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On March 25 2011 00:29 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 00:20 BrownBear wrote:It's POSSIBLE that bum is a 3rd-party and our blue team is retarded. Very very unlikely though. I see no reason to not vote for him at least for the time being. Although, probably not happening, but imagine this: bum is 3rd party. Blues counterclaim. another 3rd party CCs the blue's counterclaim (nah guys, bum's a blue, so am i!). Blues with another of theirs. So on and so forth. Mafia rofls. We lose pretty hard  So on until it's 4-4, we give Mayor to someone else, lynch Bum and see what he flips as. Blue? Kill the 4 counterclaiming. Black? Kill the 3 defending him. At worst we trade Bum for the ENTIRE black party. Hell of a trade if you ask me.
Technically, we trade all the blues, because mafia will then proceed to nightkill everyone who survives the madness. Still not a TERRIBLE trade, just not the best.
RoL: You knew that already 
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On March 25 2011 00:27 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 23:47 Jackal58 wrote:On March 24 2011 23:36 chaoser wrote:I'll vote for bum, if he gets counter claimed then I'll stay in the race. On March 24 2011 22:58 Jackal58 wrote:On March 24 2011 22:07 deconduo wrote:
If he's blue: Vote for him
If he's not: There will be a cc
Whats not to get? We hope if he's black there will be a cc. 4 blues and a bunch of noobs in the game. I'm not holding my breath. Anyways here is a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red or a black: 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus I'm green. I suspect Coag is as well. So going on that we have a 50/50 shot at a red and a black between darm, annul, Tackster and LW. Tackster and Lemon I don't know. So I don't know what to expect out of their play. I haven't seen darm post yet. Is annul red again? Wouldn't put it past LSB to do so. Or maybe he changed it up and made him black. I would recommend confining our day 1 lynch to somebody on this list. Thanks for basically copying and restating my idea...this + being against bum's run makes me FoS you. If you said it I missed it. The only one I saw was Meapak's. Then I wouldn't want you as a mayor at all. It's been posted/quoted a good 4-5 times. For mayor to miss something like that doesn't bode well for the future.
I'm at work. Pardon me.
Voting for somebody that can't keep their alignment to themselves for 4 hours bodes exceptionally well doesn't it?
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I think we might have to vote bum now that he claimed... LSB's hints give me the impression that mafia gets to kill somebody tonight. Bum's gonna need the bodyguards.
Does mafia get a kill tonight?
And jackal, ATM your base of support for your candidacy consists of you and Coag, and Coag's numerous posts supporting you (included in the spoiler below) make me not want to vote for you. That could mean that you are both mafia, trying to get you elected, or it could mean that Coag is mafia and is trying to get newbie townies (like myself) to vote for you based purely on the strength of your reputation. This would mean that mafia wants you to be elected mayor, or that they don't want us to elect you. Either way, you're more dangerous to town than bum is.
IMO, voting on reputation is a bad idea. We have no evidence that you are not mafia this game; you haven't contributed much other than trying to pick apart other people's plans/candidacies, and coag's support for you is suspicious. Its safer to vote for the guy with the best plan that has acted most townlike. Bum has, and besides, now that he's claimed we're kind of obligated to protect him, otherwise mafia will try to kill him night 0, assuming that they get a kill.
Coags posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2011 11:49 Coagulation wrote:
im gonna vote for jackal based on
him not knowing about a second faction pretty much confirms him as town. On March 24 2011 11:50 Coagulation wrote:
hes also manages to nail scum about 75% of the time he pushes a lynch on someone. On March 24 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:08 tnkted wrote:On March 24 2011 12:05 Coagulation wrote:
Because he had absolutely no idea what the setup was for scum Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it. That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence. you can ask around i am pretty damn good at getting 100% town reads day 1 and banking big money on it and coming out on top. On March 24 2011 12:56 Coagulation wrote:
jackal has a pretty damn fine track record of pushing to lynch scum.
and as for transparency i dont think you will find anyone more straightforward than him.
its also worth mentioning again we have much better odds of landing a town mayor if we elect from the item game to top that off i have a town read on him. and another thing needed to be taken into consideration is the item game players have a PM Circle to work with.
This is pretty much as good as it gets.
Imo Coag is an easy lynch night one.
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On March 23 2011 15:10 LSB wrote:
No kills will take place night 0
Godfatheresque selections will take place night 0
Day 1 will be a mayoral election with the mayor deciding the lynch the first day.
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I withdraw from mayor.
My vote will go to Kav.
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On March 25 2011 01:37 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 15:10 LSB wrote:
No kills will take place night 0
Godfatheresque selections will take place night 0
Day 1 will be a mayoral election with the mayor deciding the lynch the first day.
woop!
my bad.
The question remains though: what happens night 0? I have a stinking feeling that something bad is going to happen to bum for revealing this early...
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On March 24 2011 23:45 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 14:13 iGrok wrote:
There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town. Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 18:41 deconduo wrote:
Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, iGrok might be excusable because of he's newish, but I'm inclined to disbelieve that you would fail so hard on your logic Decon... Scum hunters cannot tell the mayor what to push if they are dead. Besides, it's not like the mayor has some magical ability to bend the town to his will. When I was mayor in XXXVI, I was able to control the lynches because I was one of the only active scum hunters, Not because I was mayor. Mayor was only the shield I used so that I COULD hunt scum without dieing. This is about protecting the people that are going to be hit by the mafia early and often. Read the pre-game, we already had the discussion about who the mafia would hit: If they don't hit the vets/analysts they will be caught. If bum cannot analyse then the mafia would LOVE to see him as mayor, because it's protecting someone who they wouldn't have hit anyways. I want to stay active, and bring the pain to the red/black teams. I can't do this if I am dead. Vote for Kav. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know and I'll try to explain it more simply.
So you claim that its better to have a unconfirmed good scumhunter as mayor as opposed to a confirmed good scumhunter with an entire confirmed circle of scumhunters behind him. While we don't know if that team is good or not, surely there is no contest here?
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BTW guys, one really important thing to remember is that this IS insane mafia. Mafia might have some sort of recruiting power that can be stopped by protects or something which is why LSB said it's not in our best interest to claim most of the time. So let's be a bit more cautious with any plans for claiming in the future. While bum's claim was unavoidable after he slipped and I will vote for him, lets not follow in his example and claim all over.
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On March 25 2011 01:26 tnkted wrote:
Does mafia get a kill tonight?
No
In addition, I have added a poll here and in the Mod Notes of the OP
Poll: Would you like a Public IRC with recorded chat logs?No (17) 77% Yes (5) 23% 22 total votes Your vote: Would you like a Public IRC with recorded chat logs? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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No, just post in this thread.
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On March 25 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
BTW guys, one really important thing to remember is that this IS insane mafia. Mafia might have some sort of recruiting power that can be stopped by protects or something which is why LSB said it's not in our best interest to claim most of the time. So let's be a bit more cautious with any plans for claiming in the future. While bum's claim was unavoidable after he slipped and I will vote for him, lets not follow in his example and claim all over.
So you support a mayor that can't post without inadvertently saying stuff he probably shouldn't?
He got nked in XXXVI on night 1 because he let his role slip in a pm circle.
Seems to be an ongoing issue with him.
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My thoughts as I'm going through this...
On March 24 2011 21:12 Jackal58 wrote:
Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip?
So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table?
C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him.
I can't 100% disagree with this. He does make some good points.
On March 24 2011 22:52 CubEdIn wrote:
So far, there's just one claim of blue. There are two scenarios:
a) All REAL blues are asleep and will counter-claim later on.
b) He is blue and the three other blue are keeping their mouth shut as they should.
Actually, I've changed my mind. This guy makes more sense.
[Blue and green win together, right?]
As I'm not used to this many people, please excuse me.
I know who I'll be voting for for mayor tomorrow.
I'm not sure I like these blue claims though. I can't see how it's favourable at this point, especially with not a single CC yet. Of course, that might be because of different timezones so different activity levels at different times of the day.
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Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad?
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EBWOP
That should read XXXVII
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On March 25 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
BTW guys, one really important thing to remember is that this IS insane mafia. Mafia might have some sort of recruiting power that can be stopped by protects or something which is why LSB said it's not in our best interest to claim most of the time. So let's be a bit more cautious with any plans for claiming in the future. While bum's claim was unavoidable after he slipped and I will vote for him, lets not follow in his example and claim all over.
I fail to see how it was unavoidable. Which page was it on?
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On March 25 2011 02:07 chaoser wrote:
Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad?
Was that to me?
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On March 25 2011 02:09 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 02:07 chaoser wrote:
Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad? Was that to me?
nah, the poll.
to the people who voted no: why?
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On March 25 2011 02:00 ilovejonn wrote:
No, just post in this thread.
Sorry, it was to that
Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad?
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I actually don't understand what the poll is asking. :$
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Seems to me that all greens would vote yes; we dont have anything to hide. Real time pressure = real time scumhunting. Can't think about what you're going to say before you say it.
There are 6 votes no, and 6 scum. COINCIDENCE?!
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EPT
