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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 01 2011 21:11 GMT
#1561
On February 02 2011 05:39 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 05:05 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 02 2011 04:43 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, enough about the BG's. I think that we should give our blues some direction. This idea is coming from BC's thread on town play.

Blues, feel free to take or leave our advice. The discussion is as much for you Blues as it is for Vanilla townies. If people are going to suggest things, be specific. Call people out by name, don't generalize. It's really easy for scum to hid in the crowd of people saying "we should dt check inactives". It's much harder for them to post specific requests for DT/Medic/Vig hits, and when they do, it gives us WAY more information about mafia than general "good" advice.

I'll start:

DT's:

Beneather's alignment will be shown by who dies first, me or him. Do not waste time on him.
Papapanda comes off as very scummy to me, but this could simply be because he's new. I'd highly recommend him for a DT check. (Constantly apologizing for himself, very tentative about his ideas/opinions. Very typical of newer scum players.)

Medics:

Mafia made a play for GMarshal after I called for Medics to protect LunarDestiny. You caught this before, so keep up the work with the wifom. LunarDestiny is still a good heal target. GMarshal is also a good target, in case the mafia make a play for eliminating the census again.

Vig:

My request for a hit on Zerroth still stands. If a DT hit D3, thank you, sorry that he turned out town. Regardless of whether a DT hit him or not, the inactives felt pressure and posted more. I see no reason to stop the pressure.

Vet's:

Speak up, be active. You have the privilege of being able to speak out without worrying for your life. This will allow other blues to come out a contribute as the mafia will be avoiding Vets, and at the very least sets up some good wifom shields.


Don't forget mason as well. He should be blue hunting. DT will probably need to claim and give some results tomorrow. BGs are always good, and try your best to predict a hit (someone who becomes very vocal at a certain point, someone who catches your eye). Unless a vig feels very vulnerable, I think he should save hits from people like zerroth or D3 and wait for a situation where we KNOW someone is red. But of course, pop it if you are in danger. If jackal is a vet I am worried for what the rest of our vets are like.

I also need this Beneather/jackal situation explained. I've gone through their posts, and feel little difference in the motives of both. Further, Ben is a BG and Jackal has claimed vet, while I find it remarkably convenient for him to have, especially when he hasn't acted like a vet this whole game. If you are going to slide jackal the inexperienced card, I don't see why ben doesn't. And we aren't going to be looking at clues so hard after the nemesis thing? Hm...

When you judge someone, spread it into three parts, and keep them separate. Behavior comes first, then the information available and then clues. Don't disregard them, you just need to develop an eye for them, which I obviously haven't yet -_-
If there is no information available about that person, then you can extend the analysis into 2/3 of your opinion.

That sheep pic is cruel, but helpful, as it is likely that nemesis is town and not SK. Bum is 0 for 2!

I'll accept full responsibility for poor veteran play on my part. Yes I'm new. Yes this is the first time I've had a role other than vanilla townie. Do I see where I've made errors? Yes. Will it improve my play in future games? Of course. Can I change anything I've done up to this point? No.

And I have yet to have anybody tell me how a veteran should play. Nor have I seen anything special in the other games I've been in to identify a player as vet. They've all been lynched in the games I've been in.
None claimed flat out to be a vet prior to being lynched. Although I do believe either RoL or LSB claimed to be blue without being specific. And without any result. They were still lynched. Town went on to lose.
So I claim what I am. I have no prior precedent to look at except lynched Vets. That doesn't help town. So I claim what I am. I don't know if my claim prevented my lynch. But I'm still an extra townie with an extra night life.


Alright alright, veteran isn't tough, but I can see where you are coming from. Mafia wins by outnumbering town right? So it controls lynches and hits freely. Town does not lynch scum, then there is a set number of days until mafia wins. Let's forget about SK, and take this game as an example. Mafia have 2kp.

1. OriginalName
2. d3_crescentia - Replaced DoctorHelvetica
3. GMarshal
4. kitaman27
5. ilovejonn
6. bumatlarge
7. Amber[LighT]
8. papapanda
9. deconduo - Replaced Pandain
10. Kenpachi
11. Coagulation
12. Kavdragon
13. tube
14. Jackal58
15. Mr.Zergling
16. zerroth
17. Mr. Wiggles
18. SiNiquity
19. BrownBear
20. Eti307
21. TheAldo
22. LunarDestiny
23. Impervious
24. Barundar - Replaced Nfi
25. Nemesis
26. Meapak_Ziph
27. Divinek
28. CubEdIn
29. darmousseh
30. Beneather
31. RebirthOfLeGenD


31 players, 9 dead, 5 mafia left. That gives us 17 townies left. Let's say 2 people die tomorrow as well so we are at 15. Now if 2 people die every night and we lynch a townie everyday, we have until Day 7 before we lose. You can imagine with the SK as well this day will come sooner. Now we could lynch flawlessly and SK can hit some mafia, but so far that isn't happening for us. We need townies to buy us time. Medics extend this LYLO (lynch or lose) when they successfully protect someone. This job is pretty tough, because they have to predict who will get hit while staying alive themselves, and still participate in the game so as not to draw suspicion. Veterans have a much easier time. They can be as vocal as possible AND SHOULD BE. They try to get hit. when you are hit, you claim it viola we have a townie. Now there are ways of fakeclaiming this, but there are also ways of checking it, like DTs. You getting hit buys us time and keeps you alive to give your town opinion.

In your case, I would have said I was blue, which is the truth. This helps you stay alive, and makes mafia want to hit you if they fear a any of the other roles, and you "do your job". Pretty staright-forward.

I'm willing to give jackal a chance, because at worst he is an inexperienced SK, but most likely he actually is a veteran, and it makes sense after looking through his posts that he is a newer blue player. If I see a reference to Big Ben in the day post, he's screwed, and Im going to murder LSB if jackal is town.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#1562
so umm no night post or what?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:08 GMT
#1563
just in case i die.
heres my FOS list

Nemesis
Impervious
Beneather
LunarDestiny
zerroth
darmousseh
Eti307
Divinek
CubEdIn
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
February 02 2011 02:19 GMT
#1564
Nemesis is dead fyi.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#1565
lol coag. Well done. <3
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#1566
Day 4

[image loading]


Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;

And laughing and singing the masked man ran along
And laughing and singing he shot Kitaman
And laughing and singing he ran along



Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.

There is only so far that I am willing to plunge. There is one place on this god-forsaken island. One place that I refuse to go. It is the caves.
Those lightless caverns. I’ve tried avoiding it. But one night I heard screams, echoing off each other in that dark expanse and making their contorted way into the night.

I made my way into the caves, and saw all that I needed to see. On the edge of the light, ilovejonn’s body sprawled on the floor. A beast hunched over him, an alien form that I had never seen before.

“I’m sorry. I do this for the greater good,” it growled, and then the ground cracked open under it, and it disappeared.



You'd better watch out!

I immediately headed back to the camp in order to find help. I grabbed the first person I saw, Deconduo and asked him to help me remove ilovejohn’s body.

Deconduo didn’t help me. As soon as he realized that I wanted him to go inside, he fled.

He didn’t get two steps before I killed him.

Serves him right.

There may be dogs about

Kitaman27 is dead.
ilovejonn is dead.
deconduo is dead.


Day 4 has begun! Time to lynch! Will the sheeple break out of their pen? We shall see!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 02 2011 02:28 GMT
#1567
Parting is such a sweet sorrow :o

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:35 GMT
#1568
Badass fucking song btw.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:38 GMT
#1569
On February 02 2011 11:19 ilovejonn wrote:
Nemesis is dead fyi.

well aware of that
just because hes dead doesnt make him less likely to be scum.with no flips im saying that you should keep him in mind how he played and who he played when analyzing people.
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
February 02 2011 02:43 GMT
#1570
3 dead = 5 scum
no sk or vig?
With no power, comes no responsibility.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#1571
hey look. no steel shit in the day post.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:45 GMT
#1572
On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post.


probably cause we lynched nemesis ?
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
February 02 2011 02:46 GMT
#1573
what a beast
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 02 2011 02:47 GMT
#1574
On February 02 2011 11:45 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post.


probably cause we lynched nemesis ?

yea probably man.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:47 GMT
#1575
On February 02 2011 11:47 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 11:45 Coagulation wrote:
On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post.


probably cause we lynched nemesis ?

yea probably man.



high five
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:48 GMT
#1576
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;

And laughing and singing the masked man ran along
And laughing and singing he shot Kitaman
And laughing and singing he ran along


looks like a Vigi or SK Kill.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 02 2011 02:49 GMT
#1577
We've been played so far. Nemesis was apparently not Mafia, or SK.

Number of Mafia remains: 5.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 02 2011 02:50 GMT
#1578

“I’m sorry. I do this for the greater good,” it growled, and then the ground cracked open under it, and it disappeared.


actually ilovejonn hit looks like a vigi hit maybe.

“I’m sorry
greater good"

sounds town aligned..
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 02:51 GMT
#1579
On February 02 2011 11:49 Kavdragon wrote:
We've been played so far. Nemesis was apparently not Mafia, or SK.

Number of Mafia remains: 5.



WTF is going on?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 02:52 GMT
#1580
If a vig hit someone they should claim otherwise they will probably get analyzed for clues.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
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