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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 02:20 GMT
#981
On April 11 2011 11:10 aidnai wrote:
Anyway I feel really good about GM being mayor, he's certainly green in my eyes. What surprises me is that kita hasn't gotten any mayoral attention-- his posts have nearly all been on the mark, and though I was thinking he could be black for a while, taking such a strong stand against prot makes him green to me. I'm voting kita.

##Vote kitaman27


This is exceptionally poor reasoning. If kita was black, that would force him to be anti-protact, how could his stance possibly indicate to you that he is not black? at best, it is neutral.[/QUOTE]

If I were black, or red for that matter, I would not want to make myself a target at such an early point in the game. I already know the identity of one assassin leaving only one other assassin left to hunt. I see little reason to draw so much attention to myself. I'm actively opposing a person who claims to have 3 kp at their disposal. That's a pretty big risk to take for a survivor-type role.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 11 2011 02:23 GMT
#982
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


This is your first post in this thread. You state the obvious, use a lot of filler sentences, and repeat pretty much exactly what other people have said e.g. you talk about how if protact were mayor he would be in a LYLO situation, something you would know has been already discussed if you actually read the thread. So assuming you have read the thread you seem to be posting without contributing.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:24 GMT
#983
I feel terrible abotu gmarshal right now. I think mayor should be me but everyone hates me so I guess kitaman27 is a rational choice.

Just to re iterate.

I AM RUNNING FOR MAYOR.

My platform:
-ignore assassin bullshit for the most part
-I'd consider protact for pardoner because
a. he will use his powers to help the town in exchange for the bodyguard protection so he can win his game
b. pardoner isn't a strong role for the town
-keep town focused on hunting scum
-ignore everything pandain and kenpachi say

so if those seem like things you like, you should vote for me. My top 3 lynch candidates are:
1. originalname
2. mig
3. kavdragon

RIP Aaliyah
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#984
Bro, I'd vote for you but I already got my vote on Prot
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#985
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.
Life can only kill you once.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#986
On April 11 2011 11:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.

this post in 1 second:
i haven't done anything this whole game but criticize DrH and im old
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:30 GMT
#987
well it's just my way of saying what

On April 11 2011 11:23 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


This is your first post in this thread. You state the obvious, use a lot of filler sentences, and repeat pretty much exactly what other people have said e.g. you talk about how if protact were mayor he would be in a LYLO situation, something you would know has been already discussed if you actually read the thread. So assuming you have read the thread you seem to be posting without contributing.


red said so well here

my point is this is another one of those kavdragonesque "look at me contribute!" posts where he contributes nothing

On April 11 2011 11:29 chaoser wrote:
Bro, I'd vote for you but I already got my vote on Prot


change it!
RIP Aaliyah
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
April 11 2011 02:31 GMT
#988
I thought you were going to tone it down Dr. H?

And for the record I don't believe you to be scum anymore. I think you're just upfront and bitter. Fine by me as long as you are as good as people think you are at this game.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 11 2011 02:31 GMT
#989
On April 11 2011 11:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I feel terrible abotu gmarshal right now. I think mayor should be me but everyone hates me so I guess kitaman27 is a rational choice.

Just to re iterate.

I AM RUNNING FOR MAYOR.

My platform:
-ignore assassin bullshit for the most part
-I'd consider protact for pardoner because
a. he will use his powers to help the town in exchange for the bodyguard protection so he can win his game
b. pardoner isn't a strong role for the town
-keep town focused on hunting scum
-ignore everything pandain and kenpachi say

so if those seem like things you like, you should vote for me. My top 3 lynch candidates are:
1. originalname
2. mig
3. kavdragon



That makes 2 of us. I have been pushing for a day one lynch of originalname for a while, I think you should consider m0nsterChef too. I will do everything I can do to try and convince people to not vote gmarshal as the amount of reasonless votes for him is still unfathomable. Yeah i'm stalling on who i vote for because i want to see more solid numbers. That being said:
##Unvote Protact
## Vote DrH

As i feel we need a rational town mayor as opposed to an assassin mayor, though i still want Protact as pardoner. 2 extra kills for town and a check guys come on.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 11 2011 02:32 GMT
#990
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:34 GMT
#991
On April 11 2011 11:31 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I thought you were going to tone it down Dr. H?

And for the record I don't believe you to be scum anymore. I think you're just upfront and bitter. Fine by me as long as you are as good as people think you are at this game.

Ha, I'm a nice person but my point stands from earlier. I'm just teasing jackal.

Posts like the ones MetalHead just made are pretty scummy imo, you have to look past the "wordswordswordswordswords" and think about what the direction of their post is. His post had no direction other than to appear contributive. That's not good.
RIP Aaliyah
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:36 GMT
#992
On April 11 2011 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.

this post in 1 second:
i haven't done anything this whole game but criticize DrH and im old

I've been critical of your dick swinging play style. Not the content of it. If I want to hear 13 year old punks call everybody an idiot I'll start playing on Battlenet again.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#993
On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote:
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?

Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings.
Life can only kill you once.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:39 GMT
#994
On April 11 2011 11:36 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.

this post in 1 second:
i haven't done anything this whole game but criticize DrH and im old

I've been critical of your dick swinging play style. Not the content of it. If I want to hear 13 year old punks call everybody an idiot I'll start playing on Battlenet again.

That's alright. It rubs people the wrong way and that's not an accident. We've played together before so you know I'm not always like this. I got some good reactions and material to think about and I think this will make my Day 2 analysis much much stronger.

The ends justifies the means if it means the town is better off later imo.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 11 2011 02:40 GMT
#995
On April 11 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote:
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?

Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings.

oh the wacky hijinks the three of us could get into
RIP Aaliyah
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 11 2011 02:42 GMT
#996
On April 11 2011 11:31 redFF wrote:
That makes 2 of us. I have been pushing for a day one lynch of originalname for a while, I think you should consider m0nsterChef too.


I want to ask a simple question. Where the fuck have you been pushing for ON's lynch? I've gone over every single one of your posts and aside from this one:

OriginalName-

+ Show Spoiler +

Seems solid at first glance, but there is no real reasoning other than he "knows" that gm is bad at scum. hmmmm


You haven't pushed any lynch on ON. This is probably the only time you mention him aside from a "That makes 2 FoS on ON" throwaway comment. You haven't FoSed him at all. You haven't pushed for his lynch at all.

On April 11 2011 04:56 redFF wrote:
I compiled a little list on inactives/lurkers
Metalface-no posts since sign up
Ream- no posts since game started
Lattrommi-is he even playing??? was signed up by someone else and hasn't posted
TranceStorm- lurking hardcore
lemonwalrus- hasnt posted since day 1 began
milkyst- no posts since sign up
The_Roist- just posted above me for the first time XD
Jaminz- no post since sign up
DarthThienAn- no posts since day 1
M0nsterChef- hasn't posted since day 1, has 14 posts so could just not play.
Serejai- no posts since sign up


He's not even on your list. What's the dealo?


You're lists are cute and all but aside from going after MonsterChef like he was going out of fashion, you've barely done anything. All you say is "He didn't explain himself, he voted GM, lots of people voted GM, MONSTERCHEF IS SCUM" which you pretty much trumpet every single post. Going after easy targets, making lists that really say nothing, FoS: redFF

I know you're a newbie and all and I use to do similar things when I first started but this is not the way to play town.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:44 GMT
#997
On April 11 2011 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote:
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?

Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings.

oh the wacky hijinks the three of us could get into

Prison or Disney World.
Life can only kill you once.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 11 2011 03:00 GMT
#998
GM said he wanted to lynch an inactive if he got voted in so i posted a list of all the inactives.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 11 2011 03:08 GMT
#999
On April 11 2011 12:00 redFF wrote:
GM said he wanted to lynch an inactive if he got voted in so i posted a list of all the inactives.


Ok so where's the push for ON? There is none.

Also there is a difference between inactives and lurkers. I think someone already posted on this but inactives are people who haven't read/done anything in thread. They are probably bored townie. It's the lurkers we need to worry about. They've been following the thread but haven't posted a lot. Such as TranceStorm and ON.

It's easy to say omg these three people haven't posted yet, mafia! but more than not they're just bored townies or overwhelmed newbies. What do you think about Kita, TranceStorm, Dropbear, and Wiggles?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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Canada1140 Posts
April 11 2011 03:09 GMT
#1000
On April 11 2011 12:00 redFF wrote:
GM said he wanted to lynch an inactive if he got voted in so i posted a list of all the inactives.


Your dodging the question also what seems scummy about me other than my choice for mayor? Just because I defend rationality doesn't make me scum. Try again.

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