Pick Your Power Insane! - Page 104

On May 30 2011 09:32 deconduo wrote:
Lots of credit for the Police Radio invention, really well thought out.

On May 29 2011 22:43 Ace wrote:


The chaoser, Barundar and KillerSOS wagons were all so damn ridiculous and they weren't even scum driven. I didn't even VOTE on the Kav wagon and it still happened to my amazement. But Kav made many mistakes. Somehow, some way even with the Kav/Barundar/Incog wagons going on no one sat down and looked back at how they were formed. The only person to bring it up later was Incognito iirc when he said I was pushing the wagon and then didn't even vote for Kav while also undermining him.

Of course it got ignored.

On May 25 2011 10:07 bumatlarge wrote:

Bum was having his usual identity crysis, which isn't a far cry from his call of duty for tonight. Rest assured, there was no halo above his head.

On May 30 2011 09:32 deconduo wrote:
Lots of credit for the Police Radio invention, really well thought out.

On May 30 2011 23:27 Scamp wrote:
I personally would like to see Traitor and Village Idiot taken out, and all roles similar to that. I found it interesting that the game was balanced around the expectation of a traitor being taken, especially with moles active. If you took Traitor and you were a mole all along....well don't you feel silly?

I guess you at least show up as townie for role checks, but still...

But yeah, Villlage Idiot is just dumb. At least make it interesting in some way such as you need to predict when you'll die or some kind of restrictions of playstyle or whatever.

Maybe a mafia game where it turns out everyone on the mafia team is a mole.

On May 30 2011 23:27 Scamp wrote:
I personally would like to see Traitor and Village Idiot taken out, and all roles similar to that. I found it interesting that the game was balanced around the expectation of a traitor being taken, especially with moles active. If you took Traitor and you were a mole all along....well don't you feel silly?

I guess you at least show up as townie for role checks, but still...

But yeah, Villlage Idiot is just dumb. At least make it interesting in some way such as you need to predict when you'll die or some kind of restrictions of playstyle or whatever.

Maybe a mafia game where it turns out everyone on the mafia team is a mole.

On May 25 2011 10:07 bumatlarge wrote:
Twas the night before Christmas, and I am the night.



Bum was having his usual identity crysis, which isn't a far cry from his call of duty for tonight. Rest assured, there was no halo above his head.

Bum had a list, which he checked frequently, not really to see who was naughty or not, but because he kept forgetting exactly who was on it. Incognito was a fine gentleman, but unfortunately the adjacent name, Ace, was not so well-behaved. It is obvious that Ace's misdemeanor triggered this quest. The three others on the list were oddly selected, almost random suspects to give bum options. Mr. Wiggles, Kurumi, Kitaman. It was a shame that Kuremo cut himself, and in doing so cut the blue wire in his wrist, killing two other townies. He would have been a nice person to kill. Bum thought very hard about his responsibility. Very hard, in fact, he still had not made a decision, til this very moment.

Bum waited until midnight for him to climb up a roof and knock over a few light infested gutters to reach a chimney. Being half starved, he hopped smoothly down the chimney, and using pure homeless powers, he glided safely, now hovering inches above the stone. Everyone knows bums can't walk on residential stonework. He stepped lightly onto the wood floor and walked up the stairs. On the wall was a picture of two-fAce, during a happier time. Bum continued his trek. The next picture had a picture of the Wiggler, in a nice green suit. What a funny guy. The last picture was of Katiman, bum's genderconfused callthing. Obviously the person living here knew them all. Bum's face grew heavy with each step, as he tossed this idea through his head like an unpinned grenade. At the door of the bedroom he pushed it open gently, and walked through. His movement's hinted at the task at hand, but his eyes betrayed his thoughts. Luckily it was too dark to see. He stood over the bed, pulled out an object of undetermined lethality, and pulled back the sheets.

On May 31 2011 09:00 Radfield wrote:
Ver, were you planning on doing a little write-up on this game? I'm always interested in hearing what you have to say.

Also, fantastic job modding the game. It's always a pleasure having a great host.

On June 01 2011 07:14 Ace wrote:
Actually no, never saw that movie before.

On June 11 2011 09:32 Radfield wrote:


I think it's hard when you're actually playing in a game to be able to look back and find the learning points. Each player is naturally biased to his own perception of how things went down, and it really takes an outsider (or a very experienced player) to actually break down what went on in the game, and where the improvement can take place. In PYPI I can see how the game played out, and see some of the mistakes(or good plays) that I and other players made, but I think it's hard to really take concrete lessons away from a game without talking it out with someone.



This is absolutely what we need. Perhaps a dedicated thread after each game breaking down the townie play(since this is what we need to improve). Mind you, this is a boatload of work, and would really take someone following the game and willing to make contributions. In PYPI I think town had some real strong points. There was little spam, plenty of townies were contributing their thoughts/ideas that it made it easy to find fairly solid townies, town stayed fairly focused and on task, and didn't get sidetracked. That being said, the sheer volume of list-checks and dt checks meant that very little meaningful scum hunting had to be done. A godfather role or a framing role would have likely had us floundering, instead of cruising to a relatively easy win.

To be clear, I completely agree that more discussion is needed at the end of the game to bring out certain talking points, hopefully with constructive criticism for specific players within the game. I enjoy constructive criticism and think it's extremely beneficial. Some of the mistakes I made during this game:

* The push for Barundar: I honestly thought this was a good Day 1 lynch, as he fit pretty much all the criteria I was looking for. Where did I go wrong? Obviously after the lynch results came in I quickly deduced that Barundar had to be town, but he easily could have been lynched due to my faulty accusation.

* Not backing Incog more: this was just silliness. I had a strong pro-town read, but had too much respect for Incogs play to be able to fully back him. Ace had successfully turned the thread, and I didn't think I could un-turn it. No need for advice here, I know where I failed and how to remedy it.

* Failing at convincing the other players GM was the mole. Yes GM was lynched, but I was as sure as I ever get that GM was the mole, yet barely got him lynched. Where did I go wrong in building my case against him? As far as I could tell it was a slam dunk, but none of the other players seemed to be swayed(other than kita, who was swayed possibly for other reasons). I did miss the Chaoser flip-flop(which was key) but the rest of my case was strong in my eyes. Did I argue too much with him, thus burying the key evidence? Did I not defend myself well enough against GM's counter attacks? Why were the other players unconvinced?

Anyways, these are the things I think about at the end of games, and think we as a group should be talking about. I'm sure we can all see where we went wrong, but not necessarily how to fix them.

On June 11 2011 17:57 Barundar wrote:
Really liking the write up Radfield, and I wish we could have more discussion about that game.

I think you picked up on my flawed goals. On the one hand I planned on getting killed ASAP to remove my role from the game, and on the other hand I was afraid of a scum copy cat picking up my role if I died early. Because of this my play was a little too general and wishy washy, which should get called out.

I still think I did pro town stuff (limit suspect list, call out Caller), but I don't think you where all wrong.

On June 13 2011 11:27 Ver wrote:
ok fine ill finish this in a jiffy.

dunno if I should post the ratings though lol.