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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 24 2011 04:45 GMT
#481
so, this basically confirms bums blueness, unless i'm misreading something.

I'm going to officially withdraw my candidacy. Vote bum!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 24 2011 04:45 GMT
#482
On March 24 2011 13:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

2 logs.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 24 2011 04:51 GMT
#483
What do Blacks come backs to DT checks?
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
March 24 2011 04:54 GMT
#484
Regardless of whether or not I become mayor:

Kav's opinions and advice: Round 1


Analysis, analysis, analysis. Insane is perhaps the most themed game of themed games, and there are going to be a lot of really weird roles and such. Because of this analysis won't be quite as effective as it usually is, BUT this in NOT an excuse to not do it. I repeat: ANALYSIS IS NECESSARY. NOT OPTIONAL.

Inactives: We are hurt by townies (and blues) going inactive more than ever in this game, because everyone has a role. The stakes are higher, so PLEASE stay active. Not spammy, but active.

Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue.

The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them.

I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool.

One more thing to be very careful with is the confirmed townies. Don't get me wrong, this is a good thing, but only if it's used the right way. There have been countless games where people have followed an innocent townie's advice only to find it wrong. It is important that we remember that your (and all the blue's) views are innocent, but not 100% correct.

There is one good thing that has come out of your claim though: We now have a mouthpiece through which the police force can speak, and someone who wouldn't be a bad medic target...
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 24 2011 04:56 GMT
#485
Alright so here are my thoughts on all of the candidates. I don't think tnkted is expereinced enough with TL meta to be mayor. While I'm leaning town on him I don't think he'd make a good mayor because of his lack of TL experience.

Jackal is a little enigmatic to me. While I feel he's been pretty protown so far, Coag's insta confirm of him has me really suspicious. tbh I'm more suspicious of Coag because only the mafia know 100% who is town.

GMarshal I'm almost sure is town. He's posting very similarly to the last couple of games he's been town in. I hate applying meta so early but just looking back at his games really kinda proves it for me.

Annul is an absolute nono. He has yet to show a really good game of scum hunting and in the last several town games his play has been pretty terrible. He is probably the worst of the candidates.

I <3 Kavdragon but I'm not feeling the same about this game as I did about the last game. I wanna see more posting from him talking about why I should vote him over the other candidates.

Chaoser, Bum, and RoL are all pretty good choices. While I'm not liking RoL's "lemme kill shit" policy, I know that it is affective sometimes. Bum's plan is interesting and it just might work... although the risk is that he's fake claiming and the real blues don't wanna expose themselves. Chaoser is probably our strongest choice right now.

These are just quick thoughts before I go to bed, I'll post something more substantial tomorrow.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 24 2011 04:56 GMT
#486
On March 24 2011 13:51 OriginalName wrote:
What do Blacks come backs to DT checks?

Blacks will show up as black on alignment checks
Reds will show up as reds
Blues as blues
Greens as greens
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 04:57 GMT
#487
how do you "win" the item game?

annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 04:58 GMT
#488
we were originally told that night 0 was in order for the scum to pick the godfather (if i remember right). is there more to night 0 than this?
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 05:00:54
March 24 2011 04:58 GMT
#489
On March 24 2011 13:57 annul wrote:
how do you "win" the item game?


Kill everyone of a different alignment

On March 24 2011 13:58 annul wrote:
we were originally told that night 0 was in order for the scum to pick the godfather (if i remember right). is there more to night 0 than this?

No comment. And stop asking these kinds of questions. I won't tell you specifically what is going on, I just clarify rules in the OP. Trying to prove a point by asking the mod to give away information won't work
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 24 2011 05:08 GMT
#490
Hello everyone!!!
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 24 2011 05:10 GMT
#491
On March 24 2011 14:08 kevconsim wrote:
Hello everyone!!!


hi
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 05:13 GMT
#492
Kavdragon:
Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue.

The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them.

I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool.


There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town.

Of course, this relies on no counterclaims in the next, oh, 12 hours or so i guess.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 24 2011 05:16 GMT
#493
On March 24 2011 14:13 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kavdragon:
Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue.

The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them.

I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool.


There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town.

Of course, this relies on no counterclaims in the next, oh, 12 hours or so i guess.


60+ we have all of Night 0 and most of day 1 for someone to conterclaim. Although to be honest I'm not likely to belive it if its too late after day 1 starts.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 05:21 GMT
#494
On March 24 2011 14:16 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 14:13 iGrok wrote:
Kavdragon:
Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue.

The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them.

I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool.


There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town.

Of course, this relies on no counterclaims in the next, oh, 12 hours or so i guess.


60+ we have all of Night 0 and most of day 1 for someone to conterclaim. Although to be honest I'm not likely to belive it if its too late after day 1 starts.


Oh yeah, I know its theoretically a long time, but if no counter claims happen soon I wouldn't really trust them. Give scum enough time and they'll figure out a good plan
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 24 2011 05:22 GMT
#495
This isn't night then? I'm a little confused.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 24 2011 05:24 GMT
#496
On March 24 2011 14:22 Lanaia wrote:
This isn't night then? I'm a little confused.

This is night. Day1 starts when the 24hr n0 starts iirc
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#497
This is night 0 only for discussion and as far as we know no one has their powers yet it ends at [unparsable timestamp format] tommorow, then day 1 starts, we are given our powers and 48 hours later the person with the most votes becomes the mayor, he chooses who dies that day. I think thats all.
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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 24 2011 05:33 GMT
#498
That's so weird. I'm not used to being allowed to talk at night.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 05:45 GMT
#499
you can talk in all phases unless you are dead
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 24 2011 06:26 GMT
#500
Ok so I decided not to go to sleep and read over the thread now that it's died down a bit. At this point I'm going to vote Chaoser. Why? Because he's got a plan and it seems like a good one. Bum has a plan as well but there's just too many variables in it for me to be completely comfortable with it. For those who don't remember, Chaoser's plan is to
On March 24 2011 12:32 chaoser wrote:
You know what, fuck it, I'll run for mayor too. Reasons why? One reason:

1) I have some sort of vision while others don't really:

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:05 chaoser wrote:
Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game.

1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus

There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining.


If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items.


Bum's plan also intrigues me and if a blue claims and runs I will immediately step down from running. This will be, of course, after I consider it some more to see if there are any glaring flaws in it.

I'm willing to compromise in terms of the voting/not voting for day 1 lynch. I'll go along with the town but also make my own analysis as well. If I believe town to be voting to lynch someone who is 80% not mafia in my eyes I will tell town and take a stand if I have to. Aside from that, I will be a mere civil servant, at the mercy of the people. I don't have flashy pictures or heart swelling music, but I do believe beer should be cold, boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad and freedom? Well, I think that's just a little bit better.


As for his lynch he said
On March 24 2011 13:01 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chaoser seems like a solid candidate. He has felt town to me all game, with solid contributions, but his plan for his lynch seems like it is precicely what a mafia would say; they're willing to go with the town (ie, let the other mafia members make a big fuss about who to kill), while also maintaining his ability to kill anyone he wants (if the mafia members can't convince people). If we elect chaoser, i'll be watching very closely to see who pushes for who to be lynched.


Yeah I realized compromising isn't a good idea at all which is why I wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:
Another reason against not voting day 1 is that it doesn't leave a definite paper trail for town to analysis. With votes we can see where people fell but if it just comes down to you picking to lynch someone then the trail is a bit more iffy.


I will follow town's vote.


I feel comfortable with Chaoser as mayor. The more I thought about it the more I realized that he's the best candidate. Bum's plan is too flimsy, I'm worried about mafia infiltration. RoL hasn't really done anything other than rage for no reason. GMarshal doesn't have a good track record with scum hunting and neither does Annul. Jackal worries me, tnkted is to new, and I just haven't seen Kav post enough to get a solid feeling.

Even if Chaoser loses the election I still think it's a good idea to look into the people in the minigame:
1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus

Coag Slightly suspicious because of his insta confirm on Jackal
Darm Banned lol
Jackal Slightly suspicous because of Coag
annul Pressuring Bum, pretty good points, not playing too shabily
Tackster Hasn't posted?
Lemonwalrus Spamming oneliners, needs to contribute more

With two of the six yet to post it would be irresponsible to start calling people out so I'm gonna watch these six regardless of the election and try and catch the mafia or third party when they slip.
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