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On October 30 2010 12:08 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:05 Fishball wrote:
To be honest, I do think all this debating is getting quite stupid and going in circles.
Most of my replies have been mentioned before and it's just repeat and repeat.
You never really answered this for me sufficently. Can you? Show nested quote +Here's the thing, I don't see why you have to be mayor for this circle if you have medic protection. I've already said I think the circle is a very good thing to have and we should use it to our advantage, but focusing around that will be very hard since there's a chance there might not be any mafia at all! What, are we going to check all 6 people? That's going to take way too long. I'm just confused about how you would go about that, if you could clarify.
It is possible that I've missed questions directed to me among all these posts. I was just saying that in general.
Anyways, the medic/mayor part I've answered before; In fact, multiple times. Are you seriously questioning this again?
As for the circle itself, since your brought it up now, I can see how you or others would see it this way. I never intended to have the Town to revolve around the circle and the circle alone. Everyone should be aware of the circle, but not focus on it. Anything that could be advantageous to the town should be given attention to.
If I'm Mayor, my goals are simple with the circle.
- Try to weed out any Mafia from within, if any. If there isn't any, its actually a good thing.
- Figure out what roles we have in the circle, discuss with them, and decide what to do with their actions if any.
- Share as much suitable information I can with the rest of the Town.
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On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! wait, WHAT? You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!
this sounds legit.
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On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!
First Hillary, now dish.
You're really pushing it.
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On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!
are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched?
@DrH: where is the love bro <3  .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)
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Wrong quote ;/
Meant to quote NB.
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On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! wait, WHAT? You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!
I remain confused
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 12:26 Fishball wrote:
Wrong quote ;/
Meant to quote NB.
Good, i was like wat?
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched? @DrH: where is the love bro <3 .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)
Uh not really, didn't really think about that. Just trying to be a good politician and say as much bullshit as i can to get more votes :3
I must say though, i am the voice god, that is why he wouldnt be able to kill me. You can't kill a voice, only mute!
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 12:24 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! wait, WHAT? You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me! this sounds legit.
You heard the man! I promise that i will take every single gun shot from my town ppls! I can't die anyway!
Glasse 2010!
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god may not be able to kill you but the mods can!
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My platform or why I'm running for mayor
Simply,I have a role which can do two things: confirm itself to another player at night and help to stop the spread of murrayitis. The first ability will confirm I am who I say I am to the town, if used correctly, and the second will limit the mafia from using the plague to achieve their win condition. I will not allow poor bandwagons and mafia manipulation to influence my decisions and I offer coordination powers that are uncorruptable.
So why is it important that you're mayor?
I can't coordinate blues and plague doctors if I'm dead. It's also very beneficial to the town to have a mayor that can confirm himself as blue, doubly so if he can be inducted into a town circle. After I am confirmed to be not mafia and am immune to night kills, by being inducted into the circle I can do two things:
1. coordinate blues in the circle further and use myself as a mouthpiece for their communication in the thread.
2. keep an eye on suspicious activity within the circle and relay this information to the town.
If I'm not inducted into the circle, I can still easily coordinate doctor action within the thread itself.
How can I be sure you are town?
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous.
Let's say I am mafia.
I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion.
I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off.
I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill.
An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote.
In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake.
So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.
Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for:
extra vote
immunity to vigs
and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor:
guaranteed DT visit
immense pressure/scrutiny from town
it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate.
I'm not a good neighbor. I can not be confirmed by Artanis to be town aligned. However it's as simple as this:
1. I can show my power to the town that is consistent with the role I claimed
2. The nature of the role itself is one that is expressly anti-mafia which can also be demonstrated.
Ok. What do you offer aside from your role? I don't like the idea of someone campaigning on their role alone.
Independence. A lot of mayors talk about how they're "with the town" and "they'll act for the town" and things like this. This is the opposite of what the mayor should do. With a mayor who is confirmed to be town aligned, acting independently is important to avoid the prevalence of mafia bandwagons.
Mafia have the full voting power of their membership. If they are able to manipulate the mayor as well, they can add an additional 2 votes to their poor bandwagon. Having a mayor who doesn't take things at face value and get manipulated by mafia bandwagons is very important.
2 people have already criticized my scumhunting as being bad (even though I've never been townie before so they can't really base it on anything) but I can tell you it isn't. I've been mafia every single game I've been in and I know how the play. I've been a scum mayor before and I know how they play and what they do. I know what gets under the mafias skin.
I have a plan for going about scumhunting and it isn't always obvious. But it's something I'm doing constantly and when I feel I'm ready to lay down the hammer of justice, I will. And I will always provide the utmost amount of reason and logic to everything I do. None of my actions will go unexplained, at the end of the day.
So that's why I'm running and that's why I feel you should vote for me. Choose wisely town :3
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if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic
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On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched? @DrH: where is the love bro <3 .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)
why would he imply that? that's pretty dumb.
You could not post like scum for starters
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I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because
1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)
Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.
Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions.
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Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
Yes. If a doctor visits a player to cure him from the plague and another person visits him on the same night, however, that player will not get infected.
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On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic
What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well!
On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can!
We'll see about that!
Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010!
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does this mean that _necessarily_ ALL players who infect with murrayitis will resolve their night roles before all other players who do not?
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On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well! Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can! We'll see about that! Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010!
My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can
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On October 30 2010 12:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well! On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can! We'll see about that! Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010! My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can
What if i am invincible due to bodyguards?
DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
I could also be an invincible body guard, who protect his own bodyguards.
Think about it, its so insane it could be true!
Glasse for mayor!
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On October 30 2010 12:58 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well! On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can! We'll see about that! Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010! My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can What if i am invincible due to bodyguards? DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I could also be an invincible body guard, who protect his own bodyguards. Think about it, its so insane it could be true! Glasse for mayor!
i think you miss understood the bodyguard mechanic... mayor cant be a bodyguard
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On October 30 2010 12:58 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 12:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well! On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can! We'll see about that! Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010! My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can What if i am invincible due to bodyguards? DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I could also be an invincible body guard, who protect his own bodyguards. Think about it, its so insane it could be true! Glasse for mayor!
I honestly do not think no matter what, Artanis would not put such an imbalanced role. Either there's a big catch you aren't telling us, or you're just talking out of your ass.
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