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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 21:29 GMT
#2421
If I'm wrong well then it will only be the 5th time this game...
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 21:38 GMT
#2422
First of all kev:

On March 14 2011 09:12 kevconsim wrote:
private messages from why to me

Jackal has assured me that you are town. The remaining mafia are almost certainly deconduo and CubedIn. CubedIn today and Deconduo tomorrow.

Wrong

I am going to keep posting about how I think you are mafia in thread so that hopefully the endgame will be me, you, and deconduo. The other possibility is scarier = me, GMarshal, and deconduo. We need to know where GMarshal stands today. I'll PM him but I don't think he responded much to Jackal even. It might be worth going after deconduo today just so Cubed is the definite lynch on the final day.

Wrong and didn't happen

No...but I have said multiple times in thread that I think you are. Therefore mafia will likely expect me to vote for you tomorrow so they'll let me live since you are actually town.

Obvious PM editing here, why do this? Also wrong.

Deconduo is the last scum and we will lynch him tomorrow.

k, except you died.

It doesn't matter at this point. GMarshal is pretty much on board, as long as deconduo is scum we win.


On March 14 2011 09:15 kevconsim wrote:
my private messages with jackal58


You sir are keeping me alive. Don't make me push you. I don't want anybody to start voting for you. Especially our scum team.
That team is -
CubEdin
LD
deconduo.
Dunno which is gf.
Don't get all up in arms about me fosing you. It's keeping you alive too.

I'm really hoping that either you or Why are a vet. If you are please claim so we can get a hit directed towards you.

Dude you are going to be called everything under the sun for the next 2 days.Really, where did this happen?



Don't take it personally. You are the key to town winning. Defend yourself but don't get angry. We have this won. But to win it you need to be the center of attention.
Wrong, never happened

You will not be lynched. Cubed is next up for that. But you are going to be called scum. Cubed is going to be the assumed GF.

Right, except that only Jackal called you scum.

LD is about to go down. Decon has let this happen because he believes I think you are scum. Wrong, in fact I tried to tell Jackal you were town, not the other way around.
Cubed has rolled over in the thread already. Decon has told his scum team that I am convinced Decon is town and that you are scum. LOL He believes this because that's what I told him I believe.

So basically all wrong as well.

Don't take the next 24 hours personally. Don't believe anything I post in the thread. All of my posts from here on out are for scum consumption only.
If you have issues or questions keep them in PMs

Except none of this even happened

If decon or cubed pm you with questions please forward them to me before answering. I have a multitude of lies sitting in their in boxes. Please don't hang me out to dry.


So, assuming these PMs aren't faked you are forgetting the biggest flaw. Jackal is a bad townie. Look at ANY of his games, if someone FoSes him, or calls a post of his scummy he just OMGUSes them and tunnels them for the rest of the game. He doesn't give up until one or the other is killed. Oh, and guess what? The person he tunnels has ALWAYS been town (as far as I can remember, he might have been right once but I'm checking up on it). I thought he had improved after but apparently not, he just changed from tunnelling in the thread to doing it in PMs. Look at this game even, with what happened with gryffindor. That is 100% stereotypical Jackal.

If you are town you are just continuing to do what you've done all game, sheep sheep sheep and not have a single thought for yourself.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 21:43 GMT
#2423
GMarshal, do you have ANY other reason for voting for me other than WIFOM?
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#2424
You are right, my defense of chaoser was a sheep move as well as me being the only guy defending icemac, yep I'm a sheep.

Assume I am sheeping then. Its irrelevant, i've already proven that my judgment is suspect. every single independent decision I've made this game has sucked, I chose to trust the wrong people, I defended and sided with scum on every occasion. I've proven that I have to leave the big guns to analyze while I limit myself to what I'm good at.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#2425
On March 14 2011 22:34 GMarshal wrote:
Alright, decon you know I was leaning towards you not being scum, and then I saw the kill pattern, noticeably the fact that I survived the night.

So let me analyze this from a killer's perspective shall I? Lets assume I'm kevoconism and I am the scum GF, now I'm looking at who is left as a viable target and its

Why
Decon
GMarshal

now as kev I have this wonderful PM from why sitting in my inbox saying that if I survive the night I'm going to hang decon, and I have nothing from GMarshal except suspicions from earlier in the thread. Why in the 9 hells of bator would I choose to hit why, who THINKS I'M TOWN? that kill makes absolutely no sense from that perspective, instead I would hit GMarshal and have the game in the bag... but notice how I the gullible one survived the night

He edited that PM, it could have said something quite different. Why could have changed his mind and he just didn't post that PM. Maybe Cubed told him to kill why. Any number of reasons.


Lets look at it from a deconduo perspective shall we? I am decon the mafia GF and I'm looking at my targets for the night:

Why
Kevconism
GMarshal

Now, I could go after GMarshal who I know to be both gullible AND scummy looking, an easy lynch is I can persuade kev, which should not be a challenge. So why would I kill him?

Kev would be an ok target but then I have to convince GMarshal that why is scum or why that GM is scum and why has said that GM is probably town, now that would be a challenge, considering why is a pretty decent player who might make good arguments against me.

Or I could take out why, who is clearly the best player from those who are still left alive, as insurance I'll even use .5 kp to reverse him first. Then its a simple task of convincing kev that GM is scum because he has defended scum all game long.

I would put you as a MUCH better player than why. Why's play this game has been atrocious, especially if the PMs are legit and he bought into Jackal's idiocy.

That was a mistake, you should have hit kev, I was more than willing to believe why as a scum player, however I didn't post it to avoid him targeting me at night

If I was mafia I would have 100% hit kev the moment I saw Cubed wasn't GF.

For completness sake lets consider it from GMarshal's view point as well. Lets say I am the GF and I'm looking at possible targets for tonight

Why
Decon
kevconism

I could go after why who has already told me that he thinks Decon is the GF but that would be eliminating a very useful ally. I could also take out Decon who is my likely lynchee for tomorrow but that would be moronic, or I could take out kevconism who is a useless player who's vote I'm unsure of. There the logical move would be to eradicate kev and count on why following through with his plan.

So logically the only person who would kill why at this point in the endgame is you deconduo

Which means you are deconduo the Mafia Godfather

GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 21:49 GMT
#2426
You call it WIFOM, i call it logic combined with past behavior. Looking at your posts you never actually really weigh in definitively on anything, your only contribution is the thing about DTs in day one and it proved to be absolutely worthless, I think you played a magnificent game of lurking, staying in the shadows and avoiding being called out for it.

Satisfy my curiosity, what role are you?
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 21:54 GMT
#2427
On March 15 2011 06:44 GMarshal wrote:
You are right, my defense of chaoser was a sheep move as well as me being the only guy defending icemac, yep I'm a sheep.

Assume I am sheeping then. Its irrelevant, i've already proven that my judgment is suspect. every single independent decision I've made this game has sucked, I chose to trust the wrong people, I defended and sided with scum on every occasion. I've proven that I have to leave the big guns to analyze while I limit myself to what I'm good at.


That post, including the sheeping comment, was directed at kev. Sorry if I was ambiguous.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 21:55 GMT
#2428
I like how you don't care who changes their vote as long as someone does, pretty revealing.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 22:04 GMT
#2429
On March 15 2011 06:49 GMarshal wrote:
You call it WIFOM, i call it logic combined with past behavior. Looking at your posts you never actually really weigh in definitively on anything, your only contribution is the thing about DTs in day one and it proved to be absolutely worthless, I think you played a magnificent game of lurking, staying in the shadows and avoiding being called out for it.

Satisfy my curiosity, what role are you?


Well lets see:

Apart from voting LSB over seraph, I've been on EVERY SINGLE MAFIA. And to be fair, LSB was scummy as fuck anyway, who knew he was actually just a terrible townie. You are saying I bussed my entire team?

I have no idea how you think I haven't been definitive. I thought I've been about as definitive as possible. I called out anything I thought was scummy, gave opinions on as much as I could. I have over a hundred relevent posts in the thread so I don't know what lurking is. What has kev done if I lurked?

I'm a townie, thought that was pretty obvious at this point.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 22:11 GMT
#2430
Alright, I was hoping for a blue claim at this point, it would have been pretty revealing. And btw annul was definetly a bus with 3/10 scum on the wagon, as a matter of fact there was no lynch with less than two scum on the wagon as far as I can tell so I have to say that scum had a pretty bussy policy this game. (and hell it might even still pay off)

So yeah I would have no difficulty believing that you bussed, well pretty much anyone, also your "I'm torn" vote with chaoser was pretty interesting, almost as if you knew what he was going to flip and jumped ship ahead of time

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 22:11 GMT
#2431
oh kevconism, do you mind claiming too?
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kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:16 GMT
#2432
im a townie lol im sticking with this vote because its pretty obvious he wants one of us to change our vote so that mafia can win

I have said im townie the whole game
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 14 2011 22:19 GMT
#2433

##Vote kevconism

something is rotten in the state of Denmark
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 22:20 GMT
#2434
On March 15 2011 06:55 GMarshal wrote:
I like how you don't care who changes their vote as long as someone does, pretty revealing.


No, its because I don't know which of you is the mafia...

Kev is mafia, you don't unvote - We lose
You are mafia, kev doesn't unvote - We lose

If whichever one of you is town unvotes, at the very least I can crossvote the mafia. So yeah, I do care which of you changes their votes, I just don't know who it is.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:21 GMT
#2435
im a townie whats rotten?
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:22 GMT
#2436
##unvote
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2011 22:25 GMT
#2437
@ kev

What are the timestamps on the 2 PMs you posted, and can you paste them in full please. To do this, open the PM, click reply and copy/paste the entire text. Do it NOW so you don't have time to edit them, thanks.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:25 GMT
#2438
i claimed and then u voted for me because i said im townie
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:26 GMT
#2439
From: why [ 193 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: End game
Date: 3/13/11 14:19
No...but I have said multiple times in thread that I think you are. Therefore mafia will likely expect me to vote for you tomorrow so they'll let me live since you are actually town.

Deconduo is the last scum and we will lynch him tomorrow.

Original Message From kevconsim:
you think im scum?



Hide nested quote -
Original Message From why:
I've PMed GM and he is basically down with lynching deconduo tomorrow. I expect the last three to be me you and deconduo though, given that I've been pretty adamant about how you are scum.

Also I am here, you were here, GM is here, and deconduo is in Europe asleep. And no night actions are in! Coincidence?


Original Message From kevconsim:
Totally agree with you.
I had a lot of pm's with gmarshal early game and if you write what you want to ask him i will send it to him from me?

That way he might answer it.





Original Message From why:
Jackal has assured me that you are town. The remaining mafia are almost certainly deconduo and CubedIn. CubedIn today and Deconduo tomorrow.

I am going to keep posting about how I think you are mafia in thread so that hopefully the endgame will be me, you, and deconduo. The other possibility is scarier = me, GMarshal, and deconduo. We need to know where GMarshal stands today. I'll PM him but I don't think he responded much to Jackal even. It might be worth going after deconduo today just so Cubed is the definite lynch on the final day.

Any thoughts?
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 14 2011 22:27 GMT
#2440
From: Jackal58 [ 811 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: End game
Date: 3/12/11 12:05
Dude you are going to be called everything under the sun for the next 2 days.
Don't take it personally. You are the key to town winning. Defend yourself but don't get angry. We have this won. But to win it you need to be the center of attention.
You will not be lynched. Cubed is next up for that. But you are going to be called scum. Cubed is going to be the assumed GF.
LD is about to go down. Decon has let this happen because he believes I think you are scum.
Cubed has rolled over in the thread already. Decon has told his scum team that I am convinced Decon is town and that you are scum. He believes this because that's what I told him I believe.

Don't take the next 24 hours personally. Don't believe anything I post in the thread. All of my posts from here on out are for scum consumption only.
If you have issues or questions keep them in PMs

If decon or cubed pm you with questions please forward them to me before answering. I have a multitude of lies sitting in their in boxes. Please don't hang me out to dry.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
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