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It's definitely way too big of a risk to put an assassin as mayor so I think the main question is whether we should use the medics to protect him. Obviously prot would accept the medic proposal if he doesn't get elected because otherwise hes insta dead. Also it would be a way for the town to control him because if he ever refuses to use his powers the town can just not use the medics to protect him.
The problem with using the medics on prot would be A) it would give the assassins incentive to attack townies, similar to if he was mayor, also we don't know the role numbers. If we only have 1 medic and there are 3 assassins or 4 assassins and 2 medics then the assassins could still kill prot and our medics power would be wasted. Btw this is assuming we can stack medics if that's not possible someone can correct me.
Overall I think its too big of a risk to use the medics on prot and they would be better spent protecting the outspoken town members.
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On April 10 2011 14:42 Mig wrote:
It's definitely way too big of a risk to put an assassin as mayor so I think the main question is whether we should use the medics to protect him. Obviously prot would accept the medic proposal if he doesn't get elected because otherwise hes insta dead. Also it would be a way for the town to control him because if he ever refuses to use his powers the town can just not use the medics to protect him.
The problem with using the medics on prot would be A) it would give the assassins incentive to attack townies, similar to if he was mayor, also we don't know the role numbers. If we only have 1 medic and there are 3 assassins or 4 assassins and 2 medics then the assassins could still kill prot and our medics power would be wasted. Btw this is assuming we can stack medics if that's not possible someone can correct me.
Overall I think its too big of a risk to use the medics on prot and they would be better spent protecting the outspoken town members.
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos
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On April 10 2011 14:41 Conversion wrote:
Well, you have to account for the time zones and such GM. Some people might not be awake (I'm not supposed to be, but shhh.)
Anyways, since there's no voting thread, I guess we sit tight for a bit? And read over posts, of course.
AND POST. POST SO WE CAN GET READS ON YOU!!!!
sorry for the caps, we dont "sit tight" we think and post our thoughts.
Conversion, who do you think is the best mayor candidate right now?
And if you had control of the lynch right now who would die?
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I'm debating over you or kav, but I'm waiting to get a solid opinion on the other candidates before I make my choice.
If I had control of the lynch... possibly one of the inactives. FoS on Eiii for the arbitrary number of assassins (he said three iirc, right?)
But even if I did have control of the lynch, there's far too many players that have not posted to formulate a concrete decision.
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he probably got confused with the amount of kills they have
how is that a "mafia' fos, why would you fos him for that. if the number of assassins is indeed 3, they'll just kill him tonight so who cares
eii would make a shitty lynch
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On April 10 2011 14:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he probably got confused with the amount of kills they have
how is that a "mafia' fos, why would you fos him for that. if the number of assassins is indeed 3, they'll just kill him tonight so who cares
eii would make a shitty lynch
when you say fos you're implying what they said somehow implies they are mafia so i'd like you to explain that because it makes absolutely zero sense
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United States4714 Posts
On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos
I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time.
If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid.
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By the way, mafia DON'T want prot in office. That's one less chance of them getting a red into office, which is what they actually want. And for the black to offer his KP and check to town makes it even less likely mafia would want black in office. Thus everyone saying no, whether they're actually town or not, needs to be given a look at later.
Especially Mig, sorry bro. He's been very wishy washy:
After all the other assassins are eliminated protactinium would just leave the game right? So if he managed to eliminate the other assassins early we could lose the chance to have a powerful town mayor for the rest of the game.
Goes from hinting prot isn't a good pick.
I do think making an assassin the mayor would turn the other assassins against the town but they are still extremely limited in what they can do since they only have 3 kills to use. But the 2nd point doesn't make any sense at all. What motive could the assassin possibly have to tell the mafia who the body guards were? The assassin would need to protect his bodyguards just as much as anyone. As long as his body guards are alive hes free to hunt the other assassins without there being any threat to his well being.
To being ambiguous about it. Basically he says "Assassins might attack town so maybe we shouldn't vote Prot. But maybe it's ok since they only have 3 kills each to use."
Overall I think its too big of a risk to use the medics on prot and they would be better spent protecting the outspoken town members.
Back to fuck prot.
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On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid.
it's just shit everyone else said, sounds like you're regurgitating the points strong players have made to make yourself sound agreeable somehow. if you were typing up that small post at the same time we already went through all that then you're the worlds slowest typist
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On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid.
So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions
Who is your #1 town read?
Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read?
Who is your favorite Starcraft Player?
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On April 10 2011 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he probably got confused with the amount of kills they have
how is that a "mafia' fos, why would you fos him for that. if the number of assassins is indeed 3, they'll just kill him tonight so who cares
eii would make a shitty lynch when you say fos you're implying what they said somehow implies they are mafia so i'd like you to explain that because it makes absolutely zero sense
Where in my post, if you're directing this to me, did I state "mafia FoS?"
FoS means that I am just watching him. Whether we share the same definition for a mafia term would just boil down into an argument of nothing (and inevitably spam/clutter), so can we avoid that?
from mafiawiki "... used to formally indicate 'you're being watched.' "
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On April 10 2011 14:12 tnkted wrote:
Watcher should watch Eiii tonight, but not post in the thread who the killer was. That way we have some serious incentive to keep pan on our side.
That said, I'm certainly not voting for Pan for mayor. Mayor is a late-game position... we need to keep those 3 votes in townie hands as long as physically possible.
damn it, am I going to get assassin'd for confusing three banhammers with three asssassins? >:|
Well, don't waste a watch on me and expect to get anything out of it, assassins can't do anything night 1.
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On April 10 2011 14:51 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid. So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions Who is your #1 town read? Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read? Who is your favorite Starcraft Player?
Y U NO GIVE ME QUESTIONS?!
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On April 10 2011 14:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 10 2011 14:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he probably got confused with the amount of kills they have
how is that a "mafia' fos, why would you fos him for that. if the number of assassins is indeed 3, they'll just kill him tonight so who cares
eii would make a shitty lynch when you say fos you're implying what they said somehow implies they are mafia so i'd like you to explain that because it makes absolutely zero sense Where in my post, if you're directing this to me, did I state "mafia FoS?" FoS means that I am just watching him. Whether we share the same definition for a mafia term would just boil down into an argument of nothing (and inevitably spam/clutter), so can we avoid that? from mafiawiki "... used to formally indicate 'you're being watched.' "
finger of suspicion
as in "i suspect you of being mafia but not really enough to vote"
if you suspect him of being assassin who cares? you basically implied in your post that he would be a possible lynch candidate which is nonsensical if you think he's an assassin in the first place.
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On April 10 2011 14:56 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:51 GMarshal wrote:On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid. So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions Who is your #1 town read? Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read? Who is your favorite Starcraft Player? Y U NO GIVE ME QUESTIONS?!
Because as far as I can tell you are playing to your usual town meta.
However if you are bored I can give you questions
Between all the mayor candidates, which do you think is most likely scum (Assuming they are running) ?
Name 2 players who you expected to see more action from who are not posting as much as you think they should
Favorite SC BW map?
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What are you even arguing here? I can't FoS someone for being an assassin? So now you're telling me that I can only FoS possible lynch targets?
You can have a completely different definition of FoS in your head compared to the one I have in mine. I understand that you like spamming up threads (you even have a reputation of it), but really? What are you even pointing at here? Am I mafia for misusing FoS in your opinion? Am I mafia for FoSing and assassin, when GMarshal prodded me to speak? Yes I am new and I would rather not speak because I'd make a lot of mistakes that would lead to scum reads from the players that can't differentiate from scum and bad townie play.
Stop arguing about silly things, it's getting you nowhere. If you somehow deduce that I'm scum from senseless arguments like these  kudos to you for failing.
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As others have said, I think voting a black in is lose-lose. There's no guarantee he'll do anything to really help us, and then we lose our mayor/pardoner.
Also, as far as medicing him goes, I think we can just drop the discussion on that until Day 2. Assassins can't do anything night one, so unless mafia wants to hit him, there's no need to waste a medic on him. If he still wants to negotiate for kills later, then we can do that when he's actually in a position to kill. However, just to add to that quickly, he's actually useless to town if he's not mayor/pardoner, because if he says he's hitting a town chosen target, mafia can just RB him, because he's outed himself publicly. So, we don't want him in office, and he can't help us out of office.
So, overall, I don't think he can help town much, besides giving all the other assassins a non-town target for night 2.
Right now, I'm most comfortable picking either GMarshal or Dr.H for mayor. I've gotten the strongest town reads from them, and they've both shown they're not afraid of trying to look for scum and lead town in the right direction.
^ My thoughts.
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On April 10 2011 14:58 GMarshal wrote:
Because as far as I can tell you are playing to your usual town meta.
However if you are bored I can give you questions
Between all the mayor candidates, which do you think is most likely scum (Assuming they are running) ?
Name 2 players who you expected to see more action from who are not posting as much as you think they should
Favorite SC BW map?
lol last time you thought I was town you were wrong =P
Kav is probably most scummy out of you me and kav. Kita's is a throw away campaign. I think you should be mayor, I can be pardoner and we can lead the town into an era of prosperity. I'd rather I be pardoner but I love balls to the wall play and having a black in office and taking up a spot for sure instead of a red is appealing so he'd be a third place runner after me in my book.
I want ON and Tackster to speak up.
ON because he came in, said some throwaway stuff, voted you and then didn't say anything else. Even though just moments before Prot did his balls to the wall claim. ON hasn't said a single thing. Whether that's cause he's busy or cause he's afraid of commenting on it cause he's mafia and needs to consult his team is up in the air. I'mma keep a close watch on him all game.
Tackster because he posted well in insane II and I hope to see more of the same. He's on the other side of the world so I understand time differences would cause him to not be posting right now.
Wuthering Heights because it used the Twilight template and also because it's named after the saddest book I've ever read.
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On April 10 2011 15:02 Conversion wrote:What are you even arguing here? I can't FoS someone for being an assassin? So now you're telling me that I can only FoS possible lynch targets? You can have a completely different definition of FoS in your head compared to the one I have in mine. I understand that you like spamming up threads (you even have a reputation of it), but really? What are you even pointing at here? Am I mafia for misusing FoS in your opinion? Am I mafia for FoSing and assassin, when GMarshal prodded me to speak? Yes I am new and I would rather not speak because I'd make a lot of mistakes that would lead to scum reads from the players that can't differentiate from scum and bad townie play. Stop arguing about silly things, it's getting you nowhere. If you somehow deduce that I'm scum from senseless arguments like these kudos to you for failing.
im not arguing im trying to understand your terrible post
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On April 10 2011 15:08 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:58 GMarshal wrote:
Because as far as I can tell you are playing to your usual town meta.
However if you are bored I can give you questions
Between all the mayor candidates, which do you think is most likely scum (Assuming they are running) ?
Name 2 players who you expected to see more action from who are not posting as much as you think they should
Favorite SC BW map? lol last time you thought I was town you were wrong =P Kav is probably most scummy out of you me and kav. Kita's is a throw away campaign. I think you should be mayor, I can be pardoner and we can lead the town into an era of prosperity. I'd rather I be pardoner but I love balls to the wall play and having a black in office and taking up a spot for sure instead of a red is appealing so he'd be a third place runner after me in my book. I want ON and Tackster to speak up. ON because he came in, said some throwaway stuff, voted you and then didn't say anything else. Even though just moments before Prot did his balls to the wall claim. ON hasn't said a single thing. Whether that's cause he's busy or cause he's afraid of commenting on it cause he's mafia and needs to consult his team is up in the air. I'mma keep a close watch on him all game. Tackster because he posted well in insane II and I hope to see more of the same. He's on the other side of the world so I understand time differences would cause him to not be posting right now. Wuthering Heights because it used the Twilight template and also because it's named after the saddest book I've ever read.
im running too you know
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