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On March 22 2011 10:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Don't we have until tomorrow night? It's 48 hour days now.
oh, :p long days. That gives us time i guess. If someone has the power to reactivate my ability that would be amazing, but I doubt anyone has that ability.
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Here's my thoughts on this:
1. it's not necessarily that mafia pushed/pulled people. My ability is to get linked to someone and when they move I move. It's not active atm, but food for thought.
2. Annul should die. I don't care if he's a dt, we should not take that risk. We have enough people confirmed that we don't need to take shots.
I suggest we push annul and someone who hasn't been confirmed into the fire tonight. Also, very important: WE SHOULD MAKE EVERYONE USE THEIR PUSH/PULL TODAY It's easy, if mafia CAN push/pull, at least we can hope they can't do it twice a day. So we force everyone to use push/pull. Even if they don't change anything (like push on someone, see if it worked, pulled someone, see if it worked.) I am volunteering myself for testing as I am not bound to anything as far as I know. Or we could move someone who we already moved (like GM, RoL) and we know they can be moved.
Whoever pushes/pulls with 0 result, means they might have already used their ability.
Thoughts?
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On March 22 2011 10:12 darmousseh wrote:Good question, who did you investigate and what is their role annul?
i investigated (someone) whose role is "twin boy toy, dante."
for what should be obvious reasons i am not going to say who this person is.
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and in fact, i am very disappointed at this person for how this person is playing this ;\
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Rean was moved, so we're ok with moving him.
We can push him up and down till the cows come home. So:
We ask people to push annul (into the fire). We ask people to pull kitaman27 or OriginalName. Or someone else of their choice AS LONG AS TOWN AGREES WITH IT.
If we do this today, we will see if someone already used their pops. Worst case scenario, we have only Annul to kill.
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On March 22 2011 10:37 CubEdIn wrote: Rean was moved, so we're ok with moving him.
We can push him up and down till the cows come home. So:
We ask people to push annul (into the fire). We ask people to pull kitaman27 or OriginalName. Or someone else of their choice AS LONG AS TOWN AGREES WITH IT.
If we do this today, we will see if someone already used their pops. Worst case scenario, we have only Annul to kill. wow, CubEdIn great idea , i didn't even think of that. darmousseh's ability uses PoP's, so maybe the mafia's one does too... well people need to start pulling and pushing people, i would recommend moving people away from the edges just incase...
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It's not just that the abilities can use pops, it's also the fact that mafia could have some sort of ability of using PoPs via PM to mod (and thus, hidden). I mean, there was so much moving around, I doubt it's just one ability. It could be that someone has the ability of hidden PoPs.
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I'm going to wait on pushing annul until I see if chaoser's push moved him. So long as we don't stack pushes/pulls in between updates, we should get an idea if someone's action worked or not. So I repeat, do not stack pushes and pulls with someone until the queue is updated, or else if they only move 1 spot, we have two suspicious people, not just one.
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On March 22 2011 10:32 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 10:12 darmousseh wrote:On March 22 2011 10:07 Eiii wrote: who'd you investigate last night? Good question, who did you investigate and what is their role annul? i investigated (someone) whose role is "twin boy toy, dante." for what should be obvious reasons i am not going to say who this person is.
you can confirm your role as a miller by saying who the person was. You are just hurting town at this point since you are likely to be killed.
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dont be stupid
if i reveal who it is, mafia gets a 2 for 1 tonight.
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oh so wait, if i tell you who it was, i am "CONFIRMED" as a miller? really? its that simple?
maybe you just want to know who to 2 for 1 tonight because my suspicions were correct all along?
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On March 22 2011 10:33 annul wrote: and in fact, i am very disappointed at this person for how this person is playing this ;\ You should know they can only verify that you checked them, they can't verify your alignment. On top of that, maybe they think your arrogant play is too anti town regardless of your alignment.
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On March 22 2011 11:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 10:33 annul wrote: and in fact, i am very disappointed at this person for how this person is playing this ;\ You should know they can only verify that you checked them, they can't verify your alignment. On top of that, maybe they think your arrogant play is too anti town regardless of your alignment. exactly what I was thinking... proving that you are a name DT does not prove you are a miller... it proves that you are a name DT... or in contact with a name DT.
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the only way to be "in contact with a name DT" is if mafia got a name DT, which similarly makes no sense.
i also dont know what arrogant play i made. i got called out and "confirmed" as a red, so naturally i need to fight. i was more than happy sitting back and breadcrumbing and being as inactive as i can be to deflect heat
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On March 22 2011 11:16 annul wrote: the only way to be "in contact with a name DT" is if mafia got a name DT, which similarly makes no sense.
i also dont know what arrogant play i made. i got called out and "confirmed" as a red, so naturally i need to fight. i was more than happy sitting back and breadcrumbing and being as inactive as i can be to deflect heat
There could be some kind of mailman/mason roles that would allow you to speak to others. There could be a role that lets you PM in proximity to others on the queue too.
I don't know what you're talking about with an arrogant play, I thought it was more the game mechanics/skills that pointed you out as red. Either you are a miller, darm's ability didn't work, or you're scum. The only way to find out really is to kill you, sadly, unless there exists an alignment DT, but that still doesn't confirm miller or not.
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as an aside, i seriously fucking hate no-PM games
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i am either a miller OR darmo is lying, yes.
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We can do like 3 things right now...
1) Kill Annul - see if he is miller or mafia 2) Wait till we see if Kenpachi is mafia to see if Darmousseh's power was working properly 3) Just randomly kill someone who isn't confirmed hoping to kill a mafia
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On March 22 2011 11:01 annul wrote: dont be stupid
if i reveal who it is, mafia gets a 2 for 1 tonight.
how do they get a 2 for 1? they can only kill one person a night
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