EPTAmber is scum and I'm sure of it. I've posted an extended analysis on him, which you seem not to be bothered to read. His analysis on me has many lies and other reasons which make no sense at all. No townie would try to manipulate analysis to get someone lynched. That's the mafia objective. Most people who don't believe Amber is mafia are stuck on the idea that chaoser is mafia or I am mafia. So lynching either him or me is going to reveal the most mafia.
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Amber is scum and I'm sure of it. I've posted an extended analysis on him, which you seem not to be bothered to read. His analysis on me has many lies and other reasons which make no sense at all. No townie would try to manipulate analysis to get someone lynched. That's the mafia objective. Most people who don't believe Amber is mafia are stuck on the idea that chaoser is mafia or I am mafia. So lynching either him or me is going to reveal the most mafia. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:16 sandroba wrote: Most people who don't believe Amber is mafia are stuck on the idea that chaoser is mafia or I am mafia. So lynching either him or me is going to reveal the most mafia. About the lynch, I get a strong bluetell from Amber, and I prefer not to ignore my gutfeeling and lynch a blue when we have perfectly good scumtells from Cthsazsa and Orgolove. Sandroba and Chaoser are really pushing on that connection between eachother. I don´t like how Sandroba does these "lynch me if I´m wrong" statements. Town can mislynch, it happens all the time, because it´s only Mafia who can ever be 100% sure of the lynch, and saying that you are 100% sure that a target is Mafia is just confusing, because why would Mafia lynch their own? Sure, they can be correct, but they can´t be sure as Town, which is the problem. Self-lynching Mafia or confident Town? I´d prefer to wait with this WIFOM for a while. Is Sandroba and Chaoser scum? I don´t think so, I hope not, but that discussion can wait. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Ignore the last paragraf. I thought they said somewhere they were 100% sure but I didn´t find the post. Either way, I think the question if Sandroba and Chaoser are Town shouldn´t be the topic now, with 8h left on the lynch. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:40 Varpulis wrote: @chaoser I'm not 100% on Amber[LighT]. He's had some bad, pseudo-content posts, but he's also made some good ones that seem genuinely town friendly. I'll keep my eye on him, but I'm not convinced that he's scum. Perfect target for a dt check, I'd say. That's the point of mafia though. You say he has "town friendly" posts but also "pesudo-content" posts. Mafia want to be in that middle ground. I actually haven't seen any town friendly posts from him so can you quote some for me? Cthsazsa is more just straight up having bad town play and he deserves a check. Bad town play is what needs to be DT checked since it's harder to read. But Amber is trying to be useless but seem useful. That's a scum. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:48 sandroba wrote: @Forumite I'm not saying that lynching Amber[Light] is going to make me confirmed town. I'm sure he is mafia now that he posted his bullshit analysis on me. You can look at the post that I've made the commentary on his analysis and you will see it is bullshit. But I only posted what you posted. I never misconstrued anything you wrote on Day 1. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
He has posted a list of the "important" post of each player that died at night. First of all this is a non-contribution, because it does not states the reason why those are important. Second, If you are town How The Hell would you know which posts are really important? The post are presented on a non chronological fashion, and it only makes sense for you to post them in such manner, without stating reason, if you are scum trying to point town in the wrong direction. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:56 chaoser wrote: @Forumite, if amber is blue, he's playing the worst blue ever. He's been consciously trying to fake contribute. Blues don't do that. Reread his attack on Sandroba, it was very weak. If he´s blue, then he can save himself by claiming, so fine, he´s a valid target for now. On May 09 2011 04:00 sandroba wrote: Another point on why Amber[Light] is scum: He has posted a list of the "important" post of each player that died at night. First of all this is a non-contribution, because it does not states the reason why those are important. Second, If you are town How The Hell would you know which posts are really important? The post are presented on a non chronological fashion, and it only makes sense for you to post them in such manner, without stating reason, if you are scum trying to point town in the wrong direction. This is a very weak accusation. Picking out posts is not a scumtell, unless he actively choose posts which give a certain message, like pointing fingers against a certain player. Did you find something like that? | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:49 sandroba wrote: Also I'm not connected with chaoser in any sense except that I'm pretty confident he is town and we are both pushing for Amber[Light]'s lynch. I have yet to see any analysis from you why you think chaoser is pro-town. This is possibly the third or the fourth time you have posted this statement yet every-time avoided conveniently avoided providing any explanation of it. Tell me, why do you think Chaoser is pro-town? What posts/arguments give you such a strong town read on him? | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On May 04 2011 11:39 redtooth wrote: ^ Then please keep your comments out of thread to reduce clutter. Anyways, let us proceed with the game. Hey Irish_Punk13, I have a question for you: How good does it feel to be scum? Want me to explain how I figured it out so fast? Obvscumtell. Please be more discrete next time. I'll put my vote on as soon as the thread gets made. 1 scum down, 5 to go. Really quick to call out someone before the game officially started, and his reason is just plain silly. I comment on that with this: + Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On May 04 2011 13:08 Cthsazsa wrote: This is very interesting. Maybe Redtooth is using that as an excuse to get people riled up? Hmmm. His reaction to my comment? A vote on me. He gives no real reason until later, + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2011 15:02 redtooth wrote: You're all doing it wrong.... Irish was my equivalent of RVS. I thought Cthsazsa was giving a over-the-top serious response but you guys all did it. I'm pretty sure there's no way every person on this page is scum. Also, longpost incoming. Okay, so perhaps he wasn't being serious? But really, I don't see how that is helpful to the Town at all. He quickly disbands his lynch vote on me and claims it was to "spurn discussion". His Long Post that he made shortly after, was just a wall of text stating basic rules of Mafia. Yes, it's helpful. There's no doubt about it. But towards the end of it it becomes apparent he's trying really hard to appear protown. He dedicates a whole Paragraph, named "Rule 4" to killing scum. find scum, prosecute scum, lynch scum, beat scum. there is no better feeling than nailing a good scum to the wall after a war of words. I personally believe it to be just as fun (if not more fun) than being scum. ( This is also contradictory because he creates a guideline we must follow. Where is the fun in that?) He ends the longpost with this little line: SCUM WILL LOSE GUARANTEED. Go town! Next post, he asks us to list our mafia experience. + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2011 16:35 redtooth wrote: (4th Post in a Row) Also remember not to edit as this is a rule not a suggestion. If you really need to add something preface it with EDBWODP (edit by way of double post). To start off, let's have everybody answer the following question: What is your mafia experience/backround like? This can be experience in IRL mafia, approximate # of TL mafia games played, experience playing on mafiascum, "I just arrived from Noobtown", etc. Thanks! This does more bad than good. Does it sound helpful to know these kind of things? Yes. Is it helpful? No. What good is that going to do? Just about none. The only good thing it could do is make him appear town. A. Because Person 1 has played more mafia games than Person 2, Person 1 is going to know more about blending in then Person 2, so Person 1 must be a suspect!! That's flawed reasoning. B. It's going to bloat up the thread with information we don't really need. On May 04 2011 16:46 redtooth wrote: I've been gone from mafia forum for over a year now. If they're recent, I definitely didn't play in them. If they're not, I simply don't remember. The only smurf game I played was the invite-only one waaay back where I got policy-lynched for inactivity since I didn't realize the game had started (I still maintain that it was the host's fault for not alerting me on my main acc haha). Answer my question too sucker. Or are you trying to dodge because you're scum?!?!?! Let me point out that this is the third person he accuses of scum in a single day. orglove points out that the words in bold is a clear lie. He proceeds to make these long ass guidelines that we need to follow because the thread is "chaotic". Again, will that help? No. Why? People will be too busy trying to make posts in his format instead of actually scumhunting. And if you didn't check, the format he wants everyone to post in is strict. Does it appear helpful? Duh. If you go back and read his guidelines, that much is clear. But all he's doing is promoting himself as a townie. If everyone is posting in the same format, that makes it one step harder to separate scum from us. Conclusion. redtooth is scum. If not, please shoot me tonight. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
While his guidelines for posting are too much of a hazzle for me, they don´t make him scum. He actually posted a good reason for spending Night 1 with talking about that, to avoid rampant accusations that would only lead to WIFOM and chaos once the nightkills came in. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:21 chaoser wrote: Se,, does that look like he was coached by fellow mafia or does it look like dumbass town? I don't know, it's a nulltell. I'd rather think that mafia would coach him though, especially considering they got helpful coaching too. Either way, he's prime for a check. Lol. Dumbass town is a little harsh. Someone mentioned earlier, I think it was Conversion, that the coaches are giving me horrible advice. I didn't ask for advice. I asked them what a certain Mafia term meant. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Cthsazsa (4) Conversion redtooth Varpulis ilovejonn Amber[light] (3) chaoser sandroba chaos13 We've been talking about these two all day and I think it's fair to say that at the end of the day we get the most out of lynching one of these two. That being said, people should decide on whether to vote on one or the other. Voting all willy-nilly on people that no one else is focusing on (Beneather, Forumite, redtooth, and kevconism) isn't helping anyone and just allows mafia to randomly vote and not have to deal with the consequences. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
You guys are giving him too much leeway for being a bad townie, imo. I don't really see why amber seems scummy to some people. Vote's sticking with cthsazsa; I suggest some of you start voting either him or amber. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
Please note that I'm not giving up, but I'm pretty much fucked for a day lynch right now. | ||
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