EPTOn November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote:
As much as I think Coagulation is scummy, he does have a point...
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Misder
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As much as I think Coagulation is scummy, he does have a point... | ||
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Coagulation
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im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie im saying he had a campaign of bullshit. | ||
infinitestory
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On November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote: oh wow | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote: im not saying doch is red im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie im saying he had a campaign of bullshit. There were those that spoke up before the election about scenarios and situations that would cause DrH to be unable to confirm his alignment, but the overwhelming opinion of "DrH roleclaimed, which makes him seem town" drowned it out politicians leave things out of their campaigns all the time *sigh* | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Why is no one pointing their finger at Aeres? Did you not read the night post? A bodyguard died (Annul). Now according to LSB/Artanis, there's only one bodyguard. Maybe he's lying but if he is, we're still operating under the assumption that DCL softclaimed bodyguard. So that makes 3 in total. Aeres's claim never made sense to me anyway, and the scumtells that he dropped (oh hey I'm assuming there's two bodyguards because of DCL's softclaim.. But what if DCL isn't a bodyguard? Who's the other one?). It almost looked as if Aeres was trying to gain our trust, make us lose trust in DCL and weed out any other bodyguards that may have tried to claim. | ||
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Lexpar
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote: im not saying doch is red im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie im saying he had a campaign of bullshit. i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:28 youngminii wrote: Okay I don't care what's going on right now since it doesn't seem to be anything of great substance. Why is no one pointing their finger at Aeres? Did you not read the night post? A bodyguard died (Annul). Now according to LSB/Artanis, there's only one bodyguard. Maybe he's lying but if he is, we're still operating under the assumption that DCL softclaimed bodyguard. So that makes 3 in total. Aeres's claim never made sense to me anyway, and the scumtells that he dropped (oh hey I'm assuming there's two bodyguards because of DCL's softclaim.. But what if DCL isn't a bodyguard? Who's the other one?). It almost looked as if Aeres was trying to gain our trust, make us lose trust in DCL and weed out any other bodyguards that may have tried to claim. I think what really needs to happen is 666 needs to come forward and tell us what is going on. We are only speculating that he softclaimed bodyguard, but I'm not completely sure that's the case. It could just be something related. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote: i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections. so wait.. your not a god??? | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
watch him point out that he's >10 gods | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
Parts of what i said were true, i could be a god, or a cat, or the most amazing person on earth. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:25 Coagulation wrote: DOCH is not a shitty player there is no fucking way he got blindsided by something as simple as a ROLEBLOCK. I have a 100% way to confirm myself to another player through my night action if it goes through, this is still the case. I was very aware of the possibility of a roleblock and didn't bring it up because I wanted to soak them up if the mafia decided I would be the prime candidate for a roleblock. I didn't want to bring that up initially because I didn't want to give the mafia that information but now that you're grilling me on it I suppose I should. I admitted this earlier actually, read the last few pages. | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I have a 100% way to confirm myself to another player through my night action if it goes through, this is still the case. that's not really 100% at all if you're roleblocked, it's more like 0% | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
-if my poke goes through, it confirms my identity to the player that receives it the player that receives a poke can lie and say "they did not receive a poke" -it is a night action, this was clear as soon as I claimed my role, and it is obvious that it is subject to things like commuter, bus driver, roleblocker, w/e -I anticipated the fact that I would be a prime candidate for a roleblocker, soaking up roleblocks on my poke, freeing up other roles that are potentially much more powerful to act -once the conversation began about my possible insanity and the possibility of any roles insanity (confirmed even further by orgoloves death) i think the idea of 100% confirmation pretty much fell through the cracks and it isn't something I held onto. It's possible that the whole poke is a lie, that it never goes through, and that the role is designed to make me think I can confirm myself to others when nothing actually happens -I acknowledged throughout my campaign multiple scenarios in which my role could be compromised by different scenarios involving various amounts of insanity | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On November 01 2010 10:40 infinitestory wrote: that's not really 100% at all if you're roleblocked, it's more like 0% re read the sentence | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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NB starts off with this On October 29 2010 07:27 NB wrote: no rule list, no ratio town/mafia... no NOTHING,... THIS IS INSANE >.< btw, for the record: Dr.H has never been a towny b4 in the history of mafia xD... Not really an accusation but it doesn't exactly make me look good... On October 29 2010 08:48 NB wrote: 2+1 kp? that means they have 3 or 2 and 1 special? @_@ Fair question. Mafia would know the answer to this and would have no reason to ask unless they wanted to look town by asking (it's kind of an obvious answer so I wouldn't discount that possibility) On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote: my opinion on who should get to be major: if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day. Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3.... Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one. None of what you said in this post makes sense. This is a post designed to goad town into killing the mayor. However it seems this entire post is based on several gross misunderstandings of the rules of the game. On October 29 2010 09:50 NB wrote: im confused... so bodyguard(s) is a role? T_T (a mafia should read this post and assume that im not a bodyguard and they wont kill me :3) The second part of this post is dumb. But he is operating on the assumption that bodyguards are predetermined so it kinda makes sense. On October 29 2010 09:52 NB wrote: also: can a bodyguard be a mayor? and what if it happen? @GM: also please clarify what you mean earlier about mafia has 2+1 KP? whats the meaning of +1 More questions for the mod On October 29 2010 10:10 NB wrote: please explain more on this, im REALLY confused... i wana be mayor but i cant be a role without understanding it first >.< more questions. On October 29 2010 10:19 NB wrote: i assume all the selection method are done by GM right?... is there a wiki thread about the mayor role that i can read ? still questions On October 30 2010 07:17 NB wrote: people are moving too fast, im having a hard time to catch up your conversation T_T Worthless complaint. Nobody cares. On October 30 2010 08:58 NB wrote: so far we have 3 people who most likely to be mayor: Pandain, fishball, Dr.h Panda: i think he would be the most reasonable choice since his first election post looks really clean o.O or as Dr.H said: "transparent" Fishy: i dont know about this guy... he claimed that he has some sort of mason going on... and i dont trust any group of towny... there is always important information in there being shared and there always could be a spy.... really fishy Dr.H: lots of people voting for him since he has some great posts on what he would do once he become a mayor. Let me tell you: He has never been a towny b4 in the history of mafia => he is a Veteran mafia and a shitty towny (no offends). Those people who did bandwagon and vote for him could easily be a group of mafia just voting for their leader... Dr.H will be my Last choice what so ever. for now, i will keep my vote on my self and consider to change it on to the most reasonable person in the end! First really scummy post. You don't trust any group of towny? Why? mafia would have good reason to fear a well run circle. "has never been a towny b4 in the history of mafia" not even a point at all. So ignoring that you call me a veteran mafia and shitty towny. How am I a shitty towny, if, according to you I have never been towny? "Those people who did bandwagon him could be mafia." no shit that is a statement that would apply to any candidate in the lead. And because of all of these moot points I'm his last choice. Ok. On October 30 2010 09:18 NB wrote: @DR.h: dont get me wrong, im still reading the thread to catch up but that post was my current summary of my thought on the current situation @_@... i have yet decided to vote on anybody so if you can convince me that you are more worthy than the other, i will vote for you :D... again, no offends and please feel free to correct me  ...Doesn't defend a single one of his points here (when I pointed out the issues in his posts saying essentially the same thing I'm saying now. Basically this entire post is meaningless it offers no new information. It was your summary of your thought? really? Versus a summary of someone elses thoughts I guess. On October 30 2010 09:52 NB wrote: i did not make that post while im thinking about the situation. i thought about it first and fishy + Dr.H are the 2 people that i cant trust. For pandain: he is the "left over" so i cant touch him since there is nothing clear against him. I should have analyze mr.fish and Dr.H b4 mentioning panda but what ever.... As you see im still voting for myself but anyone above so dont take that post as im accusing anybody You don't really make any points here. Your first sentence is nonsense I don't even know what it means. You claim me and fishball can't be trusted and provide no reasoning. You then give soft support for Pandain with out really providing good reasoning other than "he isn't dr.h or fishball" On October 30 2010 09:56 NB wrote: also about the pandain bandwagon: i have no clue what happen back then, i was having sc2 practice at that time so i didnt follow the thread AT ALL. im still reading backward atm T_T... My assumption is even though there was a bandwagon for pandain. The early bandwagon should not be weighted much as the later ones since people obviously have no clue whats going on and randomly vote. I will keep my eyes on the voting process from now till night1... i think keep track on the voting thread is much more usefull than this thread since there is no mind fuck going on around there Excuse for doing/knowing nothing. The part about early bandwagon being less useful is very true. On October 30 2010 10:33 NB wrote: question: arent we supposed to lynch someone at day1 or we can skip?.... we discuss a lot about election but no lynching which make me worried since this could be a trick of mafia to reduced our discussion time on lynching people  rule question On October 30 2010 10:54 NB wrote: while obama Dr.h and Mc.cain panda are debating.... fishy hillary is standing out and watch :> worthless On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote: so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 Why would we protect you? Are you softclaiming an important role to draw medics? How can the mayor protect somebody? This post is nonsense. On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote: are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched? @DrH: where is the love bro <3  .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)Why would Glasse imply he is mafia. Worthless appeal to emotion on me. On October 30 2010 13:05 NB wrote: i think you miss understood the bodyguard mechanic... mayor cant be a bodyguard Clarification. On October 30 2010 13:42 NB wrote: This game is freaking anoying to play compare to haunted mafia which has double the number of players... Reason? So many people wana become mayor for their own goods while the other people try to fuck the game over.... everyone need to drink a chill pill and review the picture from the beginning... where ever we are heading at, i see we are being split into multiple small groups and fight each other... They only has 9 mafia so calm down!!! >so many people wana become mayor for their own goods while the other people try to fuck the game over What do you mean for their own goods? You were interested in running yourself you said earlier. Who are "other people"? As far as asking everybody to calm down. This isn't necessarily a town or a scum tell, both factions could have reasons to do so. On October 31 2010 07:08 NB wrote: you put in that list those people who you had personal conflict with and has nothing to do with the whole town. Typical Mafia action type. Since you most likely gona be mayor, it would said no more but the way you play the role is mostly "for your own goods" and i have to admitt that i dont like it. Its either gona be just like last game where you are mafia and accuse me for having mafia action or you are planing to kill 5 people base on the fact that you DONT LIKE them. oh well What do you mean again by "for your own goods"? On October 31 2010 07:22 NB wrote: my suspect list: people who voted for fishball: youngminii orgolove Fishball people who bandwagon to you: Veldril CubEdIn Amber[LighT] voting for pandain: Nemesis Coagulation and lastly: Dr.H and pandain. The fact that you, fishball and pandain are mafia or at least 1 of you HAS TO BE mafia is too obvious. there is no way mafia would let all the mayor candidates are town, at least 1 of them has to be mafia. At i said earlier when i first understand about mayor role: mayor candidates are most likely be killed. The fact that the amount of influence you 3 have on people are just huge and mafia either gona try to take control of that power or send spy into your groups. This is clearly why i dont want to vote for any of you since im quite lack of communication atm. My only way to get a clear information about what is going on in this game is base on the voting thread since there are too much mind fuck in this thread. There are clearly groups of players who are communicating with each others and since im not belonging to any of those groups, i would like to stay out, take my time and consider stuff instead of posting stupidly and back stab myself later. The above list is not final! i do have more supspect but the main problem is i have no clue who i should NOT suspect.! what is your suspect list? Is it people who voted for fishball, who bandwagoned to me, or who voted for pandain? That doesn't really say anything ;o >There is no way mafia would let all the mayor candidates are town, at least 1 of them has to be mafia I brought up this possibility before. Mayor is underpowered in this game compared to previous games and there are a few reasons mafia might not have a mayoral run. When I first brought this up somebody else immediately attacked me for it, I don't remember who but I think it was infinitestory. I'll confirm this. You don't want to do any analysis based on the thread, just votes. This is an excuse for not posting much or a "well i dont have to explain what im doing because this whole thread is a mindfuck". It isn't even clear who you suspected in this post. On October 31 2010 08:41 NB wrote: i asked the GM... he said mayor get to lynch 1 person day1, from day2 on its voting fair clarification On October 31 2010 08:46 NB wrote: check this out.... it seems like 1 mafia has been spotted :D Good to bring this to our attention. On October 31 2010 09:27 NB wrote: Masq, please explain your action.... and how you guys could be so active at this game while day9 is casting? :< useless post On October 31 2010 10:13 NB wrote: modkill mafia, FUCK YEAH xD useless On October 31 2010 10:18 NB wrote: what if they have 2 people with a same role...... which means Dr.H could be mafia?.... fair proposition On October 31 2010 10:23 NB wrote: ok, lets discuss our night action, who will most likely being killed by mafia? "tell us what you're gonna do medics" On October 31 2010 14:52 NB wrote: im confused.... so what is dr.H role again? i missed that post some where? Yeah you missed a huge amount of pages of discussion about it. On November 01 2010 05:20 NB wrote: guys, i might be afk for the next 24 hours due to homeworks... just throwing it out there for those of you who like to know identical excuse for inactivity that immediately follows the excuse of another player before him On November 01 2010 08:11 NB wrote: wow, mafia is hitting on Veteran players @_@ yep. On November 01 2010 08:42 NB wrote: or you could be the god father pretending to be a nurse.... You never clarified what you meant by this. What does being a nurse have to do with it? What?' NB's posts fall into that awful grey area that I hate between really bad townie or mafia. I have a hard time telling. Considering his constant questions to the mod, complete and gross misunderstanding of what is going on in the thread, I'm perhaps leaning toward "bad townie". Mafia would be more controlling of what he posts but then again they could have an advantage from him playing the way he is so this is a bit of a WIFOM. His posting is pretty consistent with his micro mafia game in which he played very poorly and always seemed confused but was indeed town aligned. His posting behavior is characterized by: poor understanding of the rules arguments/points that he won't support and then later makes excuses for not supporting spam erratic posting/nonsensical arguments NB is a player that must be closely monitored. It is very easy to see how these posts could be scummy but he could very well just be a bad towny (and his past experience supports this possibility) | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
I read it fine the first time. You say this is still the case, and it is. But that is NOT what you claimed. On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia. I'm now worried that you duped us in order to get into the mayor position. | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
not sure how it helps though | ||
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