want to share what it was or is it a need to know basis?
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So, if the Journalist causes the Editor to make a post - the Editor can just edit the post out right?
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On May 17 2011 10:44 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?
Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow. I noticed it too but before that I wanted to ask. Before you said you saw something that made you unvote incognito. But then you voted him again. Want to share what it was or is it a need to know basis?
Kavdragon's posts. Seemed like more bs to me so I was deciding on which one of them I wanted to spend my next nap dreaming about.
Then a host of other people started pointing fingers so I decided to go back to the #1 finger pointer himself.
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On May 17 2011 10:46 Chezinu wrote:
So, if the Journalist causes the Editor to make a post - the Editor can just edit the post out right?
Yes correct
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On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above
He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.
Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.
What if mafia has the journalist and made deconduo make this post in order to hint him that he is the mole? But then the mafia wouldn't want him to die... so if this is mafia journalism, I highly doubt they would treate their mole this way. That would just be way too cruel. So, if any mafia that has journalist role want to give me a hint that I'm a mole, go right ahead, but don't get me killed.. I gotz to know! If I'm not the mole and you are thinking about killing me -- its ok not to kill me -- some say I'm pretty useless...To townies who read this, don't lynch me, i am very skillful and am not useless -- whatever that really means... Mafia, I'm not that skillful...not skillful enough that you want to kill me...But town, I'm skillful enough to keep around...Plus, I can entertain both you mafia and town! So you both want to keep me around! k thnks
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On May 17 2011 10:47 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 10:44 chaoser wrote:On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?
Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow. I noticed it too but before that I wanted to ask. Before you said you saw something that made you unvote incognito. But then you voted him again. Want to share what it was or is it a need to know basis? Kavdragon's posts. Seemed like more bs to me so I was deciding on which one of them I wanted to spend my next nap dreaming about. Then a host of other people started pointing fingers so I decided to go back to the #1 finger pointer himself.
I was going to go to his cave tonight and see if I could have his treasure... seems most people overlooked my post about that..
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I lost my post in the power outage today, though at this point it doesn't really matter. We'll come back to numbers and the draft order after the first round of deaths have gone through.
A couple things to note right now. Unlike in TL Mafia XXXI, the Village Idiot does not end the game when lynched. The journalist power can also only be used once per cycle. So deconduo is pretty much being useless right now. Check him or shoot him at night if you're not going to lynch him now. Or lynch him--who cares?
Also, I'm so glad nukes are public. Let me prove I'm not America.
##Nuke: infinitestory
When no nuke kills my fellow staff member at the end of the day, we'll all be happy. Actually, that's not true. If somebody hypothetically had actually chosen America, they could launch the same nuke. Good luck with that, though--I can check and then shoot anybody foolish enough to do that in the following nights.
Now just let me do my thing and check, protect, and/or shoot people at night.
And I'm wondering if Ace and I noticed the same thing.
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flame I was totally about to type ##Nuke... but then I read that your hypothetical... So I will let you get the credit of ending the the never ending story.
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On May 17 2011 11:05 flamewheel wrote:
I lost my post in the power outage today, though at this point it doesn't really matter. We'll come back to numbers and the draft order after the first round of deaths have gone through.
A couple things to note right now. Unlike in TL Mafia XXXI, the Village Idiot does not end the game when lynched. The journalist power can also only be used once per cycle. So deconduo is pretty much being useless right now. Check him or shoot him at night if you're not going to lynch him now. Or lynch him--who cares?
Also, I'm so glad nukes are public. Let me prove I'm not America.
##Nuke: infinitestory
When no nuke kills my fellow staff member at the end of the day, we'll all be happy. Actually, that's not true. If somebody hypothetically had actually chosen America, they could launch the same nuke. Good luck with that, though--I can check and then shoot anybody foolish enough to do that in the following nights.
Now just let me do my thing and check, protect, and/or shoot people at night.
And I'm wondering if Ace and I noticed the same thing.
:O
If someone else tries to nuke me, they'll have to type it in anyway >_>
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On May 17 2011 10:31 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, decon just made himself the perfect placeholder vote candidate. Or maybe even a good lynch candidate! :D
You need to post more gems like this.
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Wait, why are people actually voting for deconduo? Mafia don't invite you to lynch them; they try to get you to lynch other people. I definitely agree that we should just ignore him for now.
Also, I don't understand the case against Incognito either. Foolishness voted to lynch him because he wasn't being aggressive enough, but at least he had a reason, however shaky it seems; Incognito isn't playing the same as he did in one game when he was town. Now Ace seems to be voting for Incognito because he was being too aggressive and pointed a finger at someone. I may be missing something, but I don't see how merely being the first to accuse someone qualifies you as Mafia. Ace isn't even criticizing his idea of using rigged votes and votechecks or otherwise using heated, fervent arguments showing how Incognito's actions have been "total bullshit." He just became another finger-pointer based off one post, much like the people he was denigrating earlier.
For myself, I still don't know yet who I'm planning to vote for, though I'm leaning towards Scamp. His posts all gave me an impression of evasiveness, though I'll have to reread them again and see if they're more substantial than I thought.
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one post? You know he accused like 4 people right?
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Um, town don't invite you to lynch them either. And actually getting you to lynch other people is more town than mafia, IMO. Anyone can argue that they're not mafia. It's much harder to fake a case on someone else, and it's way more useful to town if you're actually not faking.
While my posts haven't exactly been substantial I certainly wouldn't classify them as evasive.
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On May 17 2011 11:42 dreamflower wrote:
Also, I don't understand the case against Incognito either. Foolishness voted to lynch him because he wasn't being aggressive enough, but at least he had a reason, however shaky it seems; Incognito isn't playing the same as he did in one game when he was town. Now Ace seems to be voting for Incognito because he was being too aggressive and pointed a finger at someone. I may be missing something, but I don't see how merely being the first to accuse someone qualifies you as Mafia. Ace isn't even criticizing his idea of using rigged votes and votechecks or otherwise using heated, fervent arguments showing how Incognito's actions have been "total bullshit." He just became another finger-pointer based off one post, much like the people he was denigrating earlier.
Not just one post. Incognito's made a good number of odd posts:
1) He mentioned specifically that he didn't have enough time to get deeply involved in the game, and yet
2) He seems to be doing enough analysis to accuse KillerSOS out of nowhere, ask for a hit on GMarshal, then vote Kurumi without any logic (and change to Chaoser based on some logic)
3) He doesn't back up his accusation on KillerSOS at all. This is like, 48 hours ago or something like that.
4) He asks Flamewheel to nuke GMarshal, and FW is pretty confident that he's not America.
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On May 17 2011 10:47 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 10:44 chaoser wrote:On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?
Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow. I noticed it too but before that I wanted to ask. Before you said you saw something that made you unvote incognito. But then you voted him again. Want to share what it was or is it a need to know basis? Kavdragon's posts. Seemed like more bs to me so I was deciding on which one of them I wanted to spend my next nap dreaming about. Then a host of other people started pointing fingers so I decided to go back to the #1 finger pointer himself.
Um...Duh? As I've said before, it's day one, and reads are pretty sketchy because of the lack of information. I'll say it again: The best way to get information is to pressure people and look at the response. Any pushes at this point are obviously going to be pressure, not actual attempts to get someone lynched. (Well. Depending on the response...)
Look at my posting: that's pretty much all I've done, from my very first post (pressuring Node) to now, pressuring caller and Wiggles. I have a scum read on you too, but I don't trust myself to make anything close to an accurate read on you (especially since I automatically associate you with scum) so I'm leaving you alone.
In general i think that only mafia have something to fear from people applying pressure, as townies will be judged by their reactions. Incog telling pointing fingers and telling FW to nuke is exactly the sort of thing that generates discussion and information on people. For instance, if me and incog start pressuring a townie (esspecially if there's not a much of a reason to) and someone else jumps on, then you've just got your self someone who's looking awfully scummy.
This tactic has been used by skilled players to great effect so don't tell me it doesn't work.
Also, what you said about putting on scum goggles is a very real danger, but it's something that I've been accepting full knowing because again, it's not about making a real case, it's about pressure. If that requires me to purposefully misinterpret posts, then I'll do it.
Of course now that you've made me say this my pressure will be less effective...
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On May 17 2011 12:29 Kavdragon wrote:
In general i think that only mafia have something to fear from people applying pressure, as townies will be judged by their reactions. Incog telling pointing fingers and telling FW to nuke is exactly the sort of thing that generates discussion and information on people.
do you realize that there is no way Incog could have known Flamewheel had America unless they were communicating outside of thread, + it looks like Incog is even wrong about it. That's not generating discussion, that's just distracting people, fishing for a claim, putting unreasonable suspicion on fw, etc.
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On May 17 2011 12:33 citi.zen wrote:
Hi! Enjoying the show, I presume?
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