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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 22 2011 04:45 GMT
#781
lol ummmm what kinda question is that? no mod confirms here
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 22 2011 04:48 GMT
#782
Ace, is it possible to have 'insane' type powers, with unrevealed side-effects or restrictions?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 22 2011 04:52 GMT
#783
I dont know I just sent out the role PMs blindly without reading anything ^_^


Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2011 05:00 GMT
#784
Loooool
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 22 2011 06:11 GMT
#785
Lol, i was hoping to catch annul since he mentioned he would be role checking during the night as opposed to during the day. I guess if he was a "stalker" or "seeker" then he would prolly do it at night.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 09:52 GMT
#786
I'm gonna go ahead and believe annul here. He's giving me town vibes, not to mention that it doesn't make sense that he'd do something like that being a evil DT (and let's not forget how unlikely a evil DT is). So right now:

Mr. Wiggles - unconfirmed at this time.
GGQ - unconfirmed at this time.
OriginalName - confirmed town.
Kenpachi - dead, will very likely flip red.
annul - DT, most likely miller considering the odds of him being a mafia DT.
bumatlarge - unconfirmed at this time.
kitaman27 - confirmed town.
Keifru - most likely town.
Insanious - most likely vigilante for town. Killed Kenpachi, claims to be able to detect the killer of someone if he guesses right at night.
chaoser - unconfirmed.
darmousseh - confirmed sort of mafia radar, town aligned.
RoL - confirmed town.
GMarshal - unconfirmed at this time.
Eiii - unconfirmed at this time.
CubEdIn - unconfirmed at this time.
Rean - confirmed town.


Gonna go ahead and post roles/role descriptions that are claimed/known by everyone in a bit.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 09:53 GMT
#787
On March 22 2011 18:52 Rean wrote:
I'm gonna go ahead and believe annul here. He's giving me town vibes, not to mention that it doesn't make sense that he'd do something like that being a evil DT (and let's not forget how unlikely a evil DT is). So right now:


With "something like that" being the post reading out "twin brother toy Dante, i'm DT"
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 10:06 GMT
#788
ok I see a lot of talking but no pushing/pulling.

Let me bring this back into focus, again:

People have moved without PoPs in the thread.
If we force EVERYONE to use their PoPs, we might uncover people who already did (and thus, are probably mafia).
This will only work TODAY, and this is really TIME-CONSUMING since we need to wait for Ace to update.
So, if you guys don't do this and let mafia take this away with pointless chatter, then we will have lost our chance.
Also, if we don't figure out who did it, they might also do it tomorrow, even if darmousseh lives, so he won't be able to use his power properly.

THINK, PEOPLE.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 10:16 GMT
#789
This is the list of PoPs in the thread, based on Ace's post:

Mr. Wiggles
GGQ
OriginalName Pull Rean
Kenpachi
annul
bumatlarge
kitaman27
Keifru
Insanious Push annul Pull kitaman27
chaoser Push annul
darmousseh
RoL
GMarshal Pull RebirthofLegend
Eiii - hulk PoPs (will push/pull 2 spaces)
CubEdIn Push GMarshal Pull Kenpachi
Rean Push annul Pull Kenpachi

So as you can see, we have... 10 pushes and 11 pulls to be tested.
All mafia has to do is lurk and distract in this scenario. But if we are able to test at least a bunch of these we will have partial confirmations. I'm 100% sure that someone (one or more people) will not use their PoPs, because it will show that they do not do anything.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 10:54 GMT
#790
darmousseh's ability cancels his pop's btw

almost done with my role analysis post
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 22 2011 10:59 GMT
#791
On March 22 2011 19:54 Rean wrote:
darmousseh's ability cancels his pop's btw

almost done with my role analysis post


You're right, I forgot.

Updated:
Mr. Wiggles
GGQ
OriginalName Pull Rean
Kenpachi
annul
bumatlarge
kitaman27
Keifru
Insanious Push annul Pull kitaman27
chaoser Push annul
darmousseh
RoL
GMarshal Pull RebirthofLegend
Eiii - hulk PoPs (will push/pull 2 spaces)
CubEdIn Push GMarshal Pull Kenpachi
Rean Push annul Pull Kenpachi

So 10 pushes, 9 pulls to go.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 11:43 GMT
#792
Here's basically how i see this game at the moment, and what roles have been confirmed and all.
Note that this is my first mafia game, so they might seem rather newbie opinions, but hey, i tried.

Also, more noob questions: what do "LYLO" and "WIBOM" stand for? Lylo is something to do with the end of the game i think, but not sure.


+ Show Spoiler +

Format:

Name - alignment - what he claims to be - what his powers have done so far


Meapak - dead town - Warp Prism toy, description: + Show Spoiler +
The energetic Warp Prism Toy

A mystical toy encrusted with a warping stone, you have the ability to swap positions instantly with the toy nearest to you as long as they aren't sharing their queue position with anyone else. You can do this once per day and must do so within the first 12 hours of the day before you run out of energy.



Mr. Wiggles - unknown - n.a. - has made alot of posts in favor of town, was supportive of just about everything town has done so far. He's a little bit TO pro-town for my liking, maybe a good target for a DT check?


GGQ - unknown - n.a. - Very actively pro-town day 1, hasn't said a damn thing day 2. Some serious scum vibes from him aswell, maybe he got hot feet from darmousseh's plan? Interested hearing his defense.


OriginalName - town - has been very quiet all game, confirmed townie by darmousseh.


Kenpachi - dead unconfirmed, will flip over at the end of tonight - n.a. - n.a.


annul - unconfirmed - claims DT role and claims to be a miller - has given a role name: Twin Boy Toy Dante, shouted out to him in some sort of secret message before darmousseh's plan went into motion, making it likely he's town. not entirely cleared though.


bumatlarge - unconfirmed - n.a. - against voting initially, pulled Keifru to see his wall power, but also pushed Annul in the same post without any explanation??? He probably did it to fill up a spot so Keifru would skip that row (since details of Keifru's powers weren't known by then), but just pushing like that without explanation isn't the best idea ever. Is also highly in favor of killing annul day 2, maybe he's mafia and he knows annul is a miller DT and he wants to get rid of him?


kitaman27 - town - has been confirmed town, but is extremely aggresive in his play, constantly pushing others to reveal their ability's, pushing them on the defensive, and also gets very aggresive when someone started suspecting him. Honestly, he might've been cleared, but with the way he tries to force others to reveal their roles i'm starting to suspect he might be the Godfather of the mafia team.


Keifru - unconfirmed - claims to be Snorlax Toy - he takes up two spots in the queue, it takes two PoP's to move him. So far everything points to this being true, his alignment is still to be found, but behavior inclines me to believe he's town.


Insanious - unconfirmed - claims to be a hybrid stalker/vigilante - his claimed role can investigate someone at night, and if they get killed, he gets put within two spots of his killer in the queue. Since darmousseh cleared all possible targets outside of Kenpachi, town used their power to pull Kenpachi near Insanious, and he used his vigilante powers to kill him. His story checks out so he's likely to be speaking the truth, but Kenpachi's flip will confirm it.


chaoser - unconfirmed - n.a. - Acts very back and forth day 1, being both pro-town and making some stupid actions pointing him towards being mafia. Day 2 he seems very eager to have annul killed, again, could be that he's mafia and knows that annul is a town DT.


darmousseh - town - some sort of mafia radar - He has a ability to turn himself into a mafia radar. Once he activates this he gives up his PoP's for the day, and if he's moved, the radar shuts down again. He needs atleast two town people near him to activate his special power. The radar confirmed annul to be mafia (might be miller though). He confirmed Originalname/Kitaman/RoL/Rean to be town before his ability shut down by being moved, most likely by mafia interference.


RoL - town - hasn't claimed powers yet but was confirmed by Darmousseh to be town.


GMarshal - unconfirmed - n.a. - Seems pro-town, not very sure about him.


Eiii - unconfirmed - claims to be the Hulk Toy : + Show Spoiler +
I'm the Hulk toy, my PoPs send people TWO spaces ahead or behind instead of just one. I have another queue-manipulating ability that I can only use twice per game, but I'd rather save that for when the shit really hits the fan.
- We should test his powers, i'd put him under some suspicion since his queue manipulating ability could've been what pushed darmousseh (although it'd be plain stupid to claim if you're mafia and know you can stop darmousseh, so consider him town for now). I suggest making him move someone and see what happens to their queue position. Eiii, can you describe roughly what your queue manipulating ability does?


CubEdIn - unconfirmed - no roleclaims, getting some serious town vibes though, but that doesn't confirm anything.


Rean - town - hasn't claimed powers yet but confirmed Darmousseh to be town.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 22 2011 12:18 GMT
#793
LYLO: Lynch Or Lose, essentially the point in the game where if you don't lynch a mafia that day, mafia will win (or at least have a possibility of winning)

A good example of this is when there is 3 town and 2 mafia left alive. If you lynch a town its now 2-2 and mafia win. If you don't lynch, mafia kill a town during the night bringing it to 2-2 and mafia win. Therefore town HAVE to lynch a mafia to stay alive in the game.

WIFOM: Wine In Front Of Me. This page explains it well:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wine_In_Front_Of_Me
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#794
"In Mini 1002: Mafia en Français, DrippingGoofball determined that the French equivalent of WIFOM is LGCCMQLSVDMVEDJCLREHLBADTLIQAOECDL (Le Grand Cru Chassagne-Montrachet Que Le Sommelier Verse Dans Mon Verre Et Dont Je Contemple La Robe Et Hume Le Bouquet Afin De Tuer L'Idiot Qui A Ose Empoisonner Ce Divin Liquide). To the chagrin of the Académie française, it is not clear if this term will catch on with French-speaking scummers."

That's one hell of a a acronym.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 22 2011 14:25 GMT
#795
##Push Annul

RoL was convinced a bit too easily if you ask me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 22 2011 14:30 GMT
#796
Should be: "Vin en devant de moi" VEDDM

Est-il empoisonné? Ou, est-ce-que la verre qui contient la poison est en devant de toi?

Only time will tell.
you gotta dance
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 14:31 GMT
#797
.....the fuck? Don't you think you'd want to, maaaaybe, talk that over before you do things like that, and just maybe give some sort of explanation? I mean, what's your reasoning for doing so other than " don't believe him"?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 22 2011 14:31 GMT
#798
On March 22 2011 23:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Should be: "Vin en devant de moi" VEDDM

Est-il empoisonné? Ou, est-ce-que la verre qui contient la poison est en devant de toi?

Only time will tell.


French scum.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 22 2011 14:36 GMT
#799
On March 22 2011 23:31 Rean wrote:
.....the fuck? Don't you think you'd want to, maaaaybe, talk that over before you do things like that, and just maybe give some sort of explanation? I mean, what's your reasoning for doing so other than " don't believe him"?


Upset?

What other reason would I need other than "don't believe him"?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#800
Maybe wait to see what other people think about it? Maybe use his DT ability to check out someone else?
You're basically ignoring the arguments in favor of him being town (the unlikeliness of him being a mafia DT, the fact that he tried to reveal himself as a DT before being under pressure with a hidden message and the fact that several of the unconfirmed people seem to favor just killing him despite these arguments), and together with the fact that your entire gameplan seems to consist of "pressure everyone to openly reveal their roles, get as much detail of how their power works" really is making me feel like you're the godfather of the entire mafia gang.
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