EPTI'd also like to point out that a lot of people haven't posted yet. There are potentially a lot of reds and blacks lurking right now.
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
I'd also like to point out that a lot of people haven't posted yet. There are potentially a lot of reds and blacks lurking right now. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
 I just realized I missed Kav's big post. Now that I've read it I'm feeling better about him, he's less of an unknown. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
If there is a blue out there not aligned to Bum: CLAIM. If he isn't really blue we've found a free first scum. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 24 2011 18:01 Rean wrote: Unless someone goes for the counter-claim, i'd say we can't go wrong electing Bum. Otherwise we're potentially giving away Mayor to a mafia, and that risk doesn't sound like one that we should be taking. If there is a blue out there not aligned to Bum: CLAIM. If he isn't really blue we've found a free first scum. Well I mean someone counter claiming doesn't automatically make me scum >_> they could be lying but I doubt mafia or third party has the balls. My balls should be getting cold, as they are hanging loosely from my open fly. They remain warm and filled with virility. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
On March 24 2011 18:26 bumatlarge wrote: Well I mean someone counter claiming doesn't automatically make me scum >_> they could be lying but I doubt mafia or third party has the balls. My balls should be getting cold, as they are hanging loosely from my open fly. They remain warm and filled with virility. Yeah, that's what i meant, sorry, bad wording Admittedly, it'd be stupid to claim if you're really a blue because it'd just be suicide. Not to mention it'd also be suicide to claim a blue day 1 when you're not, because then you're also fucked. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I skimmed over most of the thread and here are my thoughts so far: 1. There's no way I'll vote a guy that doesn't know what WIFOM means for mayer, sorry new guy. 2. Jackal was ok for mayor, unless he does the wrong tunneling thing he's sometimes prone to and wastes a blue/police day one. But the odds of that are quite small, so I'm sorta-fine with it. 3. GMarshal is a pretty transparent player, so he's a good choice as well, but the fact is he was wrong a huge number of times in XXXVII (I mean, he voted for the wrong person till the end), so while I like him (xoxo), I don't want him as the leader, yet. 4. Kav - I didn't even read the post I went straight to pictures. They were the same as 36 so I was like T_T. And he can't be claiming medic again since the roles aren't out yet. But yeah, I don't mind him as a mayor. Either him or Jackal were my top choices. 5. Chaoser - There's no freaking way I'd vote you for mayor after the huge "fuck you town" move you did in death factory. I'm not saying you're a bad player, but you need to learn to be pro-town even when town is attacking you. -.- 6. Annul - read OP moar! And then bum came and changed everything. He's obviously the best choice because: - if he wasn't blue, there would certainly be a counter-claim - if you're blue and nobody in your team is gonna counter-claim, you're retarded - IF there's gonna be a counter-claim, then we can just check supporters. Both of them should have 3 supporters minimum, so if we force everyone in their team to support them, then we will have not one but four confirmed scum/third party after one of them gets killed. So yeah, my vote goes to bummy. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
If he is not blue, then: -He's taking a huuuuge risk -Why hasn't a blue cc'd Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 24 2011 18:41 deconduo wrote: I don't see any reason not to vote for bum tbh. I had that plan in mind myself too, but I wanted to wait until I got my alignment first to make sure I was town. If he is not blue, then: -He's taking a huuuuge risk -Why hasn't a blue cc'd Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet. What? Semi-claim blue? You guys have to ask yourselves a question. Would any other blues come forward to confirm bum? No they wouldn't. Not until much later in the game. But a bunch of bullet proof black aligned players would very much try to make a blue claim. Their best bet to win is getting one as mayor. They can only lose if we lynch them. I'm not buying bum's story. I'm not buying it one bit. I'm also loooking really hard at those of you that are saying he's blue and will get your vote for mayor. Keep your eyes on them guys. Our black team may have just reared its ugly head. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 24 2011 19:12 Jackal58 wrote: What? Semi-claim blue? You guys have to ask yourselves a question. Would any other blues come forward to confirm bum? No they wouldn't. Not until much later in the game. But a bunch of bullet proof black aligned players would very much try to make a blue claim. Their best bet to win is getting one as mayor. They can only lose if we lynch them. I'm not buying bum's story. I'm not buying it one bit. I'm also loooking really hard at those of you that are saying he's blue and will get your vote for mayor. Keep your eyes on them guys. Our black team may have just reared its ugly head. So if bum is black, WHY HASN'T A BLUE CCD? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101. FOS Jackal | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
One blue to claim will be enough to throw crap on bum and people who support him. Sure, it might lead to lynching the blue or having him killed, but it will be a 1-1 trade with the black team (or reds, w/e) Think about it, Blacks are bullet-proof, they are only scared of being lynched. And you're saying that their plan is to stick their heads out and draw attention to themselves? Possibly putting themselves in a position to be lynched day one? Pleezee. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 24 2011 19:16 deconduo wrote: In fact, the only way scum can shut down his campaign without CCing is to throw as much suspicion as possible on him, kind of like what you are doing now. Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101. FOS Jackal Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip? So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table? C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 24 2011 21:12 Jackal58 wrote: Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip? So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table? C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him. Don't you get it? A blue doesn't need to claim to confirm him unless a mafia ccs. Mafia cc = 2 blues exposed for a mafia lynch day one. In that case, one of the blues will be mayor and as such unkillable, and we can simply put a medic on the second one. GG If bum IS mafia, then a blue should absolutely 100% cc right now. Until that happens, anyone giving a bullshit reason for not voting bum as mayor should be at the top of the lynch list. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 24 2011 20:16 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah Jackal wtf? One blue to claim will be enough to throw crap on bum and people who support him. Sure, it might lead to lynching the blue or having him killed, but it will be a 1-1 trade with the black team (or reds, w/e) Think about it, Blacks are bullet-proof, they are only scared of being lynched. And you're saying that their plan is to stick their heads out and draw attention to themselves? Possibly putting themselves in a position to be lynched day one? Pleezee. If another blue wants to confirm his alignment I'm all ears. If another blue wants to burst his bubble I'm all ears. Either way it's lose/lose for town. We lose bum if he's blue. We lose another blue if he's not. Or we lose 2 if another blue confirms him. How is that good for town???? It's not. How is that good for black???? You already answered that. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 24 2011 21:17 deconduo wrote: Don't you get it? A blue doesn't need to claim to confirm him unless a mafia ccs. Mafia cc = 2 blues exposed for a mafia lynch day one. In that case, one of the blues will be mayor and as such unkillable, and we can simply put a medic on the second one. GG If bum IS mafia, then a blue should absolutely 100% cc right now. Until that happens, anyone giving a bullshit reason for not voting bum as mayor should be at the top of the lynch list. Fine. He's blue. I don't buy it. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 24 2011 22:01 Jackal58 wrote: If another blue wants to confirm his alignment I'm all ears. - NO! Another blue should only claim if there is a counterclaim. Trying to bait one to come out is FUCKING SCUMMY TO THE EXTREME If another blue wants to burst his bubble I'm all ears. Yes, thats the point. Unless this happens assume bum clear Either way it's lose/lose for town. We lose bum if he's blue. He'll be mayor, how do we lose him??????? We lose another blue if he's not. Or we lose 2 if another blue confirms him. Counterclaim gets elected mayor, supporter is mediced, bum the scum is lynched. Free mafia for day 1 lynch and we have confirmed town as mayor. How is that good for town???? It's not. How is that good for black???? You already answered that. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
If he's not: There will be a cc Whats not to get? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 24 2011 15:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: ##Vote Chaoser? is that how we do it? I reread the OP and couldn't find any specific rules. Voting will start day 1 | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
It's always been a bad idea for scum to claim something first. You can't claim DT or getting shot when there's just 1 dt or 1 shot in the game, because you will be faced with counter-claims. So far, there's just one claim of blue. There are two scenarios: a) All REAL blues are asleep and will counter-claim later on. b) He is blue and the three other blue are keeping their mouth shut as they should. IF there's gonna be a counter claim, I assume there will be at least one more person supporting EITHER of them. So, whoever is lying (be it mafia or blacks), they will have to stick out at least TWO people (which can be up to four if we go there), in order to get an election. Would you risk that as scum/3rd party just for the mayor role? No. You don't put 2 people on the line on day one for no reason. And if we figure out who's lying (person with least supporters?), then one of them gets mayor'd, and the rest get medic protected or who knows. The point is, in the end, it's not a smart move for EITHER Black or Red to sacrifice people 1:1 (even if they get blues), because they're also fighting each other. So, unless you get counter-claims for blues, you can 99% sure assume that bum is town. If cops saw this but decided not to counter-claim, then either they have a good reason for it, OR they're being dumb. You seem to think that they are dumb, for some reason. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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